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TIME.com: Nation -- TIME Exclusive: Cropduster Manual Discovered in Suspected Terrorist Hideout
by Jim Choate 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,175951,00.html -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Kill them all, take their land, and go there for vacation. Rage Against The Machine The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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more news you can use: Assyrians used LSD WMD
by citizenq＠hushmail.com 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

Medical Management Of Biological Casualties Handbook www.nbc-med.org/SiteContent/HomePage/WhatsNew/MedManual/Feb01/handbook.htm

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Re: FUCK ORACLE,FUCK LARRY ELLISON
by An Metet 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

Yeah, but will you divest?

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Bug Sweep, TSCM, Counterintelligence, and Technical Security
by Jim Choate 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

http://www.tscm.com/ -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Kill them all, take their land, and go there for vacation. Rage Against The Machine The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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by AOL Instant Messenger 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

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Re: Death of \'nations\'?
by auto301094＠hushmail.com 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Jim wrote: >Are we seeing the beginning of the end of the concept of 'nation'? Are we >faced with the incontrovertible truth that we either abandon the concepts >of science/technology, accept a autocratic state where our every move is >reviewed for threat potential, or do we find another solution to the >problems of mankind other than the 'state'? Are these the only three >choices? No, I hope not. Unfortunately, to quote Bernard Brodie, I suspect this may be a case in which the rigidity lies in the situation, not in the thinking. As long as the technology exists, it's going to be problematic. So then the really interesting question becomes finding a way to translate a more pro-freedom, idealistic approach into practical policy within the situation and institutional framework as it exists now. You know, it sort of gets back to Herman Kahn's idea of "men of influence" as those who "write the documents that are placed in the hands of the decisionmaker at key moments." As a "community", (if a term like that even makes sense) we could use a few more Men of Influence in the policy arena, rather than leaving it entirely in the hands of the statists. We turn up our noses at participating in the process and then wonder why it all turns out so badly. What a surprise. A useful exercise might be the following: pretend Condi Rice asked you to draft up a point paper of policy recommendations related to technology and security to be presented to the President next week. Could you distill your approach into a set of bullet points--short, to the point, and easy enough for George Bush to understand? If anyone gives it a try I'd certainly be glad to see it. Even getting it out in a public forum like this might be beneficial, who knows. *** If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose that freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that it values more, it will lose that, too. - --Somerset Maugham We live in a world where emergencies are always possible, and our survival may depend on our capacity to meet emergencies. Having said that, it is necessary also to say that emergency measures however good for the emergency do not make good permanent policies. Emergency measures are costly, they are superficial, and they imply that the enemy has the initiative. - --John Foster Dulles -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.0 wl8EARECAB8FAjuuY68YHGF1dG8zMDEwOTRAaHVzaG1haWwuY29tAAoJEKadvsVlUK4P qTUAoINUXPrdyYgnIu+B4BaKmAbICIO3AJ92/YxjG2Y8lyE5FO2fZH3yGUUaQQ== =jrHQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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STUFFING ENVELOPES
by DONNA GROEBLINGHOFF 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

I NEED SOMETHING ,USEFULL TO DO IN MY EVENINGS. I QUIT SMOKING, NOW I. NEED SOMETHING TO DO IN ORDER TO KEEP MY HANDS, BUSY, AND SO THAT I DON'T THINK ABOUT THEM , OR STUFFING FOOD IN MY FACE. I WOULD RATHER BE DOING SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST EATING ALL THE TIME IN THE EVENINGS. I Came across your home job, stuffing envelopes. That would be perfect, instead of stuffing food in my mouth, and just gain weight. I'd rather be stuffing envelopes, and have a little extra money to help out on my bills. Plus I don't need to gain weight, but I do need some extra cash, and this might be it. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION! DONNA GROEBLINGHOFF

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Rumsfelt vs. bin Laden
by An Metet 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

Looking at the pictures of Rumdumb and Osama side by side on the CNN page today, I was struck by the undeniable fact that Osama was a whole lot more appealing. Likewise when I see him next to Dubbya. And I have no interest in Islam or the radical Muslim cause.

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Re: Op-ed on encryption: Privacy is no longer an argument
by Bill Stewart 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

At 03:10 PM 09/23/2001 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: >On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Bill Stewart wrote: > > It is bait and switch, but the argument is that if the > > cops have keys to the house of the guy who drove the car into yours, > > they can go see if he's got any co-conspirators and arrest them, > > so the risk of getting caught is a deterrent to wouldbe co-conspirators > > in future wouldbe crimes, and meanwhile it lets the cops look good > > by catching the guys who helped do it. > >I think driving through my house qualifies as 'probable cause' to search >his house IF there is evidence or a clear line of reasoning that it >couldn't be done alone... Well, of course. But the analogy here was comparing house keys to crypto, which, unlike houses, can only be opened and searched if the cops have access to the keys, or if somebody left the back door open or used weak enough crypto for brute force to let them break in.

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Re: Op-ed on encryption: Privacy is no longer an argument
by Bill Stewart 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

At 01:01 AM 09/21/2001 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: >Speaking of ringing hollow... >How does having keys to my house keep somebody from throwing a fire bomb >on it, or driving a car through it? > >It don't. It's a bait and switch. >After it's burned down or a big hole in its side a key is rather >redundent. It is bait and switch, but the argument is that if the cops have keys to the house of the guy who drove the car into yours, they can go see if he's got any co-conspirators and arrest them, so the risk of getting caught is a deterrent to wouldbe co-conspirators in future wouldbe crimes, and meanwhile it lets the cops look good by catching the guys who helped do it. It's interesting to me that this looks like Ashcroft was somewhat on our side back when he was in the Senate, though of course that doesn't mean he'll stay that way as AG. >On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > > http://www.wartimeliberty.com/article.pl?sid=01/09/21/0450203 > > > > Crypto Op-Ed: Privacy No Longer an Argument > > posted by admin on Thursday September 20, @11:39PM > > > > M. W. Guzy has a provocative and not entirely coherent essay > > in Wednesday's St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Excerpt: "(Then-Senator > > John) Ashcroft wrote that mandating deciphering tools was tantamount > > to requiring 'individuals to surrender the keys to their house... to > > the FBI just in case they are someday suspected of breaking the law.' > > Somehow, that argument rings a little hollow when viewed through the > > smoldering ruins of the World Trade Center

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