February 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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03 Feb '03

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Re: "Touching shuttle debris may cause bad spirits to invade your body!"
by David Howe 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

at Monday, February 03, 2003 3:48 AM, Sunder <sunder(a)sunder.net> was seen to say: > Think upgrading of circuit boards. Remove old board, insert new > board for example. Leaving the old board circling around may not be > a good thing. Just for example. Yeah, makes sense. ok, I withdraw my objections to the conspiracy theory :)

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Re: "Touching shuttle debris may cause bad spirits to invade your body!"
by Mikko Särelä 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Sunder wrote: > Far more than likely, the truth is closer that the Space Shuttles have > been performing ultra sensitive spy work - launching new spy satelites, or > repairing them, and may have pieces of spy satelites on them. > > Let's see, we're going into war with Iraq, and we're sending up the > shuttle to do experiments on how furry weavols behave under zero > gravity... uh huh. Now why would they have spy satellites on board still when they are coming _down_? One might think that if such things were part of the mission they'd leave them up to spy, rather than bring them back down. -- Mikko "One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all And in the Darkness bind them."

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Re: Say goodbye to the ISS
by Bill Frantz 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

At 8:27 PM -0800 2/2/03, Steve Schear wrote: >As some friends in the U.S. space program had privately predicted, and the >New York Times is today reporting, unless the problem with the Shuttle can >be quickly identified and convincingly rectified to worried legislators, >the International Space Station may have to be moth balled and the NASA >manned space program put on hold. >http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/02/science/02cnd-stati.html I heard someone today suggesting that it was time to replace the shuttle. After all, it's 25 year old technology. I kind of expect a program to be proposed with all the usual reasons why it is "good for the country". ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Due process for all | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | used to be the Ameican | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)pwpconsult.com | way. | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: Say goodbye to the ISS
by Tim May 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 09:36 PM, Ralph Seberry wrote: > On Sunday, 02 Feb 2003 at 20:57, Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> wrote: >> (I am replying to the CP list, but suppressing the name of the poster. >> He/she sent his/her comments to a "recipient list suppressed" private >> distribution. If people send me comments, don't expect to me to just >> take them in silence. I will, however, suppress the author unless and >> until too many such private distributions occur.) > > Steve Schear sent the email to cypherpunks(a)lne.com > without any attempt to disguise the sender. The full headers below are how I received the message:

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Re: "Real Facts" and "Good Facts"
by Bill Frantz 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

At 12:26 PM -0800 2/2/03, Eric Cordian quoted: >In another teletext moment on CNN, the shuttle was described as traveling >at "Mock 18." We mach (sic) their idiocy. Cheers - Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Due process for all | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | used to be the Ameican | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)pwpconsult.com | way. | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: Say goodbye to the ISS
by Harmon Seaver 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 08:27:06PM -0800, Steve Schear wrote: > I can't imagine that it would be so difficult to construct a small, > remotely-controlled, gyro stabilized, tethered probe that would be carried > on all shuttle missions and could be deployed from the cargo bay to closely > inspect the exterior of the craft for possible damage. Even if the shuttle > could not be immediately repaired, it could be somehow moored at some part > of the station and left there till a repair mission could be effected or > perhaps sacrificed by a controlled burn re-entry over an unpopulated area > of the earth as some satellites have already ended their days. In any case > astronauts would then not need to "live-test" a possibly damaged shuttle as > those on Columbia did Saturday. If they had thought there was damage, couldn't they have just done a tethered space walk to look at it? I thought space walks were a normal practice on both the shuttle and ISS. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

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Re: "Touching shuttle debris may cause bad spirits to invade your body!"
by Dave Howe 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Sunder wrote: > Let's see, we're going into war with Iraq, and we're sending up the > shuttle to do experiments on how furry weavols behave under zero > gravity... uh huh. Lothe though I am to shed doubt on your consipiracy theories - but the shuttle was on its way *down*. Why would they be bringing sooper Sekrit spy satellites back?

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Re: "Touching shuttle debris may cause bad spirits to invade your body!"
by Steve Thompson 02 Feb '03

02 Feb '03

--- Eric Murray <ericm(a)lne.com> wrote: > On Sun, Feb > I'm not sure which is more irritating-- the obvious > way in which > the govermedia manipulate the issue, or their > automatic assumption that > americans are too stupid/criminal to turn in all the > parts they > find if NASA just said "we need all the parts, > please bring 'em in". In part it seems it is because such a vast number of people in America have been so well served by the education system that the most effective way to coerce obedience is to invoke their fear of the unknown. I'm sure that the other part of the equation is that the government officials responsible for the cleanup feel they must take advantage of every oppourtunity to assert their authority; to make it impicit to every command/request. It is an insult to the intelligence, but to speak out in indignation invites the wrath of the low-level, insecure powers that be. Regards, Steve ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

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Apparently search warrants are not needed to enter property if NASA wants to
by Tim May 02 Feb '03

02 Feb '03

Watching some of the news coverage of the search (from the aptly named Palestine, Texas), it's clear that no search warrants are being gotten for the debris searchers to enter farms, yards, backyards, corporation lands, ranches, etc. The cameras show them simply vaulting fences and looking for anything they can find. When was the Fourth Amendment and "a man's home is his castle" suspended? If a property owner defends his borders with a shotgun, is he shipped to Camp X-Ray? Fuck this country. Fuck it dead. Osama, we beseech you!! --Tim May "The State is the great fiction by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else." --Frederic Bastiat

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