December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Censorial leftists (Was: Interesting article)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>The cited examples were of restaurants and other businesses in town which >had rules against employees wearing nose rings, tongue studs, spiky hair, >mohawks, lip piercings, tatoos, scarification, and such things. And >"weight discrimination," as in the also-famous case of a Santa Cruz health >food store turning down the employment application of a "person of >poundage." (The grossly obese Toni Cassista, who sued the health food store >citing weight discrimination...I believe she eventually settled out of >court.) Tim, that's only because the city didn't want to remove the ceiling of the courtroom and hire a crane to lower her into the courtroom through the roof. And they were busy trying to file charges against her for something else entirely. See, she had chemicals within her body in a "quantity not warranted by any legitimate purpose" and "which, when mixed, could be used to produce nerve gas." They figured if she ever ate some beans those beans might act as an ignition charge and...well, no more Santa Cruz. It could have been worse (for her) though. They could have charged her with "possession of a gas discharge device with intent to break wind."

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RE: Re: Censorial leftists (Was: Interesting article)
by jay holovacs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This post has a strange deja vu to it. I can remember back in the '60s when revolutionary wannabes would talk of the glorious peoples paradise while living in their comfortable suburban homes. How the workers' education system was open to all, no one was unemployed... Now it has come full circle. Singapore is capitalist, so loss of freedoms can be glossed over. Many of us on this list would already be subject to the law for postings critical of government. People are in jail for looking at Penthouse on the net. Here we worry about filtering in libraries, they have whole country filtering. We worry about hate speech codes, they prohibit anything 'promoting racial or religious disharmony' (don't publish the Bell Curve there..), what good is being able to afford a printing press when you need the government's permission to publish. A few years back, at least, there were pictures in the airport of approved haircuts, you could not enter the country if your style did not conform. No first amandment, no fourth, no fifth, and don't even think about getting a gun permit. It is amazing that people who are so offended by *government action* would gloss over a government that intrudes itself into so many areas of private life. We are appalled by those who would sell their freedoms for perceived safety. Is it less foolish to sell *fundamental* freedoms for a few bucks more income? Jay ========================== >From: frissell(a)panix.com >To: "J. Lasser" <jon(a)lasser.org> >Cc: fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu; cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Subject: Re: Censorial leftists (Was: Interesting article) >Date: Fri, Dec 5, 1997 5:31 AM > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >At 03:02 PM 12/4/97 -0500, J. Lasser wrote: > >>And Singapore survives quite well being a totalitarian capitalist >>society. Sure, you can pick nits and claim that Singapore's not entirely >>capitalist, but it's more capitalist than this country and certainly >>less free, too. >> >>The fact of the matter seems to me to be that most people are perfectly >>satisfied to be passive consumers. While they like to be free, that >>means free to make purchasing decisions. They also like to be safe, and >>if they have to lose civil liberties to be safe, then they're all for >>it. Just so long as they can buy what they want. That seems to me to >>describe the essence of the Singapore problem, and I'd bet it holds true >>for the U.S. (and many other places) as well. > >Forty years ago Singapore was poor and at risk of being wiped out by Malays >or Commies or both. (Maylays killed 1 Meg of their own Chinese in the '60s.) > I'm sure that a few decades of being rich and safe will engender in that >population a liking for social freedom. They are currently more economically >free than we are. We rate 5th and they are 2nd or 3rd on the two indices of >economic freedom. They have many personal freedoms as well. They have >speech restrictions but are quite outspoken in any case. The gum and >spitting and smoking restrictions are no different than the smoking bans and >such we are coming to live under. We have one-party rule too. > >DCF >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 >Charset: noconv > >iQCVAwUBNIdmioVO4r4sgSPhAQGt+AQAuKrTJTWfuUjDSNZO7l0ZyKFJ1UViAU+v >IsnmkcSoFSYok+1Etzo/x7t2z1wY9zVN5Smi2w2kzZRoymLS41LMZW7DvBEob7yw >Ur18j2fLdYG2hIkcXiAkQaTY96SYfmLRnIESc107Xtmgt00OTVBfDyi3QUbwID0v >349sPDAohIs= >=ceec >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >

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Re: More microsoft monopoly::Re: NT 4.0 Option Pack released
by Remo Pini 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:23 03.12.97 -0800, you wrote: > >>Another message claims VC++ requires IE as well -- can anyone confirm >>this? >> > >You must have IE (3+) installed in order to use MS's visual java, FYI. > You must have IE installed in order to use MS's Developer Network Resources CD and soon for all products using their "new" info-browser (IDE's of VC++, VJ++, whatever++...) ----------------------------------------------------- Fate favors the prepared mind. (from "Under Siege 3") ----------------------------------------------------- Remo Pini T: +41 1 350 28 88 Pini Computer Trading N: +41 79 216 15 51 http://www.rpini.com/ E: rp(a)rpini.com key: http://www.rpini.com/crypto/remopini.asc -----------------------------------------------------

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17 Dec '03

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Re: 'Off' the parking pigs! (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 14:56:10 -0600 > From: TruthMonger <tm(a)dev.null> > Subject: Re: 'Off' the parking pigs! > In the jury's humble opinion, the prosecution didn't prove its case. > This is no problem for the government. They have the deep pockets > required to prosecute as many times as needed to refine their attempts > to manipulate the minds of the jurors, or to get lucky and have a few > members of a split jury vote to convict because they don't want to > blow their trip to the Stones' concert. No the police only get one shot. If they try to prosecute the individual on the same charge *after* a jury has rendered a verdict then that is double jeopardy. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | | | We built your fort. We will not have it used against us. | | | | John Wayne - Allegheny Uprising | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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SynData/Schneier Attack Network Associates
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Right to Privacy for Sale in Cyberspace; SynData Technologies Inc. Speaks Out Against Key Recovery Cedar Grove, N.J. -- SynData Technologies Inc., a provider of encryption software solutions, released a statement today condemning Network Associates Inc. for supporting the government's key recovery program. Network Associates recently purchased Pretty Good Privacy (PGP). PGP had historically been opposed to key recovery. "It is time to seriously consider the threat that Network Associates poses to the individual's constitutional right to privacy," said David Romanoff, CEO of SynData Technologies Inc. "While Network Associates claims to protect privacy in cyberspace, they have actually traded our right to privacy for a shot at increased revenues overseas by supporting the key recovery program. The slippery slope has begun right under our noses. It's time to challenge both the government and companies who support the government's key recovery program before it is too late." "The government's key recovery program is a complete violation of the individual's right to privacy and, in fact, compromises of the system are already taking place. This shows that key escrow is an untenable policy," said Bruce Schneier, one of the world's leading authorities on encryption and author of the book "Applied Cryptography". "SynData is paving the way for other software developers by taking a stand in opposition to the government and companies like Network Associates."

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Sabotage and Threats a sham.
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text From: "Blair Anderson" <blair(a)technologist.com> To: "dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu" <dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 97 18:14:26 +1300 Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Sabotage and Threats a sham. Sender: bounce-dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Blair Anderson" <blair(a)technologist.com> LONDON -- Accusations that criminals are using high-tech weapons to extort hundreds of millions of dollars from banks and stock exchanges are "pure imagination," according to Europe's largest defense electronics research agency. http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19971204S0008 Blair Anderson (Blair(a)technologist.com) International Consultant in Electronic Commerce, Encryption and Electronic Rights Management "Techno Junk and Grey Matter" (HTTP://WWW.NOW.CO.NZ [moving servers, currently inactive]) 50 Wainoni Road, Christchurch, New Zealand phone 64 3 3894065 fax 64 3 3894065 Member Digital Commerce Society of Boston ---------------------------- Caught in the Net for 25 years ---------------------------- For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "dcsb-request(a)ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Re: Security of Encrypted Magic Folders
by geeman＠best.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sounds like a crock. See the Snake-Oil FAQ. This (mis)information is so full of nonsense I wouldn't touch the product with rubber gloves. At 07:51 PM 12/4/97 -0800, Alex Woolfson wrote: > >Hello, all! Back reading the list after a long hiatus. Glad it's still as >good as ever. Anyway, thought I'd appeal to the collective brain trust as >this question is over my head. Please "cc" me directly since I'm on the >filtered cypherpunk list. > >I just downloaded Encrypted Magic Folders--a program that hides Windows 95 >folders and then encrypts them to prevent a disk utility from revealing >their content. In their help file, they try to answer the question "How >Secure is it?"--and, of course, they say *very*, but I can't tell if this is >so or if they're just blowing smoke. Particularly, their claim that key >size doesn't matter. (My mom taught me size always matters... ) If >someone with a stronger cryptography background than me could take a look at >this and let me know, I would greatly appreciate it. > >Thanks! > >Alex > > >* How Secure is it? > > EMF's encryption offers good protection and excellent speed. It > hasn't been broken yet. It is, as far as we know, exportable. THERE > IS NO BACKDOOR. Should you forget your password there is nothing we > can do to decrypt your encrypted files. > > Quite a few people ask us how big EMF's key size is. They've learned > from other encryption programs that the bigger the key the stronger > the encryption. This really doesn't apply to EMF. > > We developed our own encryption instead of using a standard because > we wanted EMF to be able to decrypt at the byte level. In this way > we only need to decrypt/encrypt the data your programs require and > not the entire file. > > In theory, because we decrypt at the byte level, the biggest key we > could use would be 8 bits - which is a joke. So instead of > decrypting every hunk of data using the same key, as most other > encryption programs do, we developed an algorithm to vary the key > based on the data's location within the file. In this way we get > both high security and high speed. We are trying to patent EMF's > encryption method. > > Having said all that, truth is, most encryption isn't "cracked" by > breaking the algorithm, it's done by guessing the password. Brute > guessing of passwords tends to level the playing field tremendously. > We actually have an advantage because we aren't an established > standard. Because we're small and relatively obscure chances are no > one will take the effort to write a password guessing program (which > incidentally would violate copyright and intellectual property laws.) > Even if someone were to go thru all this effort we could easily > change the encryption method for the next update. > > If we used an established encryption method like DES or Blowfish then > your files would probably have to be fully decrypted when opened, > would exist on disk as unencrypted while you're using them, and then > would need to be encrypted when closed. This has multiple > disadvantages. First, if your computer shuts down while you have > "encrypted" files open, then those files would be unencrypted. This > doesn't happen with EMF as your encrypted files are always encrypted > as stored on disk. The second disadvantage is that it slows things > down tremendously. As an example, let's say you retrieve your email > and your email program needs to add today's message to the end of > your 3MB email file. If we used a standard encryption method > requiring the decryption of the file before use then the entire 3 MB > file would have to be decrypted, your 300 byte message added to the > end and then the entire file encrypted again. With EMF, no > decryption would need to take place, and the only data needing > encryption would be the 300 byte message. MUCH faster. Around > 20,000 times faster in this example! > > If you still think you'd like to see us use a standard encryption > method like DES or Blowfish, or have any other suggestions, let us > know and we will consider your input in future updates > > >

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SynData/Schneier Attack Network Associates
by NoSpam 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:42 AM 12/5/97 -0500, you wrote: > Right to Privacy for Sale in Cyberspace; SynData Technologies Inc. > Speaks Out Against Key Recovery > > Cedar Grove, N.J. -- SynData Technologies Inc., a provider of encryption > software solutions, released a statement today condemning Network > Associates Inc. for supporting the government's key recovery program. > Network Associates recently purchased Pretty Good Privacy (PGP). > PGP had historically been opposed to key recovery. <snip> > "The government's key recovery program is a complete violation of the > individual's right to privacy and, in fact, compromises of the system are > already taking place. This shows that key escrow is an untenable policy," > said Bruce Schneier, one of the world's leading authorities on encryption > and author of the book "Applied Cryptography". "SynData is paving the > way for other software developers by taking a stand in opposition to the > government and companies like Network Associates." By "companies like Network Associates", do you mean "companies who are members of the Key Recovery Alliance" (http://www.kra.org)? If so, here are the "companies like Network Associates", in that regard: [Note RSA is a Charter Member] America Online, Inc. Apple Computer, Inc. * American Express Corp. Atalla * Baltimore Technologies Boeing Candle Corporation CertCo Certicom Compaq Computer Corp. Cryptomathic CygnaCom Sulutions, Inc. Cylink Corp. DASCOM, Inc. Data Securities International, Inc. Digital Equipment Corporation * Digital Secured Networks Technology, Inc. Digital Signature Trust Company Entrust Technologies First Data Corp. Fort Knox Escrow Services, Inc. Frontier Technologies Corp. Fujitsu, Ltd. GemPlus Gradient Technologies, Inc. Groupe Bull * Hewlett-Packard * Hitachi IBM * ICL IRE Intel Corporation McAfee Mitsubishi Corporation of Japan Mitsubishi Electric America Motorola Mykotronx Mytec Technologies, Inc. nCipher Corp. NCC Escrow NCR Corporation * NEC Network Systems Group of Storage Tek Novell, Inc. Open Horizon, Inc. Portland Software PSA Price Waterhouse Racal Data Group Rainbow Technologies RedCreek Communications RPK RSA * SafeNet Trusted Services, Corp. Secure Computing Corporation Siemens AG Silicon Graphics, Inc. SourceFile Spyrus Sterling Commerce Sun Microsystems * Tandem Technical Communications Corp. The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Toshiba Trusted Information Systems, Inc. * Unisys UPS * Utimaco Mergent VPNet Technologies ------------------- estone(a)synernet-robin.com remove "-birdname" spam avoider ------------------- ---------------------------- Ed Stone estone(a)synernet-robin.com delete "-birdname" spam avoider ----------------------------

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encrypted home videos
by David Honig 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Recently a hollywood pair's home sex video was stolen, duped, and sold. This makes the mass market aware. You could sell video cameras that required a passphrase to play. This would be easier with pure digital recording cameras, which are the next generation of consumer vidcams. A fast stream cipher is easy in hardware, and there *will* be a market for it. You have no privacy if your bits are not encrypted when your space is violated, by feds or other criminals, but you want the convenience of a videocamera. (forward this idea to other lists/newsgroups as appropriate) ------------------------------------------------------------ David Honig Orbit Technology honig(a)otc.net Intaanetto Jigyoubu Information is a dense, colorless, odorless material readily transmitted across empty space and arbitrary boundaries by shaking charged particles.

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