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48 hours
by mattd 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

The au puppet satellite state is bringing in legislation to allow unnamed secret police (against law to reveal their ID) to kidnap and keep people 48 hous.Presumably they may then be rekidnapped.My response at melb indymedia. 48 hours in a windowless box,under full time,lights on surveillance with a toothache? been there,done that. With creeping secrecy y'all wont have to worry your pretty little heads at all.A drumhead secret military court can disappear independent journalists without a trace. "The govt.doesn't protect me from the terrorists,the govt.is the terrorist" AND What scares the state? by proffr 5:58pm Thu Nov 29 '01 The state fear 'assasination politics' I hope they are correct to do so. Lawyers and journalists should be stocking up on crypto right now and no one should do business with a lawyer or journalist without crypto,preferably in a confessional box. Before 1975, most of us would not have been able to imagine public-key encryption.Encryption can pose potentially insurmountable challenges to law enforcement and should when law enforcement becomes kidnapping. The governmental powers that be can't do much about drug-dealing or terrorism--if only because they themselves are the chief drug dealers and the chief terrorists.Fuck this government. We are the government and we say what happens and doesn't happen in this country.

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N-grams and the state,
by mattd 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

At 11:25 AM 12/11/01 +1100, mattd wrote: >"...What are N-Grams? N-Gram Analysis is a a method patented by the NSA ..." > >"You spooks are a bunch of gray, snivelling, alcoholic, Aldrich Ames >lookalikes driving around in your rusty Toyotas." Perhaps, but this does not negate the discriminative value of n-grams. END. Look baba rum raisin,Your right,I rush sometimes,relying on the good will and intelligence of the list and I make mistakes.Im sorry.OK.Ill try not to do it again.

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PUBLI/ENSE�ANZA
by brokers-university 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

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AP Al Quim.I was a teenage assasin.
by mattd 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

>At 10:17 AM 12/11/01 +1100, mattd wrote: >Jim seems to have missed out on teenagerhood.CJ seems not to have left >teenagerhood.The boiling pot is like darwins discovery of evolution,It The personal flaws of an author do not detract from his ideas. What personal flaws? I mean no disrespect to jim and cj at all.To me teenagerhoods good.Very good.(check google if you dont believe me) Im sorry that it appears jim missed out a little.I have no way of knowing that actually so Im taking liberties.I guess jim got into trouble for stinkbombing,destroying mail and stalking because he just wanted to get more publicity? And CJ was clearly set up but from what I read of his he has a great spirit that gets crushed out of most of us some time between childhood and adulthood.If growing up means accepting 5 million laws and all the grey mind dead bureaucrats that go with them,I refuse to grow up. The ideas remain undetracted by my petty bitching about jims use of freud and his choice of restaurants,what was the supposed 'hate' literature in his car btw? CJ is immaculate in my book.The very model of a modern major madcriminal.I just cant read all his stuff,right away.Im fuckin busy man,allright? KILLTHEPRESIDENTTHENBILLGATESTHENDICKCHENEYTHENTHENEXTPRESIDENTANDSOONFOREVERKILLKILL.

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Re: UPI editor: dissent is like soviet propoganda
by jamesd＠echeque.com 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

-- On 10 Dec 2001, at 11:23, Ken Brown wrote: > About 3 years ago I found out that I could understand some > of your postings by exchanging the words "socialism" for > "capitalism" when ever they occurred - you fell for the > Soviet lie that called their oppressive state capitalism by > the name of "socialism"... If that was a lie, then it is odd that until Khruschev renounced Stalin, the entire left fell for it. I have frequently commented on Chomsky's extraordinary servility towards Soviet foreign policy. Even to this day the socialists white wash Sihanouk, because though he was murdering real and suspected communists internally, he served Soviet foreign policy in external affairs. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG RmPRRwv70zSuTkYU+smeyfgtiK/+vkrGKoiVI4ew 4eGRNHwI044Lhif5a65dau79zOgEKfauvhe1kMCrB

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N-grams and the state
by Tabla bin Rasa 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

At 11:25 AM 12/11/01 +1100, mattd wrote: >"...What are N-Grams? N-Gram Analysis is a a method patented by the NSA ..." > >"You spooks are a bunch of gray, snivelling, alcoholic, Aldrich Ames >lookalikes driving around in your rusty Toyotas." Perhaps, but this does not negate the discriminative value of n-grams.

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Re: AP Al quim
by Tabla bin Rasa 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

At 10:17 AM 12/11/01 +1100, mattd wrote: >Jim seems to have missed out on teenagerhood.CJ seems not to have left >teenagerhood.The boiling pot is like darwins discovery of evolution,It The personal flaws of an author do not detract from his ideas. We even tolerate your unmedicated rants for the same reason. Cf Rand and her affair. Condit does not count.

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Re: OT Kleist's "Michael Kohlhaas"
by Tabla bin Rasa 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

At 09:07 PM 12/10/01 -0500, Agent Faustine wrote: >In case you haven't read it, here's a partial synopsis of Heinrich von >Kleist's "Michael Kohlhaas", written in 1810.... > >In Michael Kohlhaas, Heinrich von Kleist tells the grim story of how a >relatively small injustice escalates almost into civic insurrection. It is the >story of the wealthy horse trader Michael Kohlhaas. Sounds like copyright infringement on Keyzer Soze's story. Or various future characters..

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Re: [linux-elitists] Phil Zimmermann on key exchange (fwd)
by Eugene Leitl 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

-- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBMTO: N48 04'14.8'' E11 36'41.2'' http://www.leitl.org 57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:24:46 -0800 From: Don Marti <dmarti(a)zgp.org> To: linux-elitists(a)zgp.org Subject: Re: [linux-elitists] Phil Zimmermann on key exchange begin Seth David Schoen quotation of Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:42:26PM -0800: > Reviving a thread from last month: (More on encrypted email infrastructure from Seth: http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/2001-12-07.html) > The Board of Directors of EFF met today in San Francisco, and I made a > presentation about this, in the presence of Brad Templeton and others. > One of the conclusions was that EFF's role in implementing something > like this is still not defined clearly enough, and we don't know what > we could most usefully do. In order to seriously deploy encrypted email you need to kick the email client support problem and the key management problem at the same time. One possible role for EFF would be as a founding member of an encrypted email industry consortium analogous to W3C. Such an organization would have to be positioned as a way to fight cyberterrorism and protect infrastructure. It would be nice to get Ximian, the KDE project and Qualcomm to join, and use the words "Secure Email" or "Email Security" in the organization's name somewhere. You probably aren't going to get any mail client vendor that depends on many Secret Police customers to join. -- Don Marti What do we want? Free Dmitry! When do we want it? Now! http://zgp.org/~dmarti dmarti(a)zgp.org Free the web, burn all GIFs. KG6INA http://burnallgifs.org/ _______________________________________________ linux-elitists http://zgp.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-elitists

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Slashdot | Google Expands Usenet Archive to 20 Years
by Jim Choate 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

http://slashdot.org/articles/01/12/11/0727218.shtml -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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