February 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Shuttle Diplomacy
by Tyler Durden 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

Well, one little trick I learned from the natives from living in China is to see what's being denied the most vehemently. If, over the next few days, they keep saying "It's not a missle, it's not a missle", then you KNOW it's a fuckin missle. (It worked a little differently in China...if they thought Deng Xiao Peng and whoever was having a lot of political friction, they'd wait to see if there were lots of pictures in the papers of those two guys shaking hands. Then they'd know the rumors were confirmed.) Another sign to look for is the "doublethink" sign...if some theory is being discussed that seems pretty important but then a few days later there's absolutely no more mention of it, then that's a real good candidate for the truth. -TD >From: Thomas Shaddack <shaddack(a)ns.arachne.cz> >To: <cypherpunks(a)einstein.ssz.com> >Subject: Re: Shuttle Diplomacy >Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 03:59:13 +0100 (CET) > > > One of the current theories floating around has to do with a piece of >debris > > that flew off the booster rocket during take-off and collided with the >left > > wing (where the problems began). The video of the take-off was reviewed >in > > great detail and it was determined that it was innocent, considering the > > proximity of the problems and the debris there appears to be at least > > something worth investigating. > >According to Slashdot, the ground control started to lose data from >shuttle's sensors; first from the back of the left wing, then spreading >forward, then all the shuttle went dead. Sounds like a structural damage. >The takeoff damage could've been a contributing factor; one single >slightly loosened tile can be deadly in such speeds. > >I just hope they won't mothball the ISS... _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Shuttle Diplomacy
by Harmon Seaver 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

Interesting event, eh? Pretty well timed. They're already saying it wasn't a missle, which may be. Could have been a bomb tho -- pretty weird that it's the first problem they've ever had with a landing, and just happens to have the Israeli onboard. Over Texas too. If it weren't terrs, then it must be Allah warning the Great Satan to watch his step. Interesting too that Saddam's eldest son just warned that 9/11 would be a picnic compared to what will happen if the US invades. And then there's those 3,000 Iraqis the feebs said they were looking for.... -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

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Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums
by Tim May 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 07:58 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: > I'd love to see more and better train service in the US. Great way > to > travel, work, read, watch the scenery. I don't mind at all taking a > few days, > and, unless it's a real emergency, I'm very sure at this point I'll > never fly a > commercial airline again. By the way, if this has anything to do with the security hassles of air travel (someone, maybe you, mentioned it as well a day or so ago), don't count on this difference lasting for long. Already there are calls to use "positive identification" for all train travelers. "Amtrak also requires that each person buying a ticket has photo identification. "Passengers traveling between Boston and Washington DC can no longer purchase their tickets on board the train." <http://www.wokr13.tv/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=6D384AE3-F23C- 4E18-BACD-12A5E4A2F563> Expect more such moves. Expect much tighter security if and when a train is seized in the U.S. or Europe the way peace-loving Indians have been seizing trains and killing the occupants in peaceful India. (Securing entry points to trains will be even more difficult than with airplanes, for the obvious reasons. Ditto for securing transfer of weapons onto trains--in large amounts of baggage, through open windows, when people step off trains at many intermediate "whistle stops," etc.) The police state will extend to trains. Count on it. I don't know if this is your reason for expecting not to fly commercially again, but for anyone who thinks trains will somehow be exempted from the national security police state, think again. --Tim May

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ICBM's and space programs
by Sarad AV 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

hi, Would countries with an advanced space program and with capilities of launching satellites have ICBM capabilities.if yes can they be sucessfully launched with the knowledge that they can successfully launch medium range missiles (2000 to 3000 km range). Regards Sarath. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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A new website
by jon 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

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