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ANNOUNCE: OpenSSL 0.9.6 released
by Richard Levitte 25 Sep '00

25 Sep '00

OpenSSL version 0.9.6 released =============================== OpenSSL - The Open Source toolkit for SSL/TLS http://www.openssl.org/ The OpenSSL project team is pleased to announce the release of version 0.9.6 of our open source toolkit for SSL/TLS. This new OpenSSL version is a major release and incorporates at least 91 changes and bugfixes to the toolkit (for a complete list see http://www.openssl.org/source/exp/CHANGES) The most significant changes are: o Some documentation for BIO and SSL libraries. o Enhanced chain verification using key identifiers. o New sign and verify options to 'dgst' application. o Support for DER and PEM encoded messages in 'smime' application. o New 'rsautl' application, low level RSA utility. o MD4 now included. o Bugfix for SSL rollback padding check. o Support for external crypto devices [1]. o Enhanced EVP interface. We consider OpenSSL 0.9.6 to be the best version of OpenSSL available and we strongly recommend that users of older versions, especially of old SSLeay versions, upgrade as soon as possible. OpenSSL 0.9.6 is available for download via HTTP and FTP from the following master locations (you can find the various FTP mirrors under http://www.openssl.org/source/mirror.html) o http://www.openssl.org/source/ o ftp://ftp.openssl.org/source/ [1] OpenSSL comes in the form of two distributions this time. The reasons for this is that we want to deploy the external crypto device support but don't want to have it part of the "normal" distribution just yet. The distribution containing the external crypto device support is popularly called "engine", and is considered experimental. It's been fairly well tested on Unix and flavors thereof. If run on a system with no external crypto device, it will work just like the "normal" distribution. The distribution file names are: o openssl-0.9.6.tar.gz [normal] o openssl-engine-0.9.6.tar.gz [engine] Yours, The OpenSSL Project Team... Mark J. Cox Richard Levitte Andy Polyakov Ralf S. Engelschall Bodo Möller Holger Reif Dr. Stephen Henson Ulf Möller Geoff Thorpe Ben Laurie -- Richard Levitte levitte(a)openssl.org OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org/~levitte/ Software Engineer, Celo Communications: http://www.celocom.com/

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CDR: hello
by William H. Geiger III 25 Sep '00

25 Sep '00

Just a script test please ignore. -- --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html E-Secure: http://www.openpgp.net/esecure.html ---------------------------------------------------------------

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CDR: treaty to fight cybercrime (zdnet)
by jeradonah 25 Sep '00

25 Sep '00

http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2631389,00.html Nations struggling to fight cybercrime High-tech industry groups and privacy advocates are considering an international treaty on cybercrime. But, can we all agree on one plan? By Juliana Gruenwald, Inter@ctive Week September 25, 2000 3:49 AM PT European and U.S. officials are moving toward a final draft of the world's first international treaty on cybercrime, a broad effort that high-tech industry groups and privacy advocates fear could intrude on personal privacy and hamper e-commerce. The proposal, which has been in the drafting stage for nearly three years, calls on countries to pass uniform laws that would, among other things, ban hacking devices and require countries to empower their law enforcement officers to conduct computer and network searches and seizures. Though slow to react to the proposal, some U.S. industry groups are now scrambling to voice their objections as the Council of Europe, working with the U.S. and other governments, last week held a new round of talks on the treaty. The convention is "in part trying to harmonize what may be more appropriately left to individual" countries, said Jeffrey Pryce, a Washington Internet and e-commerce lawyer. Some also expressed concern that the Department of Justice, which is playing a leading role for the U.S., may be seeking powers through the treaty that it could not get through Congress. "When the U.S. government cannot get a controversial policy adopted domestically, they pressure an international group to adopt it, and then bring it back to the U.S. as an international treaty - which obliges Congress to enact it," wrote David Banisar, a senior fellow at the Electronic Privacy Information Center, in a commentary on the draft treaty for Web site SecurityFocus.com. Officially, the convention is a product of the council, a 41-member organization that develops agreements to standardize social and legal practices across Eastern and Western Europe. But officials from Canada, Japan, South Africa and the U.S. have been participating in the negotiations. And the council said it will invite other countries to sign the final pact, which it hopes to complete in December. "As computer crimes are often international in their nature, national measures need to be supplemented by international cooperation," the council said in releasing its first public draft of the convention in April. The council may release a second public draft of the convention, perhaps as soon as this week. The devil is in the details The council began its work on the convention in April 1997, after determining that a 1995 paper recommending that countries adopt laws covering computer-related crime did not go far enough, and that a legally binding agreement was needed. The draft calls on signatories to pass legislation against illegally accessing a computer, intercepting computer data or interfering with computer systems. It also would ban the sale, purchase, import and distribution of devices used for hacking, and requires passage of laws against computer-related fraud or forgery and child pornography. Signatories also would be required to provide law enforcement authorities with the ability to conduct computer searches and seize computer data. In addition, the proposed treaty would require those with access to or knowledge of computer data sought by authorities to provide "all necessary information, as is reasonable," for authorities to obtain the data. "These computer-specific investigative measures will also imply cooperation by telecom operators and Internet service providers, whose assistance is vital to identify computer criminals and secure evidence of their misdeeds," the council said in releasing the public draft. One section deals with the interception of data through networks, but the details were not included in the April text. The section was one of the areas being discussed by the drafting committee last week, according to a U.S. official, who said the U.S. has been pushing for a more updated proposal to be released publicly. The final sections of the convention deal with improving cooperation. The draft requires signatories to "cooperate with each other . . . to the widest extent possible." It also calls for cooperation in the extradition of suspects, and outlines procedures for law enforcement authorities to assist one another. "What we're trying to do is establish expedited forms of communications . . . not get rid of the checks" and balances, said Jennifer Martin, a trial lawyer at the DOJ's computer crimes and intellectual property section, which is taking the lead for the Clinton administration on the issue. Concerns and questions Most agree that cybercrime cannot be viewed as a national problem alone. But privacy advocates, information security professionals and others worry about the council's approach. Gus Hosein, deputy director at Privacy International in London, said one of his biggest concerns is that in harmonizing cybercrime laws, those laws that restrict law enforcement powers the least may prevail. For example, Hosein pointed to Britain's Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, a measure that grants law enforcement officials broad powers to demand access to electronic data. He questioned whether the treaty could be used by U.K. officials to obtain information about a British suspect outside Britain using powers granted by the U.K. law. Computer security professionals worry that the prohibitions on devices used for hacking could prevent the legitimate use of such technology and software to test computer security products. "Our biggest concern is that people don't understand the technology . . . [that] you have to use the same technology to do both legitimate and illegitimate acts," said Lisa Norton, a Washington lawyer who represents Internet Security Systems. Other concerns have been raised about the data storage requirements. Internet service providers worry that they may not have the capacity to store reams of data, and if forced to, they could open themselves up to liability from those who own the data. "The intentions behind the treaty are valid, but as the first draft came out, it seemed to raise more problems than it would cure," said Jason Mahler, vice president and general council at the Computer and Communications Industry Association. DOJ and council officials said much of the concern over the draft stems from a misunderstanding of the treaty's intent and a need for clarifications in the text. For example, they said, security testing would not be banned, because prosecutors must show there was intent to commit an illegal act. Peter Csonka, deputy head of the council's economic crime division, said there needs to be a better explanation of the language banning the use of such devices "without right." When asked about privacy concerns with the treaty, Csonka said: "These concerns may be legitimate, but they could be raised in relation to any international treaty. Harmonization of laws is necessary to avoid a legal jungle on the Net." --- ------------------------------------------------ krys, you live on in our memories your life's promise merged with our own dreams but when we heard you died we cried no one could answer the question, "why?" -- jeradonah, Oct 30 '99 HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com

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CDR: censorship $
by A. Melon 25 Sep '00

25 Sep '00

Friday September 22 05:15 PM EDT COPA panel wants billions more for cops By Ben Charny, ZDNet News Also on the wish list: government-backed porn-filter testing, education programs and immunity for porn sites that follow the rules. Spending billions more dollars for law enforcement and creating a porn-filter testing group lead the list of likely recommendations to Congress from a government-appointed commission charged with making the Web child-safe. Members of the commission created by the Childrens Online Privacy Act (COPA) are also expected to recommend that porn Web sites following industry-imposed guidelines be immune from criminal prosecution if a child gets access to smut. The COPA commission met this week in Washington, D.C., to begin writing its long-awaited report to Congress. It will meet once more in October to vote on the report before presenting it to lawmakers. Commission member Robert Flores, vice president of the National Law Center For Children and Families, said a visit to GetNetWise.org helped convince him that an independent body to review Web filtering software is necessary. "If you go to (that site), youll see a large number of technologies that are available. Some make a number of claims," he said. "But, how do you distinguish advertising claims vs. documented claims?" More review Filters are being reviewed, but by private groups such as Peacefire, which is a self-proclaimed advocate of Internet free speech. Child advocate Enough is Enough in Santa Ana, Calif., tried to create its own review boards, but it proved too expensive. "It has been something weve wanted to do for years," said Enough is Enough Chief Operating Officer Monique Nelson, who testified before the commission two months ago in San Jose, Calif. While a dollar figure has not been set, the commission is expected to ask Congress to dedicate billions of dollars more to law enforcement. Flores said billions are needed just so some law enforcement agencies can catch up to the Web stalkers, which some surveys suggest send unsolicited messages to 20 percent of all kids online. He estimated that the current annual budget for federal cybercrime is less than $200 million. It would take a yearly infusion of $1 billion to $1.5 billion for the next four or five years "just to get us moving," he said. Incentives sought One of the other recommendations gaining consensus is to provide incentives, such as immunity from criminal prosecution, for porn sites following industry standards on child-proofing. "If you try your best and do everything you can, then you should be immune from prosecution," Flores said. Commission Chairman Donald Telage, of Network Solutions Inc., said the commission is also likely to recommend an intensive education program, for parents, about the dangers lurking on the Internet. The COPA commission isnt just getting a report ready for Congress. It is fighting for its very future. Congress created the commission, but failed to fund it. The commission sometimes opens up meetings with pleas for donations. Many of the commissioners are funding their own trips across the country to different hearings. And then there is the infighting between commissioners themselves, making the fact that they agree upon any issues something of a new thing for the group. "Consensus, this group?" said Nancy Willard, director of Responsible Netizen, a program administered by the Center for Advanced Technology in Education.

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CDR: Re: Re: New email could confound law enforcement
by Roy Silvernail 25 Sep '00

25 Sep '00

>To clarify: I have done business as "disappearing inc", and I am >the owner of the domain name "disappearing-inc.com", which I have >not yet used. > >This pisses me off.... now they'll probably try to evict me as >a cybersquatter. I'd think that so long as your registration predates their incorporation, they'd have no case for cybersquatting. (but IANAL, so I could be mistaken) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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DCSB: Birthday Cake and Champagne -- DCSB's 5th Anniversary
by R. A. Hettinga 25 Sep '00

25 Sep '00

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Digital Commerce Society of Boston Presents well, The Digital Commerce Society of Boston, actually... "5 Years of Digital Commerce: An Anniversary Celebration" Birthday Cake and Champagne will be Served Tuesday, October 3rd, 2000 12 - 2 PM The Downtown Harvard Club of Boston One Federal Street, Boston, MA The Club's Dress Code is Business Casual At Noon, on Tuesday October 3rd, 1995, at the end of summer in a year when all commerce on the internet was measured in mere tens of millions of dollars, one year *after* the first book was bought over the net (not on Amazon, but using a PGP-encrypted credit card between two people on the cypherpunks list) the 29 folks below: Richard Blatt Pierre Bouchard Jeffrey Bussgang Travis J.I. Corcoran John DeYoung Gerald Gold Phillip Hallam-Baker Fredrick Hapgood Steven Hecht Craig Heim Robert A. Hettinga Arthur Hutchinson Owen D. Johnson Howard Kaye, Jr. John Kelly Rohit Khare Peter Krautscheid David Lash Yezdi Lashkari Norbert Leser Richard Lethin David Lindbergh Peter Loshin Kevin B. McLellan James O'Toole Ken Rodrigues Richard Salz Jeffrey Sutherland Christopher Wysopal ...put on their suits and ties, went to Downtown Harvard Club of Boston on the 38th floor of the once-Shawmut, then-Fleet, now-Sovereign Bank Building. They had lunch, signed a membership book, and formed Boston Society for Digital Commerce, which, at the its next meeting, at the suggestion of Donald Eastlake "to make it more instantiable", changed its name to the Digital Commerce Society of Boston. Since then, every first Tuesday of the month (yes, we were the *first* first Tuesday, though not the First First Tuesday, :-)),with exactly two exceptions, one an act of God and the other an act of the Harvard Club and SailBoston :-), we've met, had lunch, schmoozed a bit, and listened to various principals in the business of digital commerce talk about how they do what they do. At the end of this message is a very long list of those who have spoken to DCSB so far. If we may say so, this list is indeed impressive, not only for the quality of the speakers and who they became, or even were at the time, but also for the prescience of their content. A lot of things have happened since then. Commerce on the net will soon be measured in trillions of dollars every year, and most people now believe that *all* commerce of any consequence will happen on the net soon enough. Oh. And the Harvard Club doesn't require a jacket and tie anymore. Why? Because of commerce on the internet, of course! :-). This meeting, we'll do something of a reprise of the first. Everyone will be given a chance to reminisce about the last 5 years, but more important, to predict three things that they think will happen in the next 5. Plus ca change, and all that. See you next week! This meeting of the Digital Commerce Society of Boston will be held on Tuesday, October 3rd, 2000, from 12pm - 2pm at the Downtown Branch of the Harvard Club of Boston, on One Federal Street. The price for lunch is $35.00. This price includes lunch, room rental, A/V hardware if necessary, and the speakers' lunch. The Harvard Club has relaxed its dress code, which is now "business casual", meaning no sneakers or jeans. Fair warning: since we purchase these luncheons in advance, we will be unable to refund the price of your meal if the Club finds you in violation of what's left of its dress code. We need to receive a company check, or a money order, (or, if we actually know you, a personal check) payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", by Saturday, September 30th, or you won't be on the list for lunch. Checks payable to anyone else but The Harvard Club of Boston will have to be sent back. Checks should be sent to Robert Hettinga, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, Massachusetts, 02131. Again, they *must* be made payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", in the amount of $35.00. Please include your e-mail address so that we can send you a confirmation If anyone has questions, or has a problem with these arrangements (We've had to work with glacial A/P departments more than once, for instance), please let us know via e-mail, and we'll see if we can work something out. Upcoming speakers for DCSB are: November Zully Ramzan and Nicko van Someren "A Micropayment Shootout" As you can see, :-), we are actively searching for future speakers. If you are in Boston on the first Tuesday of the month, are a principal in digital commerce, and would like to make a presentation to the Society, please send e-mail to the DCSB Program Committee, care of Robert Hettinga, <mailto: rah(a)shipwright.com>. For more information about the Digital Commerce Society of Boston, send "info dcsb" in the body of a message to <mailto: majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu> . If you want to subscribe to the DCSB e-mail list, send "subscribe dcsb" in the body of a message to <mailto: majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu> . We look forward to seeing you there! Cheers, R. A. Hettinga Moderator, The Digital Commerce Society of Boston - - - ---------------------------------- The 5th Anniversary List of DCSB previous meeting speakers and their topics... November 1995 Win Treese Designing Systems for Electronic Commerce December 1995 Rich Salz A Middleware Guy Looks at Issues in Digital Commerce January 1996 (Still Looking) (The lost meeting... Let us know if you remember! :-)) February 1996 Fred Hapgood Digital Commerce as Living Room ExIm, Retail Replacement March 1996 Mark Bernkopf Tales from the Dark Side: Non-Anonymous Digital Cash April 1996 Donald Eastlake, III Implementing Financial Cryptography, The Cybercash Example May 1996 Perry Metzger Gold Denominated Burmese Opium Futures? June 1996 Frank Jaffe The FSTC Electronic Check Project July 1996 Peter Loshin Electronic Commerce: The State of the Art August 1996 Duane Hewitt Betting on the Future September 1996 Tatsuo Tanaka The Transnationality of Digital Cash October 1996 Philippe Le Roux Putting a Stock Exchange on the Net November 1996 Philip S. Corwin The Election and Digital Commerce Agenda December 1996 Black Unicorn Money Laundering -- The Headless Horseman of the Infocalypse January 1997 Rodney Thayer Applying PGP To Digital Commerce February 1997 David Kaufman The Internet Consumer -- 1996 in Review & Predictions for 1997 March 1997 Daniel Greenwood Online Government & Electronic Commerce April 1997 Snowed out No Meeting May 1997 Stewart Baker Clinton Administration Crypto Policy June 1997 Fred Hapgood Internet as an Auction-Pricing Incubator July 1997 Win Treese IETF-TLS, Exporting Financial Cryptography, and the Prospects for SET August 1997 Duncan Frissell MarketEarth September 1997 Christof Paar Elliptic Curve Cryptography and Digital Commerce October 1997 Peter Cassidy A Future Garrisoned November 1997 Carl Elllison Identity and Certification for Digital Commerce December 1997 James 0'Toole Digital Coupons and Distributed Commerce January 1998 Donald Eastlake, III "SET and UNSET" February 1998 Phill Hallam-Baker (into the breach for Baum, see below) PKI and the Commercial CA (The Next Generation :-)) March 1998 Joseph Reagle Meta-data and Negotiation in Digital Commerce April 1998 Adam Shostack No Silver Bullet -- Digital Commerce and Payment Security May 1998 Donald Eastlake The Internet Open Trading Protocol June 1998 Michael Baum PKI and the Commercial CA (TOS :-)) July 1998 Scott Guthery CtrlShft in the Smart Card Industry August 1998 Frank Jaffe FSTC echeck US Treasury Pilot September 1998 Margaret Schindel Best Practices for Consumer Digital Commerce October 1998 Peter Cassidy Burning the Jolly Roger; Internet Anti-Piracy Technology November 1998 Dan Geer Risk Management is Where the Money Is; Trust in Digital Commerce December 1998 Mary Ellen Zurko Jonah, IBM, Open Source, and Digital Commerce January 1999 Ira Heffan and Mike Schmelzer Software Patents February 1999 Roland Meuller The European Directive on Privacy March 1999 Jonathan Rusch Internet Fraud and the Future of Digital Commerce April 1999 Fred Hapgood Product/Price Comparison in Digital Commerce May 1999 Chris Wysopal The L0pht and Client Security in Digital Commerce June 1999 Ron Rivest Microcash on the Internet, Deep Crack = MicroMint? July 1999 Tim Middelkoop Software Agent Systems for Digital Commerce August 1999 Ari Juels Outsourcing MicroMint Coins, and X-Cash September 1999 Andrew Odlyzko So, Where's All the Digital Cash? October 1999 Gerald Gold Internet Content -- Stories from the Front November 1999 Warren Agin Bankruptcy and Internet Commerce Assets December 1999 Pat Cain Trustable Internet Time and Digital Commerce January 2000 Elias Israel The Libertarians and Digital Commerce February 2000 Suzan Dionne Balz The Law of Digital Cash March 2000 Brad Hillis Implementing a State Digital Signature Law April 2000 Andrew Dubois Digital Commerce Policy in Canada May 2000 Yiannis Tsiounis InternetCash and the "loading" problem June 2000 Paul St. Pierre XML, Smartcard Wallets and Digital Commerce July 2000 4th of July/Tall Ships No Meeting August 2000 Bruce Schneier Secrets, Lies, and Digital Commerce September 2000 Fred Hapgood and Eric Johansson Post-Napster Models for Digital Commerce -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQEVAwUBOc90gcUCGwxmWcHhAQF7xQgApLZBGxOwuRrthBcx/Y17MMIXlGqrvxXB s29pmd/Lox8C6HVnwG6zamAsDK98gUG6U5SnDCuTisfUjkdVYC6De4jzzQgOoxsf Ndo9JKzEsSqZIVd6c3+WYnKMExchbCjBB6rtUPKlNJ1j/Kz9Pv0SkVhkv5MzK0b5 rqcSelPWSe3WigRvEz8Q+zZ0Ie3VMEQDA1S5hH9GJnrOXnI464bsdmmNq0jMrd0w SQmrGlS04mnqREikTiR7tN1TPXsFAWo6Al4Qzmrv6M1CJPNqeEH66YqqsByxxAG3 HwPaRNjQVHYSvKP+tnievErfU6d6v96AyHXqSAtU7nz8XWF8LGiz+w== =TRR5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To unsubscribe from this list, send a letter to: Majordomo(a)reservoir.com In the body of the message, write: unsubscribe dcsb-announce Or, to subscribe, write: subscribe dcsb-announce If you have questions, write to me at Owner-DCSB(a)reservoir.com --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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DCSB: Birthday Cake and Champagne -- DCSB's 5th Anniversary
by R. A. Hettinga 25 Sep '00

25 Sep '00

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Digital Commerce Society of Boston Presents well, The Digital Commerce Society of Boston, actually... "5 Years of Digital Commerce: An Anniversary Celebration" Birthday Cake and Champagne will be Served Tuesday, October 3rd, 2000 12 - 2 PM The Downtown Harvard Club of Boston One Federal Street, Boston, MA The Club's Dress Code is Business Casual At Noon, on Tuesday October 3rd, 1995, at the end of summer in a year when all commerce on the internet was measured in mere tens of millions of dollars, one year *after* the first book was bought over the net (not on Amazon, but using a PGP-encrypted credit card between two people on the cypherpunks list) the 29 folks below: Richard Blatt Pierre Bouchard Jeffrey Bussgang Travis J.I. Corcoran John DeYoung Gerald Gold Phillip Hallam-Baker Fredrick Hapgood Steven Hecht Craig Heim Robert A. Hettinga Arthur Hutchinson Owen D. Johnson Howard Kaye, Jr. John Kelly Rohit Khare Peter Krautscheid David Lash Yezdi Lashkari Norbert Leser Richard Lethin David Lindbergh Peter Loshin Kevin B. McLellan James O'Toole Ken Rodrigues Richard Salz Jeffrey Sutherland Christopher Wysopal ...put on their suits and ties, went to Downtown Harvard Club of Boston on the 38th floor of the once-Shawmut, then-Fleet, now-Sovereign Bank Building. They had lunch, signed a membership book, and formed Boston Society for Digital Commerce, which, at the its next meeting, at the suggestion of Donald Eastlake "to make it more instantiable", changed its name to the Digital Commerce Society of Boston. Since then, every first Tuesday of the month (yes, we were the *first* first Tuesday, though not the First First Tuesday, :-)),with exactly two exceptions, one an act of God and the other an act of the Harvard Club and SailBoston :-), we've met, had lunch, schmoozed a bit, and listened to various principals in the business of digital commerce talk about how they do what they do. At the end of this message is a very long list of those who have spoken to DCSB so far. If we may say so, this list is indeed impressive, not only for the quality of the speakers and who they became, or even were at the time, but also for the prescience of their content. A lot of things have happened since then. Commerce on the net will soon be measured in trillions of dollars every year, and most people now believe that *all* commerce of any consequence will happen on the net soon enough. Oh. And the Harvard Club doesn't require a jacket and tie anymore. Why? Because of commerce on the internet, of course! :-). This meeting, we'll do something of a reprise of the first. Everyone will be given a chance to reminisce about the last 5 years, but more important, to predict three things that they think will happen in the next 5. Plus ca change, and all that. See you next week! This meeting of the Digital Commerce Society of Boston will be held on Tuesday, October 3rd, 2000, from 12pm - 2pm at the Downtown Branch of the Harvard Club of Boston, on One Federal Street. The price for lunch is $35.00. This price includes lunch, room rental, A/V hardware if necessary, and the speakers' lunch. The Harvard Club has relaxed its dress code, which is now "business casual", meaning no sneakers or jeans. Fair warning: since we purchase these luncheons in advance, we will be unable to refund the price of your meal if the Club finds you in violation of what's left of its dress code. We need to receive a company check, or a money order, (or, if we actually know you, a personal check) payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", by Saturday, September 30th, or you won't be on the list for lunch. Checks payable to anyone else but The Harvard Club of Boston will have to be sent back. Checks should be sent to Robert Hettinga, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, Massachusetts, 02131. Again, they *must* be made payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", in the amount of $35.00. Please include your e-mail address so that we can send you a confirmation If anyone has questions, or has a problem with these arrangements (We've had to work with glacial A/P departments more than once, for instance), please let us know via e-mail, and we'll see if we can work something out. Upcoming speakers for DCSB are: November Zully Ramzan and Nicko van Someren "A Micropayment Shootout" As you can see, :-), we are actively searching for future speakers. If you are in Boston on the first Tuesday of the month, are a principal in digital commerce, and would like to make a presentation to the Society, please send e-mail to the DCSB Program Committee, care of Robert Hettinga, <mailto: rah(a)shipwright.com>. For more information about the Digital Commerce Society of Boston, send "info dcsb" in the body of a message to <mailto: majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu> . If you want to subscribe to the DCSB e-mail list, send "subscribe dcsb" in the body of a message to <mailto: majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu> . We look forward to seeing you there! Cheers, R. A. Hettinga Moderator, The Digital Commerce Society of Boston - - - ---------------------------------- The 5th Anniversary List of DCSB previous meeting speakers and their topics... November 1995 Win Treese Designing Systems for Electronic Commerce December 1995 Rich Salz A Middleware Guy Looks at Issues in Digital Commerce January 1996 (Still Looking) (The lost meeting... Let us know if you remember! :-)) February 1996 Fred Hapgood Digital Commerce as Living Room ExIm, Retail Replacement March 1996 Mark Bernkopf Tales from the Dark Side: Non-Anonymous Digital Cash April 1996 Donald Eastlake, III Implementing Financial Cryptography, The Cybercash Example May 1996 Perry Metzger Gold Denominated Burmese Opium Futures? June 1996 Frank Jaffe The FSTC Electronic Check Project July 1996 Peter Loshin Electronic Commerce: The State of the Art August 1996 Duane Hewitt Betting on the Future September 1996 Tatsuo Tanaka The Transnationality of Digital Cash October 1996 Philippe Le Roux Putting a Stock Exchange on the Net November 1996 Philip S. Corwin The Election and Digital Commerce Agenda December 1996 Black Unicorn Money Laundering -- The Headless Horseman of the Infocalypse January 1997 Rodney Thayer Applying PGP To Digital Commerce February 1997 David Kaufman The Internet Consumer -- 1996 in Review & Predictions for 1997 March 1997 Daniel Greenwood Online Government & Electronic Commerce April 1997 Snowed out No Meeting May 1997 Stewart Baker Clinton Administration Crypto Policy June 1997 Fred Hapgood Internet as an Auction-Pricing Incubator July 1997 Win Treese IETF-TLS, Exporting Financial Cryptography, and the Prospects for SET August 1997 Duncan Frissell MarketEarth September 1997 Christof Paar Elliptic Curve Cryptography and Digital Commerce October 1997 Peter Cassidy A Future Garrisoned November 1997 Carl Elllison Identity and Certification for Digital Commerce December 1997 James 0'Toole Digital Coupons and Distributed Commerce January 1998 Donald Eastlake, III "SET and UNSET" February 1998 Phill Hallam-Baker (into the breach for Baum, see below) PKI and the Commercial CA (The Next Generation :-)) March 1998 Joseph Reagle Meta-data and Negotiation in Digital Commerce April 1998 Adam Shostack No Silver Bullet -- Digital Commerce and Payment Security May 1998 Donald Eastlake The Internet Open Trading Protocol June 1998 Michael Baum PKI and the Commercial CA (TOS :-)) July 1998 Scott Guthery CtrlShft in the Smart Card Industry August 1998 Frank Jaffe FSTC echeck US Treasury Pilot September 1998 Margaret Schindel Best Practices for Consumer Digital Commerce October 1998 Peter Cassidy Burning the Jolly Roger; Internet Anti-Piracy Technology November 1998 Dan Geer Risk Management is Where the Money Is; Trust in Digital Commerce December 1998 Mary Ellen Zurko Jonah, IBM, Open Source, and Digital Commerce January 1999 Ira Heffan and Mike Schmelzer Software Patents February 1999 Roland Meuller The European Directive on Privacy March 1999 Jonathan Rusch Internet Fraud and the Future of Digital Commerce April 1999 Fred Hapgood Product/Price Comparison in Digital Commerce May 1999 Chris Wysopal The L0pht and Client Security in Digital Commerce June 1999 Ron Rivest Microcash on the Internet, Deep Crack = MicroMint? July 1999 Tim Middelkoop Software Agent Systems for Digital Commerce August 1999 Ari Juels Outsourcing MicroMint Coins, and X-Cash September 1999 Andrew Odlyzko So, Where's All the Digital Cash? October 1999 Gerald Gold Internet Content -- Stories from the Front November 1999 Warren Agin Bankruptcy and Internet Commerce Assets December 1999 Pat Cain Trustable Internet Time and Digital Commerce January 2000 Elias Israel The Libertarians and Digital Commerce February 2000 Suzan Dionne Balz The Law of Digital Cash March 2000 Brad Hillis Implementing a State Digital Signature Law April 2000 Andrew Dubois Digital Commerce Policy in Canada May 2000 Yiannis Tsiounis InternetCash and the "loading" problem June 2000 Paul St. Pierre XML, Smartcard Wallets and Digital Commerce July 2000 4th of July/Tall Ships No Meeting August 2000 Bruce Schneier Secrets, Lies, and Digital Commerce September 2000 Fred Hapgood and Eric Johansson Post-Napster Models for Digital Commerce -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQEVAwUBOc90gcUCGwxmWcHhAQF7xQgApLZBGxOwuRrthBcx/Y17MMIXlGqrvxXB s29pmd/Lox8C6HVnwG6zamAsDK98gUG6U5SnDCuTisfUjkdVYC6De4jzzQgOoxsf Ndo9JKzEsSqZIVd6c3+WYnKMExchbCjBB6rtUPKlNJ1j/Kz9Pv0SkVhkv5MzK0b5 rqcSelPWSe3WigRvEz8Q+zZ0Ie3VMEQDA1S5hH9GJnrOXnI464bsdmmNq0jMrd0w SQmrGlS04mnqREikTiR7tN1TPXsFAWo6Al4Qzmrv6M1CJPNqeEH66YqqsByxxAG3 HwPaRNjQVHYSvKP+tnievErfU6d6v96AyHXqSAtU7nz8XWF8LGiz+w== =TRR5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ----------------- R. 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CDR: Change your life - be your own boss
by Paul Ward 25 Sep '00

25 Sep '00

Hi, First of all, sorry for the intrusion but I'm looking for people who are interested in working from home and being their own boss and working when they feel like it. If you wish to find out more reply to this message with subject field of 'YES'. If you wish to be removed from this list reply with subject field of 'NO'. Thank you for your time.

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CDR: DCSB: Birthday Cake and Champagne -- DCSB's 5th Anniversary
by R. A. Hettinga 25 Sep '00

25 Sep '00

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CDR: europe physical meeting - important update
by Tom Vogt 25 Sep '00

25 Sep '00

there was an error in the directions. it is the line U3, not U1. sorry. also, you can find us by looking for the usual books on the tables. I'll definitely bring a copy of "privacy on the line", maybe others bring others, like the "usual" "applied cryptography". :) -- "The net treats censorship as a malfunction and re-routes around it." (John Gilmore)

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