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Re: Cryptogram: Palladium Only for DRM
by Nomen Nescio 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

Peter Biddle writes: > Pd is designed to fail well - failures in SW design shouldn't result in > compromised secrets, and compromised secrets shouldn't result in a BORE > attack. Could you say something about the sense in which Palladium achieves BORE ("break once run everywhere") resistance? It seems that although Palladium is supposed to be able to provide content security (among other things), a broken Palladium implementation would allow extracting the content from the "virtual vault" where it is kept sealed. In that case the now-decrypted content can indeed run everywhere. This seems to present an inconsistency between the claimed strength of the system and the description of its security behavior. This discrepancy may be why Palladium critics like Ross Anderson charge that Microsoft intends to implement "document revocation lists" which would let Palladium systems seek out and destroy illicitly shared documents and even programs. Some have claimed that Microsoft is talking out of both sides of its mouth, promising the content industry that it will be protected against BORE attacks, while assuring the security/privacy community that the system is limited in its capabilities. If you could clear up this discrepancy that would be helpful. Thanks... --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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1/2 Price Sale...........
by 1/2 Price Sale 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

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Felicidades!!!!
by Sandra Delgado 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

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Re: software-defined radio killer app
by Morlock Elloi 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

> Better than a radar detector for emissionless, but visible, cops. Over > the hill coverage. Issues of This will be banned under WIPO and copyright laws - you may enjoy cop's presence for yourself, but transmitting it is same as broadcasting a live show without permission - after all, the all information cops emit is "present or not", so you, in essence, steal 100% of their IP. Due to a number of various radio equipment that armed people use, and characteristic signatures, it's often more than enough to listen on several frequences and match the spectral fingerprint to detect their presence (car radio, personal radio, etc.) I think that some radar detectors have this built-in. The main problem is localisation - each district seem to be using different frequences. Could it be that They are aware of dangers of the monoculture ? ===== end (of original message) Y-a*h*o-o (yes, they scan for this) spam follows: Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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but _is_ the pentium securely virtualizable? (Re: Cryptogram: Palladium Only for DRM)
by Adam Back 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 11:01:06PM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > [...] in a correctly operating OS, MMUs+file permissions do more or > less stop processes from seeing each others data if the OS functions > correctly. The OS can stop user processes inspecting each others address space. Therefor a remote exploit in one piece of application software should not result in a compromise of another piece of software. (So an IE bug should not allow the banking application to be broken.) (Note also that in practice with must current OSes converting gaining root once given access to local processes is not that well guaranteed). However the OS itself is a complex piece of software, and frequently remote exploits are found in it and/or the device drivers it runs. OS exploits can freely ignore the protection between user applications, reading your banking keys. Even if a relatively secure OS is run (like some of the BSD variants), the protection is not _that_ secure. Vulnerabilities are found periodically (albeit mostly by the OS developers rather than externally -- as far as we know). Plus also the user may be tricked into running trojaned device drivers. So one approach to improve this situation (protect the user from the risks of trojaned device drivers and too large and complex to realistically assure security of OSes) one could run the OS itself in ring0 and a key store and TOR in ring-1 (the palladium approach). Some seem to be arguing that you don't need a ring-1. But if you read the paper Peter provided a reference for, they conclude that the pentium architecture is not (efficiently) securely virtualizable. The problem area is the existance of sensitive but unprivileged instructions. The fact that VMWare works just means they used some tricks to make it practically virtualize some common OSes, not that it is no longer possible to write malicious software to run as user or privileged level inside the guest OS and have it escape the virtualization. (It is potentially inefficently securely virtualizable using complete software emulation, but this is highly inefficient). (Anonymous can continue on cypherpunks if Perry chooses to censor his further comments.) Adam -- http://www.cypherspace.net/

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Go to Java. Go Now!
by Caravel UK 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

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RESTORATION
by Peter 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

Hello Sir/Ma, Good day. I wish to share something beautiful with you but will need your permission to do so. My point of focus is one based on somebody I know, love and have a relationship with (whom I think you should meet too). His name is Jesus Christ. Please kindly hear me out. But if you do not wish to do so, simply delete this message from your mail box and don't bother about it in any way. Reading to this point is even enough worth thanking you for. If on the other hand, you do not mind granting me audience, then I imploy you to graciously accept my invitation to read on. I believe you will like it. I thank you. What I have to share with you is something very important. In fact, for me,it is the most important thing to talk about on this axis of existence. Sure, all men should pay attention to it. It is obvious that this world is a place filled with violence, uncertainties and atrocities which mock man's claims to decency. But it could have been better. Someone cares and an encounter with that caring personality is needed to guarantee lasting ease on earth and hereafter because in here is "...no continuing city..." (Heb.13:14). Besides, "...we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness are as filthy rags;..." (Isa.64:6). The all important issue I would like to talk to you about is one that borders on where one would spend the rest of his or her life after dying physically. Listen up please. Confronting every man is this stark (and perhaps rude) reality that life continues after his or her last earthly breath. Sorry, there isn't anything like the state of nothingness after death (Heb.9:27). No. None. Eternity is great! It is endless! In fact, it is the lifetime of the never dying God. When we all eventually close our eyes in life here, we will surely open them in eternity - never to go back to correct any mistake done in the past. So the best we can do for ourselves in time now is to secure our chances of making it at last to God in heaven. And the agent of that security is the guy I started out talking to you about. He is self existent from eternity past (Prov.8). He could not be felt by man's conscious apparatuses i.e. his sense organs, so He had to take on a body (Heb.10:4-7) so that He could relate with humans like you and I in order to lead us back to God (Heb.2:14) from whom we logged off when Adam and Eve, our first parents sinned (Gen.3). The sin they committed stained the whole of the human race (Rom.5:16,17a,19,21). Little wonder King David quipped that "Behold I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me" (PS.51:5). Apostle Paul's own submission is "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God" (Rom.3:23). But of more serious implication is it's consequence: The soul that sinneth, it shall die...(Ezek.18:20a). So only a sinless individual can offer help to it, something my hero did. His name again is Jesus Christ. Sinless from the start, He responded to the call for a saviour for mankind the instance it was made in heaven (Jh.10:17,18) and had to lay down His life in the process. "Why" you asked? Well, in spiritual parlance, life goes for life and by yielding to the temptation of the devil, Adam and Eve caused mankind to lose the life of God (Eph.4:18) but Christ paid the debt by dying on the cross of Calvary (Matt.27; Heb.9:22) and rising up again on the third day from the dead through the power of the Holy Spirit (Matt.28:1-6; Rom.6:4;1 Cor.15:3,4). Hallelujah! His action was a clear expression of God's unreserved love for mankind (Jh.3:16). Now, you and I need to willingly and consciously surrender the Lordship of our lives to Him in order to be secured from the eternal damnation of hell - out of God's holy presence. Please do note today that whoever allows Jesus into his or her life, would never live to regret the action taken (Rev.3:20; Jh.10:10). I therefore humbly invite you to do it now. The bible says whosoever comes to Christ, He would in no wise cast out (Jh.6:37). Whoever does so, is assured of eternal life (Jh.3:16). If you are ready to do the above, then simply follow these steps: First, acknowledge that you are a sinner who cannot save himself/herself no matter how much you try to. Second, believe in the provision that God has graciously made available for man to be saved - Jesus Christ (Acts 4:12). Then, simply say a prayer asking for forgiveness for your sins in Jesus name and He will save you (Ps.51:17). He is only the mention of His name far away from you. Your name will then be written in the book of life (Phil.4:3). That is when it is said that you are born again. That is when you can enjoy the true peace that only His spirit brings (Rom.14:11). That is when your own spirit is regenerated to be accostumed to His ways (Rom.8:10,11,14; 1 Cor.2:14,15). That is when you can safely escape the danger of eternal anguish for your immortal soul (Jh.3:18). However, you must be willing to depend on the sweet Holy Spirit to live a life which is pleasing to God. So are you born again or would you like to be now? Do take note that Jesus loves you dearly and He wants to save you today (Matt.11:28; Mk.10:45; Jh.6:36). Please give your heart to Him and you will be glad you did. I care about your welfare but God cares more. I am glad you could let me talk to you about Him. So I thank you very much for granting me your audience. May God bless you richly in Jesus name. Amen. Peter, Lagos.

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RESTORATION
by Peter 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

Hello Sir/Ma, Good day. I wish to share something beautiful with you but will need your permission to do so. My point of focus is one based on somebody I know, love and have a relationship with (whom I think you should meet too). His name is Jesus Christ. Please kindly hear me out. But if you do not wish to do so, simply delete this message from your mail box and don't bother about it in any way. Reading to this point is even enough worth thanking you for. If on the other hand, you do not mind granting me audience, then I imploy you to graciously accept my invitation to read on. I believe you will like it. I thank you. What I have to share with you is something very important. In fact, for me,it is the most important thing to talk about on this axis of existence. Sure, all men should pay attention to it. It is obvious that this world is a place filled with violence, uncertainties and atrocities which mock man's claims to decency. But it could have been better. Someone cares and an encounter with that caring personality is needed to guarantee lasting ease on earth and hereafter because in here is "...no continuing city..." (Heb.13:14). Besides, "...we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness are as filthy rags;..." (Isa.64:6). The all important issue I would like to talk to you about is one that borders on where one would spend the rest of his or her life after dying physically. Listen up please. Confronting every man is this stark (and perhaps rude) reality that life continues after his or her last earthly breath. Sorry, there isn't anything like the state of nothingness after death (Heb.9:27). No. None. Eternity is great! It is endless! In fact, it is the lifetime of the never dying God. When we all eventually close our eyes in life here, we will surely open them in eternity - never to go back to correct any mistake done in the past. So the best we can do for ourselves in time now is to secure our chances of making it at last to God in heaven. And the agent of that security is the guy I started out talking to you about. He is self existent from eternity past (Prov.8). He could not be felt by man's conscious apparatuses i.e. his sense organs, so He had to take on a body (Heb.10:4-7) so that He could relate with humans like you and I in order to lead us back to God (Heb.2:14) from whom we logged off when Adam and Eve, our first parents sinned (Gen.3). The sin they committed stained the whole of the human race (Rom.5:16,17a,19,21). Little wonder King David quipped that "Behold I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me" (PS.51:5). Apostle Paul's own submission is "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God" (Rom.3:23). But of more serious implication is it's consequence: The soul that sinneth, it shall die...(Ezek.18:20a). So only a sinless individual can offer help to it, something my hero did. His name again is Jesus Christ. Sinless from the start, He responded to the call for a saviour for mankind the instance it was made in heaven (Jh.10:17,18) and had to lay down His life in the process. "Why" you asked? Well, in spiritual parlance, life goes for life and by yielding to the temptation of the devil, Adam and Eve caused mankind to lose the life of God (Eph.4:18) but Christ paid the debt by dying on the cross of Calvary (Matt.27; Heb.9:22) and rising up again on the third day from the dead through the power of the Holy Spirit (Matt.28:1-6; Rom.6:4;1 Cor.15:3,4). Hallelujah! His action was a clear expression of God's unreserved love for mankind (Jh.3:16). Now, you and I need to willingly and consciously surrender the Lordship of our lives to Him in order to be secured from the eternal damnation of hell - out of God's holy presence. Please do note today that whoever allows Jesus into his or her life, would never live to regret the action taken (Rev.3:20; Jh.10:10). I therefore humbly invite you to do it now. The bible says whosoever comes to Christ, He would in no wise cast out (Jh.6:37). Whoever does so, is assured of eternal life (Jh.3:16). If you are ready to do the above, then simply follow these steps: First, acknowledge that you are a sinner who cannot save himself/herself no matter how much you try to. Second, believe in the provision that God has graciously made available for man to be saved - Jesus Christ (Acts 4:12). Then, simply say a prayer asking for forgiveness for your sins in Jesus name and He will save you (Ps.51:17). He is only the mention of His name far away from you. Your name will then be written in the book of life (Phil.4:3). That is when it is said that you are born again. That is when you can enjoy the true peace that only His spirit brings (Rom.14:11). That is when your own spirit is regenerated to be accostumed to His ways (Rom.8:10,11,14; 1 Cor.2:14,15). That is when you can safely escape the danger of eternal anguish for your immortal soul (Jh.3:18). However, you must be willing to depend on the sweet Holy Spirit to live a life which is pleasing to God. So are you born again or would you like to be now? Do take note that Jesus loves you dearly and He wants to save you today (Matt.11:28; Mk.10:45; Jh.6:36). Please give your heart to Him and you will be glad you did. I care about your welfare but God cares more. I am glad you could let me talk to you about Him. So I thank you very much for granting me your audience. May God bless you richly in Jesus name. Amen. Peter, Lagos.

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RESTORATION
by Peter 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

Hello Sir/Ma, Good day. I wish to share something beautiful with you but will need your permission to do so. My point of focus is one based on somebody I know, love and have a relationship with (whom I think you should meet too). His name is Jesus Christ. Please kindly hear me out. But if you do not wish to do so, simply delete this message from your mail box and don't bother about it in any way. Reading to this point is even enough worth thanking you for. If on the other hand, you do not mind granting me audience, then I imploy you to graciously accept my invitation to read on. I believe you will like it. I thank you. What I have to share with you is something very important. In fact, for me,it is the most important thing to talk about on this axis of existence. Sure, all men should pay attention to it. It is obvious that this world is a place filled with violence, uncertainties and atrocities which mock man's claims to decency. But it could have been better. Someone cares and an encounter with that caring personality is needed to guarantee lasting ease on earth and hereafter because in here is "...no continuing city..." (Heb.13:14). Besides, "...we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness are as filthy rags;..." (Isa.64:6). The all important issue I would like to talk to you about is one that borders on where one would spend the rest of his or her life after dying physically. Listen up please. Confronting every man is this stark (and perhaps rude) reality that life continues after his or her last earthly breath. Sorry, there isn't anything like the state of nothingness after death (Heb.9:27). No. None. Eternity is great! It is endless! In fact, it is the lifetime of the never dying God. When we all eventually close our eyes in life here, we will surely open them in eternity - never to go back to correct any mistake done in the past. So the best we can do for ourselves in time now is to secure our chances of making it at last to God in heaven. And the agent of that security is the guy I started out talking to you about. He is self existent from eternity past (Prov.8). He could not be felt by man's conscious apparatuses i.e. his sense organs, so He had to take on a body (Heb.10:4-7) so that He could relate with humans like you and I in order to lead us back to God (Heb.2:14) from whom we logged off when Adam and Eve, our first parents sinned (Gen.3). The sin they committed stained the whole of the human race (Rom.5:16,17a,19,21). Little wonder King David quipped that "Behold I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me" (PS.51:5). Apostle Paul's own submission is "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God" (Rom.3:23). But of more serious implication is it's consequence: The soul that sinneth, it shall die...(Ezek.18:20a). So only a sinless individual can offer help to it, something my hero did. His name again is Jesus Christ. Sinless from the start, He responded to the call for a saviour for mankind the instance it was made in heaven (Jh.10:17,18) and had to lay down His life in the process. "Why" you asked? Well, in spiritual parlance, life goes for life and by yielding to the temptation of the devil, Adam and Eve caused mankind to lose the life of God (Eph.4:18) but Christ paid the debt by dying on the cross of Calvary (Matt.27; Heb.9:22) and rising up again on the third day from the dead through the power of the Holy Spirit (Matt.28:1-6; Rom.6:4;1 Cor.15:3,4). Hallelujah! His action was a clear expression of God's unreserved love for mankind (Jh.3:16). Now, you and I need to willingly and consciously surrender the Lordship of our lives to Him in order to be secured from the eternal damnation of hell - out of God's holy presence. Please do note today that whoever allows Jesus into his or her life, would never live to regret the action taken (Rev.3:20; Jh.10:10). I therefore humbly invite you to do it now. The bible says whosoever comes to Christ, He would in no wise cast out (Jh.6:37). Whoever does so, is assured of eternal life (Jh.3:16). If you are ready to do the above, then simply follow these steps: First, acknowledge that you are a sinner who cannot save himself/herself no matter how much you try to. Second, believe in the provision that God has graciously made available for man to be saved - Jesus Christ (Acts 4:12). Then, simply say a prayer asking for forgiveness for your sins in Jesus name and He will save you (Ps.51:17). He is only the mention of His name far away from you. Your name will then be written in the book of life (Phil.4:3). That is when it is said that you are born again. That is when you can enjoy the true peace that only His spirit brings (Rom.14:11). That is when your own spirit is regenerated to be accostumed to His ways (Rom.8:10,11,14; 1 Cor.2:14,15). That is when you can safely escape the danger of eternal anguish for your immortal soul (Jh.3:18). However, you must be willing to depend on the sweet Holy Spirit to live a life which is pleasing to God. So are you born again or would you like to be now? Do take note that Jesus loves you dearly and He wants to save you today (Matt.11:28; Mk.10:45; Jh.6:36). Please give your heart to Him and you will be glad you did. I care about your welfare but God cares more. I am glad you could let me talk to you about Him. So I thank you very much for granting me your audience. May God bless you richly in Jesus name. Amen. Peter, Lagos.

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