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23 Nov '01

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Nuclear Pipe Bombs
by Tim May 22 Nov '01

22 Nov '01

On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 12:15 PM, baptista(a)pccf.net wrote: > exactly right Ken .. as i said before to Tim May - propaganda is the > key. Example - antrax theatre. > > i must admit i'm warming up to Tim May's tall pipe means of attaining > critical mass - much easier then playing with explosive and timing > devices - my only question is do our experts see a problem with > that means of delivery? > As I made clear in my post, it's not _my_ idea. It's one of the standard "basement nuke" proposed designs. I don't particularly care whether "nuclear terrorist" is added to my dossier by the agents in place here on this list, or by other readers, but I don't want to get credit not due me. Also, I'm not a nuke designer and don't plan to answer questions about neutron crossections, thermal excursions before criticality, etc. I will mention that Ken Brown's "many pieces along the length of the pipe" is the worst way to do this: it buys nothing over the two pieces approach and it causes all sorts of problems with the pieces getting too hot as they come together on the way down. (For example, the penultimate chunk falling toward the ultimate chunk...likely to already be melting and spraying molten U-235 inside the pipe. Just another fizzle. And fizzles are not very interesting, for reasons I stated. A way too expensive way to spread mere radiological terror, which could be done much more cheaply and easily by taking spent fuel rods and blowing them up, or just by grinding up spent fuel rods or other nuclear waste and then dumping it out of a plane over a city.) By the way, some calculations are still needed (by basement nuke designers) on what the closing speed needs to be to get a reasonable chain reaction yield. The rough calculations I saw said that a fall from 40 feet, with good tamping behind and all on sides of the masses, would work. But it would be easy enough to accelerate the falling mass even more. An explosive charge, maybe even a rocket motor. (The Little Boy nuke was of course a "gun" design. The maker of a basement nuke has the advantage of not having to be portable in even the sense that the Hiroshima (Little Boy) and Nagasaki (Fat Man) nukes were portable-with-a-big-bomber. The basement nuke can be surrounded by lots of shielding (to foil N.E.S.T.), can use lots of tamping material, and can be wasteful in use of fissionables.) --Tim May "Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice."--Barry Goldwater

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Re: Cypherpunk failures
by Ken Brown 22 Nov '01

22 Nov '01

"Major Variola (ret)" wrote: > > At 01:34 PM 11/18/01 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: > >On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 08:03:49PM -0800, jamesd(a)echeque.com wrote: > >> So though the cypherpunks list is moribund, and cypherpunks > >> are no longer fashionable, > > > >True. The DC cypherpunks are thinking of changing their name to > something > >more cuddly. > > Harmless Little Nerds? > Cryptotubbies? > Happy Fun Infosec Society? Much too 1990s. These times suit more loyal-sounding names. "Programmers Rally Against Terrorism"?

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Got blood agar?
by Major Variola (ret) 22 Nov '01

22 Nov '01

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Re: The Crypto Winter
by Faustine 22 Nov '01

22 Nov '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tim wrote: >Companies have been trying to convince the home computer user that they >should be encrypting for years. Doesn't work. And for not very >surprising reasons. Same thing seen in the home security business, >backups, etc. >(The average user doesn't make any backups. The average homeowner >doesn't do any more to secure his house than what it came with. In other >words, "the defaults." ) Right. I suppose there's not much that can be done for people who expect "security" to be handed down to them from the sky on a silver platter. I'm sure it couldn't be more obvious to most here that if you don't put out the effort to take responsibility for your own security, you aren't going to have it--for your computer or anything else. But then, that sounds suspiciously resonant with "if they're too lazy or stupid to get it, then screw em", doesn't it. I think the real flaw there--what keeps me so uncomforable with it (even though my gut tells me it's a logical conclusion)--is reflected in the sheer number of people I've seen change their minds once they found out a little more about how insecure they really are. Haven't you ever been in a discussion/argument/presentation about computer security with someone, and at some point you notice that moment when it finally registers, you know that it really penetrated something...and they must have that sickening queazy little feeling in the pit of their stomachs when they say: "Oh my God, I had no idea". And at some point, haven't you all felt that sick, queasy shock of recognition yourselves? Maybe from something you read on John Young's site, or in response to being hacked? I certainly did--after that everything was different. It's a great feeling to have someone thank you for giving them the information they needed to wake up and do something to help themselves. The downside is you always risk coming across like a nutcase cyber-Cassandra, but you don't have to if you just let the raw facts do the convincing for you. More generally, I found it puzzling to see everyone getting hysterical over 911 when we're precisely no more and no less vulnerable than we ever were. I didn't learn a thing from it I hadn't already come to terms with on my own. (Having been abandoned as a child and homeless on your own at 17 tends to do an excellent job of ridding a person of any excess sense of security. Not that I'd recommend it...) So maybe for all the people who responded to the shock of 911 with "I'd give up all my civil liberties to feel safe again" there were enough who were jolted into taking responsibility for their own security to make a difference. Something to consider when thinking about the future of crypto, anyway. ~Faustine. *** The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedoms. - --William O. Douglas, Associate Justice, US Supreme Court -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBO/ltPfg5Tuca7bfvEQL/JwCfQQ52fwi89RCGrb09x7HQZLw3/t4AoKFN 5n8Eq5Nqn8kjDbFLGIonDTzT =ADtX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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22 Nov '01

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Re: Denning's Geo-crypto
by Major Variola (ret) 22 Nov '01

22 Nov '01

At 11:35 AM 11/22/01 -0800, John Young wrote: Do caves >serve as acoustic resonators to emit recorded whispers up >ventilating shafts? Their waveguide, not resonance, properties might be of interest, if their CO2 emissions -whether speaking or silent- were not so telling. Unless Osama's got a *bunch* of lime. Thermal sig is telling too. They don't grow weed under lights in the karez, do they?

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