December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Theory of the Day!!
by vcarlos35＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

___Theory Of Everything___ Drumroll please... L. Deitweler is the same person as wombat.sympatico.ca. Send all flames, comments, replies, whatever... to me.

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Re: Theory of the Day!!
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

vcarlos35(a)juno.com wrote: > > ___Theory Of Everything___ > Drumroll please... > L. Deitweler is the same person as wombat.sympatico.ca. > > Send all flames, comments, replies, whatever... to me. Checked your headers. Turns out, the above is yesterday's theory. Nice try. L. Dietweler

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Re: [NEW] mixer@htp.org ( (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: harka(a)nycmetro.com > Date: 27 Oct 1997 15:06:04 EDT > Subject: Re: [NEW] mixer(a)htp.org ( > > Congrats for the new remailer and a related question: Are the > cypherpunks-e and cypherpunks-j lists now fully included into the > list-distribution from and to the other three nodes? > (The last thing I can recall was, that there were still some > problems with the distribution) cypherpunks-j is indipendent. cypherpunks-e recieves feeds from SSZ. There used to be a problem with traffic with blank subject: headers but recently haven't seen the problem. That was the only problem that I was aware of. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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No Subject
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

" If passed, the traditional hamfest flea markets where all sorts of bizzare old radio junk gets traded for cash or swapped for other gear will be largely a thing of the past, as almost all radio receivers and transcievers that hams and other electronic hackers might want to sell or trade will be seriously illegal, and one never knows who that anonymous cash customer really is..." The odds are very good that as technology increases the power & freedom of individuals to make an end run around the state that the state will increasingly make the effort to stop it. This could get really ugly in the future. Indeed, it has already, but most are not awake enough to notice. Devolution or the demise of the central power is a dangerous process to be caught up in. In the case of the fedgov, it has a lot of power to abuse and I expect that the latest encryption fight is just a warmup. If the crooks & criminals in the intelligensia can't get their way legally, then their only option is "any means possible." That covers a lot of territory. Insure youself against the state. The King likes it *his* way. A. From the Cyber-Jurisdiction

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Re:Choices
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Q: "If 1984 was so terrible, why didn't Winston just move to another > year? > A: "Duuhhh..." Q: "How would history have changed if Horatio Alger was black?" A: ???

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Re: PGP 5.5 available outside US
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Lucky Green wrote: > It seems that unknown Cypherpunks have yet again shown their disrespect of > US export laws by exporting the latest version of PGP. The Windows version > of PGP 5.5 is now available for your downloading pleasure at > ftp://ftp.replay.com/pub/crypto/incoming/PGP55.zip I installed it. It seems to automatically encrypt everything to Lucky. Hmmm...

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Strange Days Vol. 2
by doorlist＠doors.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

WELCOME to The Doors Collectors Magazines Strange Days News Emailer! Vol. 2 The Celebration has just begun: ----For removal instructions, please see end of newsletter---- CONTENTS: 1. The Doors Box Set is in the stores TODAY!!! 2. Doors Web Ring Ranks 15th Largest! 3. Lycos Top 5%! Were in! 4. New Doors Memorabilia List On-Line News 5. Strange Days Specials >>>>>1. The Doors Box Set is in the stores TODAY!!! Today, October 28th, 1997 is the first day that millions of Doors fans will finally be able to get their hands on a copy of The Doors long awaited box set. The media blitz across the nation has caused such a surge on our web site that it slowed downloads down to a halt earlier yesterday. Thanks to the quick response of our ISP (Fibernet, Inc) we have bolstered the site to withstand anything that can hit us today! Check us out at http://www.doors.com Included in all the promotion is a new three hour long syndicated radio show (Without a Safety Net) about The Doors aired within the last two days and hundreds of classic rock radio stations played Doors block parties all weekend long to honor this auspicious occasion. Those of you who live in NYC might want to call Tower Records for details because all three Doors will be signing box sets today! For those fans back in Los Angeles be sure to go to the Tower Records on Sunset next Saturday for the same opportunity. On a personal note: I would love to buy any spare copies of the box set that are signed by all three Doors, so if you get the chance why not help me out and help pay for your own box set at the same time! Email me for details at: kerry(a)doors.com For those of you asking about price: The list price is $69 but many large record chains are celebrating the release with special prices The lowest Ive seen so far is $45 Ever since the set list was released (http://www.doors.com/sd.html) Ive had tons of emails asking questions about the box setbut the one question that I have been asked repeatedly and had no answer for was why the song "Paris Blues" whose lyrics appeared in Danny Sugermans "Illustrated Lyrics" book was not to be on the box set song line up? So at the press conference earlier this month, I grabbed the microphone and asked the question. Ray offered an explanation saying that the song just didnt make the cut. Plain and simple. But dont worry! The box set kicks a big ass! I cant even tell you how excited that I am for the fans to hear some of the incredible tunes represented on the set. PICK IT UP! ITS AT YOUR LOCAL CD STORE TODAY!!!! >>>>>2. Doors Web Ring Ranks 15th Largest! The WebRing of The Doors which is sponsored by The Doors Collectors Magazine has now skyrocketed to being the 15th largest music related WebRing on the net! We recently too k out the Hanson WebRing (MmmmBop! Two thumbs up for this!!!) Check out the WebRing of The Doors at: http://www.doors.com/webring/ >>>>>3. LYCOS TOP 5% OF ALL WEB SITES NOW INCLUDES OUR SITE! The Doors Collectors Magazine (http://www.doors.com) has made it to the Lycos Top 5% of all web sites! Check out our sites review below. I think most of it is pretty good!: This online version of the print magazine contains a trunk full of articles, interviews and beautiful loser trinkets. The Stones have a credit card; the Doors have an e-mail address: doors.com. It's not all just Lizard King worship, either. DCM focuses on the band's music, life and career rather than simply deifying Jim Morrison. True believers can trade concert tapes, check in on tribute bands, and read back issues. Big Picture projects: mounting a campaign to strike Morrison's criminal record for his alleged exhibitionism on a Miami stage. A slavish yet seductive entrance to the Doors web ring. >>>>>4. New Doors Memorabilia List On-Line News We just updated our on-line memorabilia list with over 150 new illustrations of all kinds of Doors memorabilia! Never before has it been easier to see what you need before ordering. Our secure order site makes it safe for you to sit at home and find those hard to find Doors items that youve been looking for. Coming Soon: An online form for you to submit your want lists to us! >>>>>5. Strange Days Specials (Good until October 31, 1997 only when you mention this ad) Regular postage rates apply. ***They Died Too Young: Jim Morrison by Jon E. Lewis (UK) Out of print miniature pocket book entirely on Morrison. Cond: M Regularly $15 now just $10! http://www.doors.com/door_mem/books/index.html ***This is Happening underground newspapers from 1967-68. 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Re: I don't need no steenking badge...but I got one anyway
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > > At 2:32 PM -0700 10/28/97, Anonymous wrote: > > >I know what you're thinking, kid. > >You're thinking, "I'm going to try doing this on Halloween, and if I > >get caught, I'm going to tell mom and dad I was checking on the old > >lady's health." > > > >Forget it. You don't have a badge, and you're going to get your > >bottom tanned. > This has some very slight ObCrypto connections, in that badges are, as a > class, taken to be "face value claims of authority." Flashing a badge is > often all it takes to gain entrance to a house, or access to controlled > areas. Indeed, many of the so-called 'off-topic' missives sent to the CPUNX list actually deal with the heart of cryptography/key-identity, namely, "face value claims of" authority/identity. e.g. > >Forget it. You don't have a badge, and you're going to get your > >bottom tanned. Why do the average citizens put up with behavior from legislators and law enforcement agents that they would not tolerate in their children? It is because of the 'forged keys' of authority that they have uploaded to the mainstream media servers... "As an unelected member of an organization created by executive decree, I am happy to accept the reins of power." ...and because of the public misconception that a 'valid key' confers some kind of real authority or integrity on its owner... -----BEGIN CHIEF CYPHERPUNKS SPOKESPERSON SIGNED MESSAGE----- "Timmy C. Mayonnaise carries a turd in his wallet for identification purposes." -----END CHIEF CYPHERPUNKS SPOKESPERSON SIGNED MESSAGE----- > So, with the proliferation of essentially perfect copies of badges, and > laser-printed credentials to match them, what happens to "real" > badge-carrying officers? (And just what _are_ real officers in an era of > ten thousand police and law enforcement jurisdictions, hundreds of agencies > authorized to have their agents carry guns and make arrests, and no > traceability, no top-down authentication system?) "Real officers?" There was a 60 Minutes show recently on "real officers" who rape and murder the citizenry under cover of their badges. {How does this relate to cryptography? Glad you asked...} Who do I send my GAK key to? To the "real officer" who sexually molested and/or raped over a hundred citizens under the cover of authority? To the "real officers" who fired this guy when his activities came to light, but gave him glowing letters of recommendation so that he could move to other law enforcement agencies to continue his criminal activity? To the "real officers" who rape and murder the citizens? To the hundreds/thousands/tens-of-thousands of "real officers" who use their access to LEA databases to get the names and addresses of citizen/victims in order to murder, rape and rob them? > --Lt. Timothy May, sworn Peace Officer, Lagrange County, CLS AnonymousPoliceOfficerRobberRapistMurderer, swearing Piece-of-Ass Officer, Anytown, USA

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Re: Saving money
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 10/25/97 7:30 AM, harka(a)nycmetro.com (harka(a)nycmetro.com) passed this wisdom: >Your repeating of government-propaganda about the "abuse of the >welfare-system" etc. doesn't really cut it as an argument in a >discussion about the realism of having total financial independence >and the freedom of choices, that comes with it. no he is not .... he is repeating what we all see in the grocery store checkout lines and in the gutters with regularity ... even here in Vermonte where self-sufficiency is a way of life we see third, fourth, and fifth generation welfare families. I literally just came from picking up groceries in a Grand Union in Essex Junction (biiiggg suburb of Burlington, also home of a big IBM plant) the lady in fromt of me was playing the food stamp game ... there was more junk in that basket along with the beer. I teach 'at risk' students in a high school near here and I am dealing with kids who have some potential to do something with themselves and have no inclination to try. I have a kid who is definitely got the brains to go to college to do something with himself whose main aim in life right now was figuring out how to forge the slip for free school lunches for him and his sister so he can pocket the lunch money from his parents ... yeah, I know, send him into politics! Brian B. Riley --> http://www.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "...Those of you who turned your swords into plowshares will soon find yourselves under the yokes of those of us who kept our swords..." -- author unknown

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Re: Tim's worst nightmare.,..
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim's arms race is as hypnotizing as that of the search for max strength crypto: how to prepare for beseiged last war scenarios, when resupply is overrun with refugees, weather prevents airborne rescue, comm is jammed, deadmeat is piled all around or run away screaming with terror ... or numb with media burnout. Have many other of us have been on that hilltop, too, or struggling to get there RSN 'cause life truly sucks? What you do when no help is coming and nobody on earth gives a FF about your lonely carcass, well, that's when you fire the last .223 where it's been designed to indifferently go, to finally solve Cunanin misjudgments with hoseaway mess. Hard life teaches: The only safelove communication is end to end to yourself, ricochet alarms of system breakdown of pointless existence between heart and head. The universe broadcasts: The only totally impregnable protection of survivalist megalomania hardwired in all of us is to wage war and lose all our ambitions for immortality within our custom-made body bag. Or race ahead terabyte to orthagonal suicide, clearing slow-go bandwidth for reproductive mates to logon to a more reliably lazy DNA ISP.

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