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Redux: mass hate
by Aimee Farr 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

My introductory post (below) was based on a WMD domestic terrorism scenario, to predict surveillance end-states.

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by Jenny＠toad.com 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

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Re: Zimmermann\\\'s shameful display...
by citizenq＠hushmail.com 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

My god - you've hit on something here! Thank you, I forgot - everyone IS that way on the list. Just more so now. It's kind of like the guys in the inner city, they're always tough -insulting and challenging in in a way that's both threatening and jocular at the same time- on each other and you either have to harden to it and develop the skills for handling that particular kind of repartee and hold your own, or you are shunned from the social group. It's a way of bonding together and excluding "outsiders." No, I'm not new to the list. And I'm not worried about it. But I definitely detect a heightened level of anxiety in the posts. >On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 04:37:36PM -0700, citizenq(a)hushmail.com wrote: > >> Everyone is acting like a bunch of assholes, snotty know-it-alls, > >So you're new to the list? > >-Declan

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Bio-Chem References...
by Jim Choate 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

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Sen. Judd Gregg is drafting anti-encryption legislation
by Declan McCullagh 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

More on renewed interest in regulating crypto: http://www.wartimeliberty.com/search.pl?topic=encryption ********* http://www.wartimeliberty.com/article.pl?sid=01/09/22/026245 Senator Judd Gregg Prepares Anti-Encryption Bill posted by admin on Friday September 21, @09:05PM Sen. Judd Gregg (R-New Hampshire), who called for global backdoors in encryption products in a floor speech last week, is readying legislation. [...remainder snipped...]

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21 Sep '01

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Millennium - Operating System Directions for the Next Millennium
by Jim Choate 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

You can have it today...Plan 9 http://research.microsoft.com/research/sn/Millennium/mgoals.html -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Kill them all, take their land, and go there for vacation. Rage Against The Machine The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Zimmermann\'s shameful display...
by citizenq＠hushmail.com 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

I am enjoying, in a macabre sense, watching the great Rorschach Test that events have turned out to be, where everyone's own impression of the world is reflected in their interpretations to a much greater degree than usual. Everyone is acting like a bunch of assholes, snotty know-it-alls, children, and infantile technoids. And most of us are ostensibly more on the same side than not. It gives one pause with regard to the behavior between people who DISagree about these and similar kinds of issues. Aimee - is this predicted in your worldview? >Sandy Sandfort said: > >> Spineless "Anonymous" or "lain" or whomever wrote: > >>> Grow a spine, Phil, you jellyfish. > >>a) Anonymous fell for the oldest trick in book, he uncritically >>believed what he read in the newspaper. Missed my forwarded message >>from Phil, did you? > >There are two possibilities. Either Phil is a jellyfish or he's just >a naive self-promoting snake. In either case the best possible >scenario is that Phil is the one who fell for the oldest trick in the >book. He assumed the reporter would simply cater to his overbloated > >.... > > >And then there's Sandy. Sandy, I have watched you as a supposed >advocate of freedom, libertarian ideals, privacy, anonyminity, >consistently bad mouth about every anonymous poster on this list who >has anything of importance to say. I've seen Declan and Tim doing this even more so, but there are deep issues regarding the clash behind the theory of Reputation Capital and the Cypherpunk mandate that anonymity is an essential component of privacy.

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PGP author under fire for terrorist use of crypto
by Matthew Gaylor 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

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(fwd) [Oz-ISP] USG takes control of xpnder off PAS-2 (fwd)
by measl＠mfn.org 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 12:59:48 -0700 From: Rachel Warren <rachel(a)plur.net> To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: (fwd) [Oz-ISP] USG takes control of xpnder off PAS-2 I thought this might interest NANOG: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:11:39 +1000 (EST) From: Terence <terry(a)tdce.com.au> To: aussie-isp(a)aussie.net Cc: AusBONE Members <ausbone-members(a)ausbone.tdce.com.au> Subject: [Oz-ISP] USG takes control of xpnder off PAS-2 Well, there must be a big war coming up, because the US govmint just appropriated our PAS-2 transponder, effectively shutting down our regional operations on October 15. I'm more than happy for journalists to call me. I may be sympathetic to the USG over terrorism, but they can't go around putting AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL ISP's out of business... --- Terence C. Giufre-Sweetser +---------------------------------+--------------------------+ | TereDonn Telecommunications Ltd | Phone +61-[0]7-32369366 | | 1/128 Bowen St, SPRING HILL | FAX +61-[0]7-32369930 | | PO BOX 1054, SPRING HILL 4004 | Mobile +61-[0]414-663053 | | Queensland Australia | http://www.tdce.com.au | +---------------------------------+--------------------------+ Rachel -- http://www.plur.net/~rachel/misc/stock-market-nasdaq.jpg

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