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Re: An Overweening Faith in the Supreme Court
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Pan D.Modium" <pandemodium(a)nym.alias.net> writes: > In short, America has been sliding down the path to fascism at an > amazing pitch since the early 80's. Not once in history has a country > gone this far down the path to tyranny and turned back. America will > not be the first. Dunno about turning back but the U.S. does resemble in many ways Argentina in the '40's and '50's. (It resembles the U.S.S.R in the '70's in yet other ways. :-) So, can you think of a good country to move to, besides Israel? :-) --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL TAXATION OF ELECTRONIC COMMERCE
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:16 PM 2/21/97 -0500, Robert Hettinga wrote: >--- begin forwarded text ... >This symposium will consider a wide range of issues, including: > >**Differences in determining the electronic commerce income >tax base. Should source or residence rules be used, or should >some form of formulary apportionment be applied? > >**Problems in imposing retail sales taxes on electronic sales. >Should traditional nexus rules apply? > >**Problems in determining the value added by electronic >commercial inputs. Should a tax be determined based on the >'bits' of information? If so, should each 'bit' be valued the >same? > >**Problems involving the harmonization of tax rules. >International and sub-national aspects of this problem will be >considered. OECD efforts in this area will be contrasted with >proposed uniform state legislation in the US. > >**Throughout the symposium the impact that these tax decisions >will have on cross-border investment decisions will be a primary >concern. ... "Toll" tax. If each packet were "taxed" as it entered a system, and due to the nature of the internet, when traffic increases in certain areas, prices would go up, driving activity back down, then each area could "tax" what it wanted. The only real problem would be how to get people to pay. Unlike the toll booth at the entrance to a turnpike, internet users don't keep exact change. There is no window to roll down to hand the attendant the money, there is no accepted currency to hand the attendant either. Taxation can't really begin until e-cash equipped browsers are common. Plus, executables are fairly large, while text files tend to be small, adding a bias against executables, images, and audio files. In addition, since the packets have to originate from somewhere, the location of the poster would get to tax at least. Of course, if such a system were not mandatory in a region, then "freenets" would get a whole new meaning.

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Low-Risk Remailer Proposal
by Sergey Goldgaber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I would like to propose that persons wishing to run remailers but concerned about possible political reprecussions institute a policy of remailing only to other remailers. This would increase the total number of remailers, and decrease the chances that all or most of the available remailers are compromised. ............................................................................ . Sergey Goldgaber <sergey(a)el.net> System Administrator el Net . ............................................................................ . The path of least resistance leads to mediocrity. . ............................................................................ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: http://www.efh.org/pgp/pgpwork.html explains this signature. iQCVAwUBMw+7PMgbnd/MibbZAQFbOQQAo95fuNed1BF8wyDd0cut1yNrksg+kX3S uW8YbnLHPZI4lctrSxs99L75Y1yxK3Q2+jijeWevnf9qfzIAItAEzxbANIFdoiZo yYhoz/DdUvLepDPZc1t4owuNFcVs6EEBg++FrUxPsShp2SUGEOJ4yRO4p9lkTVkM 5mUBCGtJngo= =UlcG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: IDEA/Strength?
by E. Allen Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com" "Bill Stewart" 22-FEB-1997 03:05:51.28 >At 04:21 PM 2/21/97 -0500, Alec wrote: >>Is the strength, or lack thereof, of conventional PGP encryption >>proportional to the length of the conventional password? >Sure, up to 128 bits of entropy. Go check out pgpcrack. Another way to put it is that the length places a _maximum_ on the entropy; no more than 7 bits (unless PGP's interface can deal with control/etcetera keys) minus a fractional bit (for characters like delete) per character. Of course, simply expanding a passphrase of "a" to "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" won't do you much good... but most non-pathological passphrases will expand in entropy as they expand in length. (There is the consideration, however, that a lengthy passphrase may need to be in alphabetical characters, as opposed to alphanumeric, due to human memory limitations. If you didn't/don't have that, then even a completely random over-19-character long passphrase (enough to be more than 128 effective bits going in) could be of assistance; greater length makes it more likely that someone observing you will miss enough of the passphrase to make a search impractical.) -Allen

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Re: It is time to break Authenticode
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:09 PM 2/23/97 -0500, lucifer Anonymous Remailer wrote: >Microsoft's recent arrogant and irresponsible reply to the Chaos >Computer Club hack on ActiveX requires response. An effective response >would be to steal the key of a major code signer and produce a signed, >malicious ActiveX control. Such an attack would demonstrate the >serious problems of Microsoft's security philosophy. > [trim] > >The best avenue of attack is stealing the secret key of a respected >code signer. The target should be one of the major players, if not >Microsoft itself. Someone is sloppy to store their secret key on a >machine hooked to the Internet. Stealing it would be a very nice >challenge. It should be doable. I can think of an easier way. If the goal is simply to demonstrate that the system can be broken, how about offering a not-insignificant amount of money to anonymous person who manages to successfully get code signed? No exposure is necessary, just the signature done once. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: Photos Digitized and Theyre Done Dirt Cheap!
by Evan Platt (IN3501) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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IDEA/Strength?
by camcc＠abraxis.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Is the strength, or lack thereof, of conventional PGP encryption proportional to the length of the conventional password? For example, when I encrypt conventionally, does it make any difference internally (disregarding the ability to guess the password) if I choose to use the pass phrase heyyou, or [Harris$Pizza*Axis/LilburnKfreakmaisUoui@(. Not so much the randomness of my password as the length? Do more characters give the encryption process more to work with? Thanks. Alec -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.5 Comment: Public key available on request or from keyservers. iQCVAgUBMw4RtCKJGkNBIH7lAQEDmwP/WANzYA3KVyL5yNyE02hYotMgR6EKPxIm Q4hP5TiZzAve29CMc972Udeb1BJU9Ow6slHbpoLREH1qlWWqNpzO3YS6X5nYrXDM NeEf4sCTxkZ/33u48rv4T0ZD69/JGQV11/GMbsI3wJjCKW57Fb8cE8ANj4dDWblm 6spqX6YDecQ= =/AVU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Global Encryption Policy
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mike Cobb's and Peter Gutmann's tales of mixed signals from UK and NZ security agencies on exporting crypto demonstrate the same conflicting policies of their nations' governments as do the travails of Zimmermann, Bernstein, Karn and Junger with the USG -- lacking clear regulations, the agencies try bluff and obfuscation. The US move to clarify and tighten regulations in recent ITAR and EAR amendments surely will be emulated by other nations, as promised by The Wassenaar Arrangement. It is part of the major shift of responsibility for dual-use items from national security agencies to those handling economic security, and the guidelines are not as black and white for commerce as they are for state -- or at least not as yet strictly codified, regulated and enforced. However, what is happening with crypto is happening with a wide range of dual-use items, as the half-century old national security policy undergoes a transformation into economic security policy, with the pervasive impact on subsidiary procedures and regulations in security, armaments, intelligence, research, invention, manufacturing, law, finance, politics, education and so on. Note that the World Trade Organization is supplanting the United Nations as a forum for dispute resolution (NY Times, 18 February 1997). For more on these State-into-Commerce policy deliberations see: The GAO/NSIAD report "Exporting Dual-Use Items," 14 January 1997: http://jya.com/9724.htm Export Administration Regulations, with related presidential orders and agency rules and regulations: http://jya.com/eartoc.htm Bert-Jaap's site and a 1996 State Department address on The Wassenaar Arrangement: http://jya.com/dos012396.txt The Defense Trade News from January 1993 to October 1995 on the shift of encryption items from the USML to the CCL: http://jya.com/dtn0193 (+ four) "Redefining Security," The Joint Security Commission's February 1994 report to DefSEc and DCI: http://jya.com/jcs.htm

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Re:
by Otto Matic 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:37:45 -0800 >From: "Timothy C. May" <tcmay(a)got.net> >To: shark(a)turk.net, cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Subject: "Trial" >At 8:02 PM +0200 2/19/97, Shark wrote: >>Trial > >OK, that makes 18 votes for "trial," 26 votes for "no trial," and 3 people >asking what the hell the vote is all about. Make that 4 what the hells. What the hell? this is the first I've seen of this post... I feel so left out. > >Looks like there won't be a trial and we can move directly to the punishment. > > >--Klaus! von Future Prime > > > >-- >[This Bible excerpt awaiting review under the U.S. Communications Decency >Act of 1996] >And then Lot said, "I have some mighty fine young virgin daughters. Why >don't you boys just come on in and fuck them right here in my house - I'll >just watch!"....Later, up in the mountains, the younger daughter said: >"Dad's getting old. I say we should fuck him before he's too old to fuck." >So the two daughters got him drunk and screwed him all that night. Sure >enough, Dad got them pregnant, and had an incestuous bastard son....Onan >really hated the idea of doing his brother's wife and getting her pregnant >while his brother got all the credit, so he pulled out before he >came....Remember, it's not a good idea to have sex with your sister, your >brother, your parents, your pet dog, or the farm animals, unless of course >God tells you to. [excerpts from the Old Testament, Modern Vernacular >Translation, TCM, 1996] > > > otto =-=-=-=-=- Otto Matic "Fuckin' A, Miller!" Bud, Repo Man --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------

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Re:
by Otto Matic 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:37:45 -0800 >From: "Timothy C. May" <tcmay(a)got.net> >To: shark(a)turk.net, cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Subject: "Trial" >At 8:02 PM +0200 2/19/97, Shark wrote: >>Trial > >OK, that makes 18 votes for "trial," 26 votes for "no trial," and 3 people >asking what the hell the vote is all about. Make that 4 what the hells. What the hell? this is the first I've seen of this post... I feel so left out. > >Looks like there won't be a trial and we can move directly to the punishment. > > >--Klaus! von Future Prime > > > >-- >[This Bible excerpt awaiting review under the U.S. Communications Decency >Act of 1996] >And then Lot said, "I have some mighty fine young virgin daughters. Why >don't you boys just come on in and fuck them right here in my house - I'll >just watch!"....Later, up in the mountains, the younger daughter said: >"Dad's getting old. I say we should fuck him before he's too old to fuck." >So the two daughters got him drunk and screwed him all that night. Sure >enough, Dad got them pregnant, and had an incestuous bastard son....Onan >really hated the idea of doing his brother's wife and getting her pregnant >while his brother got all the credit, so he pulled out before he >came....Remember, it's not a good idea to have sex with your sister, your >brother, your parents, your pet dog, or the farm animals, unless of course >God tells you to. [excerpts from the Old Testament, Modern Vernacular >Translation, TCM, 1996] > > > otto =-=-=-=-=- Otto Matic "Fuckin' A, Miller!" Bud, Repo Man --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------

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