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Re: Remailers run by spooks
by Just Rich 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, Anonymous (or so he thinks!) wrote: > >Both presenters explicitly acknowledged that a number of anonymous > >remnailers in the US are run by government agencies scanning traffic. > >Marlow said that the government runs at least a dozen remailers and that > >the most popular remailers in France and Germany are run by the > >respective government agencies in these countries. In addition they > >mentioned that the NSA has successfully developed systems to break > >encrypted messages below 1000 bit of key length and strongly suggested > >to use at least 1024 bit keys. They said that they semselves use 1024 > >bit keys. > > I don't know about everyone else, but I consider this, if true, to be a > MAJOR worry. It never ceases to amaze me how lightly the government takes > lying to the people. Unfortunately I don't have the contacts or resources > to do any further investigation, I hope this thread is resolved one way or > another soon. Yeah, didn't you know that Sameer was on the CIA payroll? How do you think he paid for his new Ferrari? I have no doubt that the CIA can break 1000-bit keys on a case-by-case basis, *if they decide to allocate the resources*. I think it's possible that some remailers are run by spooks. However, I seriously doubt that anyone is breaking stuff routinely, and I think the web of trust is pretty good. Of course, the CIA had Ames... the reverse could easily be true. However, I also have no doubt that Strassmann and Marlow are spreading disinformation and exaggerating their capabilities in an attempt to break the web of trust and incite a witch hunt. It won't work. The answer in any case is more use of remailers, not less. Just turn up the noise level. You already know that nothing is 100% secure, but you do what you can. It's a war of attrition. - -rich - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMTp7ayoZzwIn1bdtAQFJXgGAg8I4+IwZYrDI46bMj2nED+Dh0AeoMJVs PP10Ui5u46sXDAUjpMzJSwv5EqdIOEKy =611k -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Encryption Policy in the Spotlight At Free-Market.Net
by freematt＠coil.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "Free-Market.Net" <chris(a)free-market.net> Subject: FMNews: Encryption Spotlight, Deadline for Drawing Free-Market.Net News Announcement --------------------------------- In this update: * Encryption Policy in the Spotlight * Spooky Deadline for Lifetime Membership Give-Away Encryption Policy in the Spotlight ---------------------------------- <http://www.free-market.net/features/spotlight/> If you're a little unclear about the difference between 56-bit and 128-bit encryption keys, or the difference between the U.S. government's Clipper Chip and their key escrow plan, come check out the Policy Spotlight. This month's issue gives a basic overview of the science and politics of encryption, and then offers a couple dozen kilobytes of links for more information. We recommend free-market materials from the likes of the Cato Institute, Reason Magazine, HotWired, Forbes, David Friedman, Phil Zimmerman, and Free-Market.Net advisor Bill Frezza. There's also some anti-encryption materials, for you serious students with a strong stomach. And if you're feeling adventurous, there are some fun links like the one that lets you become an international arms trafficker with the click of a button (by sending code for an encryption program to a server overseas). J.D. Tuccille has contributed a Media Spotlight called "Frustrating the Snoops." As happens oh-so-rarely, the mass media seems to be on our side on this one. As J.D. writes, "The personal stake that journalists have in protecting free speech and keeping secrets pretty much made it a given that once they grasped the concept, they'd become big fans -- and users -- of encryption.... Now, if we could only get more reporters to run small businesses, shoot and ride motorcycles without helmets." Come check out the Policy Spotlight at: <http://www.free-market.net/features/spotlight/>. After you do, hop on over to the Free-Market Forum on encryption, and hop on the soapbox yourself. Spooky Halloween Deadline for Lifetime Membership Give-Away ----------------------------------------------------------- <http://www.free-market.net/features/lottery/> When the clock strikes midnight on Halloween -- October 31 -- you'd better be registered to win this month's free lottery, or else... or else... you can *not* win! I'm sorry to scare you like that, but it's true. Friday is the deadline for entries in this month's drawing for a free lifetime membership in Free-Market.Net. One of you will win this special membership next week. (And it is special, even donors that have given $1,000 or more don't have lifetime memberships.) Although membership doesn't give you access to any information that isn't open to the public, it does give you some special benefits. As a member, you could receive fully-customized reports with the new events, home pages, contests, jobs, etc. that are of interest to you. You would also get a permanent e-mail alias, like <Galt(a)Free-Market.Net>; and a home page on the Free-Market.Net Web site. These are just some of the tangible membership benefits -- as a member you can participate in the Free-Market.Net community and help shape how we promote free-market ideas online. Stop by <http://www.free-market.net/about/members.html> for more info on memberships and how to join, and stop by <http://www.free-market.net/features/lottery/> to sign-up for the lottery. Remember, even if you have entered a lottery before, you still need to register to win each month. It's no big deal. It just requires your e-mail address and approximately 33.5 seconds. Yours in Liberty, Chris P.S. We're lining up a fun lottery prize for next month. Laissez Faire Books is going to offer an autographed 25th anniversary edition of "It Usually Begins with Ayn Rand" by Jerome Tuccille (J.D.'s dad). Sorry to gush, but I absolutely love this book. It's a semi-fictionalized history of the modern libertarian movement in the 60's and early 70's. Real fun stuff. Chris Whitten <mailto:chris@free-market.net> Free-Market.Net: The online database of the free-market movement. The Henry Hazlitt Foundation <http://www.hazlitt.org/> 401 N. Franklin, Suite 3E, Chicago, IL 60610 Become a Founding Member of Free-Market.Net! <http://www.free-market.net/about/members.html>

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Re: Why Jodi Hoffman must be called a 'Dumb Cunt' and told to 'Go Fuck Yourself' at all costs, by TruthMonger
by wabe 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

THE FOLLOWING IS AN OPINION, (this is a forged post anyway) So I read Jodi's lawsuit as it is posted on her web page. I'll post some interesting parts below. Keep in mind that I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one in cyberspace... Basically the lawsuit (supposably) is(was?) against a school board in Florida where Jodi sent her 3 children to middle school. Jodi seeks mucho casho for emotional damages she was inflicted by having to discover and fight the sex-ed class. Apparantly she originally was one of the mothers who opted her children out, but the school fumbled (or the child "forgot" to hand the paper back in) and they took the class anyways. After one day, she yanked the kids out of school for a week, and engaged on the legal battle we see here. She also seeks to shut down (or heavily amend) the sex ed class, along with the newspaper part of a civics class, and she wants more supervision of the children's internet access. As far as I can tell, oddly enough, the internet part of the case is the only part with any real merit. (She doesn't want her children using the internet at school to see pornography while she isn't watching.) That's reasonable, and the school could have someone watching (or claim to) to avoid it. There's a lot of whining about the "secular humanism" of the school which is entirely without merit and sounds foolish in the context of a legal paper. Selected interesting points are as follows: (claimed as the school board's damaging sex ed class. . .) c) giving inaccurate and incomplete information about HIV/AIDS transmission, by claiming students should not worry if their cut-free leg was splashed with HIV positive blood; How innaccurate is this? Do we have some "studies?" k) failing to emphasize abstinence from activity outside of marriage as the expected standard for all school-age children and failing to teach the benefits of monogamous hetero marriage; This is CRAZY! Not only does she want them to accept whatever she believes as the "expected standard" but she wants them to expound upon the glories of a boring sex life! :> l) failing to emphasize that abstinence is a certain way to avoid out-of-wedlock pregnancy, ly transmitted diseases, including acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS) and other associated health problems; abstinence was only briefly mentioned and then ridiculed at length; Not true! As claimed in her previous points (see 'bloody leg' above) m) failing to respect the conscience and rights of parents and students; respect is a hard thing to measure, and is often something EARNED. n) in addition, the opt out letter failed to fully and properly advise parents of the nature and content of the lecture so that parents could meaningfully decide to let their children opt out or attend the lecture; Actually has some merit. (Then the school board showed a laser disk purchased from the "homosexual propagandizer" ABC which...) c.) failing to promote an awareness of the benefits of abstinence, by failing to equip students with abstinence decision-making techniques; That last phase is just funny! e.) promoting a secular humanist philosophy by teaching children that they alone should decide when to become ly active; hmmm.... (Now they have the GALL to buy some newspapers and provide them to the children....these newspapers:) a.) favoring, justifying, promoting, condoning and/or providing biased, inaccurate and incomplete information about homo , by failing to discuss adverse mental, physical and emotional consequences of engaging in homo behavior and not discussing the changeability of orientation; If they had advised the students that some of them could, if they wanted, become homosexuals, would that have been more proper? d.) failing to teach monogamous, hetero marriage as the expected standard to prevent ly transmitted diseases and unwanted pregnancy; HAHAHA, isn't homosexual marriage a better way of avoiding pregnancy? Then Jodi objects to some newspapers being shown in geography class which contain an "adult" advertisement section (aparantly) Here are the whole of her objections to this particular point: a.) providing inappropriate material as part of curriculum (one ad for an adult video store invites customers to bring their wife, girlfriend, boyfriend or all three); b.) providing material that does not promote core values; c.) providing material which does not promote the contributions made by women to society, such as ads for sex-for-sale businesses; d.) failing to promote an awareness of the benefits of abstinence and the consequences of teenage pregnancy; e.) failing to teach monogamous hetero marriage as the standard; f.) failing to teach respect for family and marriage; g.) failing to promote a moral society; h.) encouraging early activity of children; i.) contributing to the delinquency of minors by encouraging activity. Those were very funny! She is a comic in the classic Milk and Cheese sense! I especially loved c) which claims that ads for sex for sale businesses are contributions made by women to society! I wholeheartedly disagree! How can she be sure the ads were placed and created by WOMEN!? Couldn't a man have made the ads? Other problems Jodi had with sex ed were: a.) giving inaccurate, incomplete or biased information about masturbation, by teaching there is no evidence that it is emotionally harmful, when there is substantial evidence to the contrary; k.) failing to encourage respect for parents as authority figures by telling children they can make decisions without consulting or relying on parents' advice; l.) establishing a secular humanist philosophy by teaching, for example, that children are in charge of their bodies and are free to make decisions based on what they feel is the right thing to do at the time and by excluding parents and other adults from decision-making processes; Further explainations follow: 42. The actions of Defendant in paragraphs 25-28 , 30-32 and 34-40 were outrageous, intentional and/or reckless and were intended to cause plaintiff JODI HOFFMAN severe emotional distress and as a result of said acts, Plaintiff suffered severe distress. 43. Plaintiff suffered an inability to sleep properly, met with the publisher of the Miami Herald to ask that the ads be removed from the schools, and suffered other emotional injury, loss and distress, became anxious, worried about the safety and morals of her children as a result of Defendant's conduct. She then whines about the word "orientation" being added to the school's policy of anti-discrimination because "the undefined class known simply as " orientation" appears to protect persons who could pose a threat to the health and safety of students, impair the right of the school board to reject applications for employment based on good cause and who, under 231.02 (1), may not be of good moral character." Among the many things she demands are: (m.) Order that the school board institute a balanced comprehensive health curricula, one that emphasizes abstinence until marriage and fidelity within marriage, (5) Money damages for Defendant's intentional infliction of emotional distress on Plaintiff parent and for the loss of educational opportunity to Plaintiff's minor children. Summery: I WISH I could say that she was only going after the money. In this case, that would be a severe case of moral improvement. Specific phrases jump out of her case ("failing to promote a moral society") that nail her down as a Fundamentalist Christian with an agenda, using the Law as one arm of her attack. She ranks up there with those terrorists in Texas who filed liens against practically everyone, in my opinion.

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SynCrypt: the new PGP?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anybody heard of syncrypt? www.syncrypt.com It is like pgp but has lots of cool features. File wiping, group encryption, automatic encryption of files put in certain directories. Get this, hiding encrypted files in pictures! Automatically. It pulls them back out again too. Plus it has an interesting "20 questions" method for backing up your passphrase. If you forget your passphrase you have to answer 25 of 27 questions like "who was your favorite teacher" to get it back. Bruce Schneier is working with them, so they should have good crypto. It has blowfish, des and triple des, and idea. The keys are el gamal. Problem is the freeware is crippled to 10 encryptions (unlimited decryptions). $50 for full functions. Is this the new pgp? No gak or even cak in sight. SynMonger

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Re: Why porn must be stopped at all costs, by Jodi Hoffman
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Declan "Socrates" McCullagh wrote: >[Wow. First time I've ever been personally accused of being "a major >reason for the downward spiral of society." --Declan] > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 11:53:27 -0500 >From: Jodi Hoffman <jlhoffm(a)ibm.net> >To: fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu >Subject: Why porn must be stopped at all costs..... > >ALL: >I've forgotten how long I've been on this email list. Maybe too long. > >Try as I might, I cannot forget standing on the steps of the Supreme >Court building with my husband and 10 year old daughter in the >freezing drizzle. I really thought we could make a difference, >standing there with our banner and signs, one of which read, "DON'T >SACRIFICE MY CHILD ON THE ALTAR OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT." Stupid me. >As the saying goes...we've come a long way, baby. > >As I wander back through all the posts on this list, it finally dawns >on me what this is all about, this 'fight censorship' rhetoric. It's >nothing more and nothing less than a lot of egotistical, self-serving >brats who absolutely refuse to grow up, including you, Declan. Don't >you realize that YOU are a major reason for the downward spiral of >society? Instead of trying to protect children, you want to empower >them. Even a moron knows that when you do so, that power has to be >taken from someone. Unfortunately, that someone is the parent. I >have to ask myself just how many on this list have children. Not >many, I would say. Hoffman's claim that she is unable to control what her child sees is weak. It's easy enough keep kids off the Net. It's easy to buy software that only reveals approved parts of the Net. So what is it about our Constitution that Hoffman finds so offensive? It certainly doesn't harm her own child. If we were to be charitable, we would say that she is concerned about other people's children seeing pornography. The only problem is, that the parents of these children are just as able as she is to control their involvement with the Net. Yet, apparently, she is unhappy with the choices these parents are making and wishes to overrule them. At best, this is inconsistent with her claim that she believes parents should decide what their own children see. If we were to be accurate, instead of charitable, we would observe that it is most likely that Hoffman is offended by pornography in general, no matter who sees it. For instance, this statement refers to an adult, not a child: "So, keep protecting your porn-induced orgasms." Rather than stating her beliefs openly and honestly, she is hiding behind children, particularly her own child, to put promote her outrageous, unconstitutional, and un-American totalitarian policies. (Hoffman may not even be completely conscious of her own motivations. Often, this sort of person begins with an agenda, and then works him or herself up into a rage using other reasons for the justification, somewhat reminiscent of the "Two Minute Hate" sessions described in Orwell's "1984".) I said a few days ago that people who would use the excuse of protecting children to promote their own twisted agenda are the lowest of the low. Hoffman is, I believe, a perfect example. I pity her child. This is also a good example of why the use of remailers is advisable. It lowers the odds that some whacko will come after you with an axe. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNF5DqZaWtjSmRH/5AQEoXAf+Ie7zmRl8+PJRZbrFILK7crgyCPZX6LRw tVctKgWgmGlAVWbCyNeAJj6Y3AqBF1gwzhcSkY9OBMmcBYXEf23xi+5UkipD4rJ7 3QGDapph7F94tWzsSeO2NzTVUadawoE7bNl5lL5SaBjXoPpBkH96OAxHJ6zgobAA K/6z3QBeEDrUeP7pHmmBBVY6X3Z5b8CJGhuqP/gMifl2RsvU/xvFz6LWtRkzR389 zs0UsqDxKQ3yH8Bjdt85dVsyiwSzrLFjQVLNO2JNvOQDgwMpusB4KnMcgp13vgm4 xZ0j9y2EJBgekNwb0sC35BWkACZOuJSSG4bMGuWZR7NP3O/YaV19EA== =zPYs -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Another Motivation for the CDA
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Given that Sen. Fineswine is one of the strongest supporters of gun confiscation, and that she had this to say about the Telecom Bill: "Sen. Feinstein (D-CA) Mrs. Feinstein: Mr. President, I rise in support of the conference report for the Telecommunications Act of 1995. This legislation establishes real progress on important issues and I am pleased to provide my support. Senator Exon's provisions to control access to indecent materials will require the operators of computer networks, like America Online, to screen out indecent materials for children." I think we need to look at another motive, or at least another effect, of the CDA's felonization of "indecent" speech (uttering the words "fuck" or "shit," or doing a large number of other such things, where any minor could possibly see these words, is a felony. Not a misdemeanor, a _felony_. No felon may own a gun legally in California, for some period of time after conviction. I presume similar laws apply in other states. (Of course, a lot of real criminals own all sorts of guns, but at least the "indecent speakers" will have their existing guns removed from them and will be unable to buy new ones for some number of years after their convictions.) Therefore, one think to think about is that a felony conviction for violation of the CDA will result in one being disarmed (of the ones they know about). Duncan Frissell frequently regales us with tales of how he has made himself "judgment-proof." More power to him, but it doesn't make me feel any better. Fineswine, Schroeder, and similar such vermin have probably figured out that by felonizing dirty words they have another tool to use in the disarming of America. When nearly everyone is a criminal, in the eyes of the law, then the populace is well and truly under their thumbs. The good news is that I can probably get off of jury duty pretty simply by saying "But I'm a felon." (Even if they ask for details, about my conviction, merely by explaining why I answered this way I'll doubtless be excused.) Of course, I haven't been called for jury duty and actually had to report for selection since 1973, so I must be in their file of Undesirables already. --Tim May, a fucking felon Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: PGP Employee on MKR
by mark＠unicorn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Kent Crispin wrote: >Words fail me. This is completely idiotic. Indeed. It's just as idiotic as people being killed for receiving encrypted mail in Iraq. It is, however, just as possible, and anyone who believes the contrary obviously hasn't worked for a big company before; I've seen them do far, far, more idiotic things in the past. Mark

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Re: Doubts about Smith legislation (Falk & Allberry)
by Igor Chudov ＠ home 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In news.groups, Cipher <cipher(a)mindspring.com> wrote: * In article <62oshu$pov(a)news1.panix.com> Information Security, * The(a)NSA.sucks writes: * >To further rub in things, the UCENET II proponents are coming * >out with a "munging FAQ" that lists three times as many * >"reasons" not to munge versus to munge. * > * >What a bunch of assholes. * > * >On top of that, Mozena couldn't even state in plain English * >in the CFV for comp.org.cauce that it will require your * >real email address to post...it just kinda mumbles it * >while talking about robomoderation and tokens. * > * >Someone should give Mozena a hard kick in the balls. Let us give the anti-privacy, anti-munging, and anti-anonymity proponents a collective kick in the ass by voting against comp.org.cauce in its present form. To get a ballot and vote, send email to bostwick(a)cas.chemistry.gatech.edu and ask him for comp.org.cauce ballot. -- - Igor.

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Re: [LONG, off-topic]] Interactive Programming
by Brandon Crosby 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > LISP programmers are much more into writing programs which > > build and execute routines on the fly. > > As are some perl programmers. As both a perl programmer and a lisp > programer I have never had the need to use self modifing code. In fact I > would consider haveing to use s-m code as a sine that I have made a > mistate in my desinge. > PERL is a pretty high-level language... how do you add sub's after running the code? -Brandon Crosby

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I Broke PGP!!!
by Jon Callas 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sorry... Jon ----- Jon Callas jon(a)pgp.com Chief Scientist 555 Twin Dolphin Drive Pretty Good Privacy, Inc. Suite 570 (415) 596-1960 Redwood Shores, CA 94065 Fingerprints: D1EC 3C51 FCB1 67F8 4345 4A04 7DF9 C2E6 F129 27A9 (DSS) 665B 797F 37D1 C240 53AC 6D87 3A60 4628 (RSA)

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