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So, where's the key?
by paul＠poboy.b17c.ingr.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Cypherpunks Key-Cracking project is complete, but AFAIK no one's reported the successful key. Either people haven't completed all the key chunks they've signed out for, or something's wrong with our methodology. A third alternative is that the lucky lottery winner just missed the results, and a fourth is that I just missed it. - -Paul - -- Paul Robichaux, KD4JZG | Do you support free speech? Even when perobich(a)ingr.com | you don't like what's being said? Be a cryptography user. Ask me how. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMAaOQKfb4pLe9tolAQF8EgQApwrvjBHEPkI2VWG9NaaFU4yHKtkj9EZX ok3xvAfIYslKqPOJ1nJH9KBxBxNk7Dk8xMPxfnfGzPWyUqwLyeBofSdTxTmWf+An 6OiVeT4RLLIJadQbunJHhXZHq7sdOH7HKQ8SpvGSXC0/ZT1XAPOjf6swBBC0LRWS Rb8wlPCy4zs= =cKVs -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Proposed SS#/Federal Job Licensing DOS Attack
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On another subject entirely... I have naturally been concerned about the Feds' proposal to set up a national job licensing system. In order to protect us from hordes of illegals, they have suggested that employers be required to check SS#-True Name matches before employment could begin. This amounts to requiring federal permission for the 55 million annual job changes. Initially, it is supposed to be restricted to checking SS# validity, name match, and non multiple use. Later (as with driver's licenses) they will add restrictions having to do with tax compliance, child support compliance, library fine compliance, etc. After all, we wouldn't want tax evading, deadbeat dad, library scofflaws working in Amerika, would we? This suggests am interesting Denial of Service (DOS) attack. If you published your own or others' SS#-True Name pairs on a public forum (currently completely legal BTW), multiple use could be encouraged, the TrueNames would become unemployable, and interesting litigation would result. If done enough, systemic breakdown would occur. I am anxious to see the regs (they are just at the talking stage) to see how they handle "exceptions" like thus. DCF "Who in spite of the fact that he has changed jobs since November 1986, has yet to fill out an I-9 form. He *loves* contract employment."

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Re: Fight, or Roll Over?
by terrell＠sam.neosoft.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Doug Barnes wrote:> >This means, for those not reading between the lines, doing something >more than online ranting and petition-signing, such as getting out the >checkbook and supporting those who are organized to fight these things, >and actually getting off the dime and doing things like writing letters, >sending telegrams, and otherwise harassing our elected beings through >media that they understand (since, clearly, they _don't_ understand >the Internet -- if they did, they wouldn't propose legislation like this.) > >Yes, the "bad guys" can crank out unfriendly legislation faster than >the "good guys" can fight it, but since we are clearly not ready to offer >technological solutions this month, the "good guys" act as a valuable >brake on this current swing of the pendulum. > Cypherpunks can do more by being cypherpunks. Your keyboards are better weapons than checkbooks in this case. Why isn't PGP so simple that every luzer on AOL will use it without thinking? Why hasn't the NetScape key been broken? Prove these proposed laws are just as silly and ineffective as they look by demonstrating it. Lots of people will attack these laws on legal grounds, and you should too if your conscience so moves you, but very few have the capabilities to attack them on technical grounds where their vulnerabilities are real, not just a matter of opinion. Buford C. Terrell 1303 San Jacinto Street Professor of Law Houston, TX 77002 South Texas College of Law voice (713)646-1857 terrell(a)sam.neosoft.com fax (713)646-1766

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by Michael Froomkin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In message <Pine.ULT.3.91.950713200640.19067A-100000(a)krypton.mankato.msus.edu> "Robert A. Hayden" writes: [major cuts everywhere] > > I've received about a dozen requests to clarify my rant earlier about > what I think needs to be done about the future of the CPs and the net, > now that the official declaration of war has been made by the government. Let's all take a deep breath here. If the Grassley bill becomes law, this sort of talk may have merit. At this stage, it's too strong. So far the only declaration made is by one or more Senators, not "the government". > 2) PUSH FOR UNIVERSAL DIGITAL SIGNATURES > In my version of utopia, all digital messages are signed. Unfortunately, > right now, there are no mechanisms in place to achieve that. Sadly, the American Bar Association project that is writing model legislation for this has been delayed. A public discussion draft, which should really move the ball forward, is not going to happen until after our next meeting in August. Expect something published on the web in mid-September. Model legislation is needed to sort out liability issues, for example, without which large companies are afraid to enter the business. -- Michael Froomkin until Aug 6: michael(a)umlaw.demon.co.uk U.Miami School of Law London, England mfroomki(a)umiami.ir.miami.edu <-- this will still find me PO Box 248087 Coral Gables, FL 33124-8087 Rain. Sun. Rain. Sun. Rain. -- Michael Froomkin until Aug 6: michael(a)umlaw.demon.co.uk U.Miami School of Law London, England mfroomki(a)umiami.ir.miami.edu <-- this will still find me PO Box 248087 Coral Gables, FL 33124-8087 Rain. Sun. Rain. Sun. Rain.

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Minnesota Cypherpunks Meeting
by Robert A. Hayden 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I mentioned this before and there seemed to be support, but I wanted to bring it up again hoping somebody in the cities can grab the ball and run with it (I doubt y'all wanna drive to Mankato :-) Anybody wanna plan for a Minnesota CP Physical meeting sometime soon? Maybe on Friday the 28th or something? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP Signed with PineSign 1.0 iQCVAwUBMAatLjokqlyVGmCFAQEutgQAmNL494sDhzzGXw2M/RW3PvmOYruv1cwA PesJpE31LDr5S2i4Qi+59/LDkv2FY9Ut90FfrQj8dNtwF1CvFQUcEFIZrMpApsK9 O+/vUkO7Q4DZ0vXrYvSbpKY/03mqy7dvWKCY1d/wFc4Il8G/GgdHvASavHEKv6At H5OICAkXM9M= =AfJm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> Cthulhu Matata \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> hayden(a)krypton.mankato.msus.edu \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> http://att2.cs.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden

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Russians seek expert help
by Michael Froomkin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A collegue from Russia sent me an email that I expert (with permission): Forwarded message follows: > Upon my return to Russia I have met with > one of the best information protection & computer > data security firms in Russia. They have > their own developments in the field of computer > security and, noteably, the special journal > devoted to the cryptography and other information > protection technics as well as legal aspects > of these technologies. It is the single and thus > best publication of this kind in Russia. > > They have asked me to help them to get in > touch with western specialists in the field > of law & information technology protection. > They would be happy to publish some articles (translations, > of course) and find other ways of cooperation. > > I suggest that either you personally or colleagues > of yours would be interested in communicating > on these matters with Russian specialists. > > Their contact e-mail is hotline(a)confident.spb.su > You may address the message to Petr Kuznetsov, > he is a director of this firm. > > cc: Peter Kouznetsov > -- Michael Froomkin until Aug 6: michael(a)umlaw.demon.co.uk U.Miami School of Law London, England mfroomki(a)umiami.ir.miami.edu <-- this will still find me PO Box 248087 Coral Gables, FL 33124-8087 Rain. Sun. Rain. Sun. Rain.

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Re: Anti-Electronic Racketeering Act of 1995 (fwd)
by Andrew.Spring＠ping.be 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 15:28:25 -0400 >Subject: Anti-Electronic Racketeering Act of 1995 > > > "(2) to distribute computer software that encodes or encrypts > electronic or digital communications to computer networks that the > person distributing knows, or reasonably should know, is accessible to > foreign nationals and foreign governments, regardless of whether such > software has been designated nonexportable." Christ, these guys are so predictable. What do want to bet that the last clause of that paragraph was put in, just so it could be taken out? Netscape, Apple, Novell et al testify before Congress; complain that their crippled crypto has already been approved for export; they'll lose so much money in sales, blah blah blah. Grassley smiles for the camera, says "I'm a reasonable man", strikes out the last clause. Isn't democracy wonderful? -- Thank you VERY much! You'll be getting a Handsome Simulfax Copy of your OWN words in the mail soon (and My Reply). <Andrew.Spring(a)ping.be> PGP Print: 0529 C9AF 613E 9E49 378E 54CD E232 DF96 Thank you for question, exit left to Funway.

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Re: The MoJo Wire thanks you
by Jeffrey Barth 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am not sure if you realize that this discussion is appearing all over the place. I am somewhat interested in this conversation, but not really. ================================================================== Potomac Interactive Corporation ------------------------------------------------------------------ E-mail: jbarth(a)picnet.com Voice: 703.276.0181 Fax: 703.276.2981 ================================================================== On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, Nicholas Samuels wrote: > With this message, you also included a note from silversh(a)rmmi.com, > wishing to "unsubscribe." Since I don't administer your listserv, you > might want to do something with that. > > On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, Joel B. Truher wrote: > > > Thank you for your help in our beta test! Please come back soon, > > and send me mail if you'd like to be removed from this mailing > > list -- we may send a new Web product announcement every few months, > > and you'll soon receive a survey of your opinion of our site. > > > > More info on The MoJo Wire: > > > > > > "More fun than a secret decoder ring!" > > -- Jim Hightower > > > > "Mother Jones magazine is turning the tables [on Gingrich]" > > -- LA Times > > > > Mother Jones is pleased to announce the official release of our > > redesigned WWW site, now called The MoJo Wire, on July 14th, at: > > > > http://motherjones.com > > > > * See Newt Gingrich's secret list of major funders on our "Coin- > > Operated Congress" feature. Gingrich is fighting the FEC in > > court to keep this information secret, but you can see it here > > for the first time. See the ten worst, the ten richest, the > > dirt on all of them, and help complete this interactive > > investigation project. > > > > * Newly revamped on-line chat software, called Live Wire, > > provides the best Web-based political discussions anywhere. > > Create hyperlinks in the words of others in this new feature, > > which already contains several lively debates. > > > > * The July/August issue of Mother Jones magazine is available > > only on The MoJo Wire. Read the full text of the magazine. > > > > Many thanks to our team of two thousand beta testers! With your > > help, we've worked a few of the last kinks out of the system, > > added a few things, and now offer the service password-free. > > > > For more information about The MoJo Wire, send mail to > > truher(a)mojones.com, or call me at 415-665-6637. > > > > Joel Truher > > Manager, The MoJo Wire > > > > > > >

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Free The World Web Server project.. :)
by The Gate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

15:57 EST July 14th, 1995 New Haven, CT. From the Yale Computer Center: Got an idea for y'all, from the heart and mind of Elizabeth Walker, with whom I live. Let's set up a web site where someone can submit a letter that will be automatically sent to every senator, congressperson, elected and appointed federal official. If we run into trouble, we can scale it down, narrow the various target areas... Also, we could write our own letters, post them, and if someone wants to resend it, they could do so at the click of the mouse. Example, someone logs on to the Freedom Speaks webserver, and is greeted by the message, "Welcome, enter your message for Federal officials in the box provided, then hit the submit button." "If you would like to submit one of our pre-written letters, just click on any of the ones you see below." For those without web access, we could set up a mailing list to do the same. I.e. to send a message to all our elected and appointed officials, send message to freetheworld(a)gateway.net. From there it gets spooled everywhere. What do you think? I could probably do it somehow, but someone with access to better resources and knowledge of cgi-bin might be better for the job. If anyone is interested in this project, let me know... R. Leland Lehrman ____________________________|||||||||||||||||||||______________________________ R. Leland Lehrman@The Gate, New Haven, CT. http://id.wing.net/~gate/gate.html God, Art, Technology and Ecology Research and Development >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Do you love the Mother?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Re: Free The World Web Server project.. :)
by Donald M. Kitchen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hooking up a mass mailer to congress seems like a bad idea to me, because they're really only interested in their constituants. If they start getting mass mailings, they might start thinking there's only one person or a small group of people "behind the curtain". Sending results of an e-petition, however, would be unobtrusive. A web page that mails a form letter to _your_ congressperson's form-letter-readers (ie staff readers) would be much better, IMHO. Don

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