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Hack MSN
by Hugo Alvarez 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

Hello Cyber punk: I visit your site and i think is VERY GOOD, congratulatinos for it... i wanna ask you something: Do you have any material about hacking MSN to see password or the messages when they're writing it? -> anything, document, programs... PLZ REPLY TO ME!!!! I BEG ON YOU... MASTER

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FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent
by AARG! Anonymous 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001350021-2001364909,00.html FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent FROM DAMIAN WHITWORTH IN WASHINGTON AMERICAN investigators are considering resorting to harsher interrogation techniques, including torture, after facing a wall of silence from jailed suspected members of Osama bin Ladens al-Qaeda network, according to a report yesterday. More than 150 people who were picked up after September 11 remain in custody, with four men the focus of particularly intense scrutiny. But investigators have found the usual methods have failed to persuade any of them to talk. Options being weighed include truth drugs, pressure tactics and extraditing the suspects to countries whose security services are more used to employing a heavy-handed approach during interrogations. Were into this thing for 35 days and nobody is talking. Frustration has begun to appear, a senior FBI official told The Washington Post. Under US law, evidence ! extracted using physical pressure or torture is inadmissible in court and interrogators could also face criminal charges for employing such methods. However, investigators suggested that the time might soon come when a truth serum, such as sodium pentothal, would be deemed an acceptable tool for interrogators. The public pressure for results in the war on terrorism might also persuade the FBI to encourage the countries of suspects to seek their extradition, in the knowledge that they could be given a much rougher reception in jails back home. One of the four key suspects is Zacarias Moussaoui, a French Moroccan, suspected of being a twentieth hijacker who failed to make it on board the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania. Moussaoui was detained after he acted suspiciously at a Minnesota flying school, requesting lessons in how to steer a plane but not how to take off or land. Both Morocco and France are regarded as having harsher interrogation methods than the United States! . The investigators have been disappointed that the usual incentives to break suspects, such as promises of shorter sentences, money, jobs and new lives in the witness protection programme, have failed to break the silence. We are known for humanitarian treatment, so basically we are stuck. Usually there is some incentive, some angle to play, what you can do for them. But it could get to that spot where we could go to pressure . . . where we dont have a choice, and we are probably getting there, an FBI agent involved in the investigation told the paper. The other key suspects being held in New York are Mohammed Jaweed Azmath and Ayub Ali Khan, Indians who were caught the day after the attacks travelling with false passports, craft knives such as those used in the hijackings and hair dye. Nabil Almarabh, a Boston taxi driver alleged to have links to al-Qaeda, is also being held. Some legal experts believe that the US Supreme Court, which has a conservative tilt, might ! be prepared to support curtailing the civil liberties of prisoners in terrorism cases. However, a warning that torture should be avoided came from Robert Blitzer, a former head of the FBIs counter-terrorism section. He said that the practice goes against every grain in my body. Chances are you are going to get the wrong person and risk damage or killing them. In all, about 800 people have been rounded up since the attacks, most of whom are expected to be found to be innocent. Investigators believe there could be hundreds of people linked to al-Qaeda living in the US, and the Bush Administration has issued a warning that more attacks are probably being planned. Newsweek magazine reports today that Mohammed Atta, the suspected ringleader who died in the first plane to hit the World Trade Centre, had been looking into hitting an aircraft carrier. Investigators retracing his movements found that he visited the huge US Navy base at Norfolk, Virginia, in February and April t! his year.

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Este Inverno...
by info＠giganetstore.com 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

<http://www.giganetstore.com> Este Inverno aqueça a sua alma...com um bom livro! Conheça as mais recentes novidades editoriais que colocamos ao seu dispôr. Todas as semanas! ----- Osama Bin Laden - A Estratégia do Terror <http://www.giganetstore.com/products/product.asp?channelId=0&CategoryId =28&subCategory=0&marcaId=0&productId=14313> Roland Jacquard é um profundo conhecedor do mundo árabe e do Médio Oriente, como é ainda director do Observatório Internacional do Terrorismo. A sua vasta bibliografia é aliás esclarecedora do profundo conhecimento que tem deste assunto. Tudo aquilo que a comunicação social tem insinuado acerca das ligações subterrâneas, da organização em rede, dos grupos que estão a transformar a humanidade em refém da sua estratégia, é não só confirmado, como largamente ampliado. O diagnóstico que daqui resulta é profundamente assustador. Mas é ao mesmo tempo um retrato sereno e objectivo. ----- Uma Casa para Mr. Biswas <http://www.giganetstore.com/products/product.asp?channelId=0&CategoryId =28&subCategory=0&marcaId=0&productId=14247> História da luta travada por alguém cuja rebeldia se inspira em forças ritualísticas de mito e tradição, que é uma análise subtil das situações coloniais, conta-nos a vida de um homem tranquilo, cujo maior temor era deixar-se alguma vez arregimentar ou escravizar, mesmo que pelos seus, e que, bastantes vezes ao longo do romance, não hesitará em opor-se sozinho àqueles que o cercam. A vitória que ambiciona consiste simplesmente em libertar Anand, o filho, e em morrer na sua própria casa... ----- Nostradamus e o Séc. XXI <http://www.giganetstore.com/products/product.asp?channelId=0&CategoryId =28&subCategory=0&marcaId=0&productId=14089> Um enorme cometa - que será visível a olho nu - aproxima-se rapidamente deste cometa, resultando daí a queda de um meteorito no oceano Atlântico. As consequências serão devastadoras para a humanidade... Pela primeira vez desde que as quadras de Nostradamus foram escritas, no século XVI, elas irão ser lidas na sequência narrativa original, reconstruindo-se a sucessão ordenada dos acontecimentos: a queda do meteorito, os terramotos e maremotos, o inverno artificial e a terceira guerra mundial. ----- Tão Veloz como o Desejo <http://www.giganetstore.com/products/product.asp?channelId=3&CategoryId =28&subCategory=0&marcaid=0&productId=14323> Júbilo veio ao mundo com um imenso sorriso e o dom de ouvir as palavras que habitam no coração das pessoas que o rodeiam. Era ainda menino e - ao servir de intérprete entre a avó, orgulhosa representante do povo Maia, e a mãe, de língua espanhola - já adoçava as palavras amargas que ambas trocavam, conseguindo que desse ódio nascesse respeito e amor. mais novidades » <http://www.giganetstore.com/index_promocao.asp?channelId=0> Para retirar o seu email desta mailing list deverá entrar no nosso site http:\\www.giganetstore.com <http://www.giganetstore.com/> , ir à edição do seu registo e retirar a opção de receber informação acerca das nossas promoções e novos serviços

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Re: Retribution not enough
by David Honig 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

At 12:21 AM 10/23/01 +0300, Sampo Syreeni wrote: >On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, David Honig wrote: > >>Sure. But unions work to make membership *compulsory*. They have other >>legal privledges. > >What can you say? People rent-seek. That's an axiom which also goes by the >name of "rationality". So the problem is not the union, but the >legislators and their backers. > Absolutely. There should be nothing stopping, nor encouraging, private assemblies. To give them --or anyone-- special privledges enforced by the state is wrong. But the state is composed of politicians who care not for principle but for votes. .... "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the Public Treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the Public Treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy always followed by dictatorship." --Alexander Fraser Tyler

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And another one bites the dust, another one down, another one down
by Khoder bin Hakkin 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011021/ts/attacks_anthrax.html WASHINGTON (AP) - A District of Columbia postal worker is ``gravely ill'' with inhaled anthrax, leading government officials to order testing for as many as 2,300 more mail employees, Mayor Anthony Williams said Sunday.

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Psychological violence of the antisocial/narcissistic/paraniod personality: the serial bully
by auto301094＠hushmail.com 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- (Szasz is right, but this is SO much fun... :D ~F.) "Constant criticism, nit-picking, no empathy, control freak, charm, devious, manipulative, intimidating? Read this..." The serial bully Identifying the psychopath or sociopath in our midst including the socialised psychopathic manager. "All cruelty springs from weakness." (Seneca, 4BC-AD65) "The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance my deride it, but in the end, there it is." Winston Churchill "Most organisations have a serial bully. It never ceases to amaze me how one person's divisive, disordered, dysfunctional behaviour can permeate the entire organisation like a cancer." (Tim Field) I estimate one person in thirty, male or female, is a serial bully. Who does the following profile describe in your life? The serial bully: is a convincing, practised liar and when called to account, will make up anything spontaneously to fit their needs at that moment has a Jekyll and Hyde nature-- is vile, vicious and vindictive in private, but innocent and charming in front of witnesses; no-one can (or wants to) believe this individual has a vindictive nature-- only the current target of the serial bully's aggression sees both sides; whilst the Jekyll side is described as "charming" and convincing enough to deceive personnel, management and a tribunal, the Hyde side is frequently described as "evil"; Hyde is the real person, Jekyll is an act excels at deception and should never be underestimated in their capacity to deceive uses excessive charm and is always plausible and convincing when peers, superiors or others are present (charm can be used to deceive as well as to cover for lack of empathy) is glib, shallow and superficial with plenty of fine words and lots of form-- but there's no substance is possessed of an exceptional verbal facility and will outmanoeuvre most people in verbal interaction, especially at times of conflict is often described as smooth, slippery, slimy, ingratiating, fawning, toadying, obsequious, sycophantic relies on mimicry, repetition and regurgitation to convince others that he or she is both a "normal" human being and a tough dynamic manager, as in extolling the virtues of the latest management fads and pouring forth the accompanying jargon is unusually skilled in being able to anticipate what people want to hear and then saying it plausibly cannot be trusted or relied upon fails to fulfil commitments shows an arrested level of emotional development; whilst language and intellect may appear to be that of an adult, the bully displays the emotional age of a five-year-old is emotionally immature and emotionally untrustworthy exhibits unusual and inappropriate attitudes to sexual matters, sexual behaviour and bodily functions; underneath the charming exterior there are often suspicions or hints of sex discrimination and sexual harassment, perhaps also sexual dysfunction, sexual inadequacy, sexual violence or sexual abuse in a relationship, is incapable of initiating or sustaining intimacy holds deep prejudices (eg against the opposite gender, people of a different sexual orientation, other cultures and religious beliefs, foreigners, etc-- prejudiced people are unvaryingly unimaginative) but goes to great lengths to keep this prejudicial aspect of their personality secret is self-opinionated and displays arrogance, audacity, a superior sense of entitlement and sense of invulnerability and untouchability has a deep-seated contempt of clients in contrast to his or her professed compassion is a control freak and has a compulsive need to control everyone and everything you say, do, think and believe; for example, will launch an immediate personal attack attempting to restrict what you are permitted to say if you start talking knowledgeably about psychopathic personality or antisocial personality disorder in their presence-- but aggressively maintains the right to talk (usually unknowledgeably) about anything they choose; serial bullies despise anyone who enables others to see through their deception and their mask of sanity displays a compulsive need to criticise whilst simultaneously refusing to value, praise and acknowledge others, their achievements, or their existence shows a lack of joined-up thinking with conversation that doesn't flow and arguments that don't hold water flits from topic to topic so that you come away feeling you've never had a proper conversation refuses to be specific and never gives a straight answer is evasive and has a Houdini-like ability to escape accountability undermines and destroys anyone who the bully perceives to be an adversary, a potential threat, or who can see through the bully's mask is adept at creating conflict between those who would otherwise collate incriminating information about them is quick to discredit and neutralise anyone who can talk knowledgeably about antisocial or sociopathic behaviours is also quick to belittle, undermine, denigrate and discredit anyone who calls, attempts to call, or might call the bully to account is highly manipulative, especially of people's perceptions and emotions (eg guilt) when called upon to share or address the needs and concerns of others, responds with impatience, irritability and aggression often has an overwhelming, unhealthy and narcissistic attention-seeking need to portray themselves as a wonderful, kind, caring and compassionate person, in contrast to their behaviour and treatment of others; the bully sees nothing wrong with their behaviour and chooses to remain oblivious to the discrepancy between how they like to be seen and how they are seen by others is mean-spirited, officious, and often unbelievably petty is greedy, selfish, and a parasite is always a taker and never a giver is convinced of their superiority and has an overbearing belief in their qualities of leadership but cannot distinguish between leadership (maturity, decisiveness, assertiveness, co-operation, trust, integrity) and bullying (immaturity, impulsiveness, aggression, manipulation, distrust, deceitfulness) often fraudulently claims qualifications, experience, titles, entitlements or affiliations which are ambiguous, misleading, or bogus often misses the semantic meaning of language, misinterprets what is said, sometimes wrongly thinking that comments of a satirical, ironic or general negative nature apply to him or herself is constantly imposing on others a false reality made up of distortion and fabrication sometimes displays a seemingly limitless demonic energy especially when engaged in attention-seeking activities or evasion of accountability and is often a committeeaholic or apparent workaholic Responsibility The serial bully appears to lack insight into his or her behaviour and seems to be oblivious to the crassness and inappropriateness thereof; however, it is more likely that the bully knows what they are doing but elects to switch off the moral and ethical considerations by which normal people are bound. If the bully knows what they are doing, they are responsible for their behaviour and thus liable for its consequences to other people. If the bully doesn't know what they are doing, they should be suspended from duty on the grounds of diminished responsibility and the provisions of the Mental Health Act should apply. Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD) The serial bully exhibits behaviours congruent with the diagnostic criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder. http://www.successunlimited.co.uk/bully/apd.htm Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) The serial bully exhibits behaviours congruent with the diagnostic criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder. http://www.successunlimited.co.uk/bully/npd.htm Paranoid Personality Disorder (PPD) The serial bully exhibits behaviours congruent with the diagnostic criteria for Paranoid Personality Disorder. http://www.successunlimited.co.uk/bully/ppd.htm Borderline Personality Disorder http://www.successunlimited.co.uk/bully/bpd.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.0 wl8EARECAB8FAjvUbCAYHGF1dG8zMDEwOTRAaHVzaG1haWwuY29tAAoJEKadvsVlUK4P oiUAnjnuzr6tkwVSBg95KikERrhzG5RrAJ9se/c3gTrQMj1jNRguoMEsiNWtpA== =jSKs -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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"Aid and Comfort": Jane Fonda in North Vietnam
by info＠hanoijane.net 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

PRE-PUBLICATION NOTICE "Aid and Comfort": Jane Fonda in North Vietnam McFarland & Co. is now accepting pre-publication orders for "Aid and Comfort": Jane Fonda in North Vietnam. Please visit www.hanoijane.net to view the book's cover, a flyer containing information about the book, a pre-publication order form, and ordering information. You will also find at www.hanoijane.net a link allowing on-line purchase of "Aid and Comfort": Jane Fonda in North Vietnam. I encourage those of you who want this book to succeed to forward this notice to your email lists, and to ask those recipients to forward it to others, and so on down the line. Also, feel free to print, copy, and distribute the flyer/order form, and ask libraries to purchase "Aid and Comfort." I cannot stress enough the importance of pre-publication orders. For one thing, they will affect the quantity of the book's first printing. For another, pre-publication orders may influence the publisher's promotional and related efforts on behalf of the book. Thus, it will be very helpful if those of you who intend to purchase "Aid and Comfort": Jane Fonda in North Vietnam order it now, and encourage others to do so. Thanks, HANK AND ERIKA HOLZER

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DOT proposes 'voluntary' prescreening of passengers
by Peter Capelli 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

I'm assuming that it's only voluntary to the airlines, and not the passengers ... http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO64966,00.html Pete Capelli pcapelli(a)nsec.net http://www.capelli.org PGP Key ID:0x829263B6 "Those who would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin, 1759

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FBI Travel Services -One stop shopping for all your domestic travel needs
by Tabla bin Rasa 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

Hey, the FBI should open a travel agency, to go with the 'housecleaning' fronts they run. Tomlinson says the Security Dudes in the better hotels are already on TLA payroll. At 02:15 PM 10/22/01 -0700, Greg Broiles wrote: >.. and a companion article says that some hotel chains are prepared to do >pre-screening for their customers, too, and have responded to FBI requests >for information after 9/11. In particular, Hilton Hotels, which also owns >the Hampton Inn, Doubletree, and Embassy Suites chains, as well as the >Waldorf-Astoria in NY and Palmer House in Chicago, says that they've >already got the technology in place and that it would be easy for them to >incorporate the necessary configuration changes. The CIO of Hilton is says >the only obstacle would be "privacy-related issues", which are likely to be >no issue at all if customers don't know it's happening or don't get an >opportunity to object.

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Retribution Time
by Nomen Nescio 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

De time be almost here, good peoples. Time to get yours. You know what I and I be talkin about -- no more fuckin around about it. All dem pigs and feds jes be sooo busy wid dem bin Ladens, dey got no time for us simple folks. Time be for I and I to git what we bin waitin for. Git dem muthafuckas dat bin fuckin wid us all dis time. Git dem pigs, git dem judges, git dem bill collectors, git dem banks and take all dat money. Git em all, let God sort dem out. Fuck shit up, any way you ken think of. Git dem assholes what done you wrong, git dem assholes doin everbody wrong. But above all, git you some money! I and I be talkin somemore bout dis shit pretty soon, hey! Bo Strange

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