December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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18 Dec '03

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40-bit brute force RC4 speed records?
by Dan McDonald 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Just curious, what's the speed record? What if I had, oh, say, a 4-way Ultra Enterprise 450 at my disposal? Thanks, Dan

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Just who should Kenneth Starr work for next?
by Jim Burnes 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Fri, 25 Sep 1998, Pat Cain wrote: > Folks - > > Allegedly a Reuters story, from sources unknown (too many forwards to give > proper credit). > > pjc > > ===================================================== > Flynt offers Starr job as porno aide > Pretty amusing. After Billy has resigned/been impeached he could star in porno movies that Flynt produces -- maybe use the proceeds to pay the taxpayer back for all the wasted time and money. The real problem with all this is that Star was forced to reveal exactly what acts took place because Clinton insisted on defining the minutia of what constituted "sexual relations" -- thus revealing whether he did or didn't conform to that definition was mandatory. The question of perjury balances on these facts. Any adult with half a brain knows that sexual relations are relations that are sexual in nature. A reasonable man/woman (especially wives of the adulterer in question) would consider oral sex sexual relations. But that is beside the point. Billy C is being hoist on his own petard. The fishing expedition discovery process allowed by sexual harrasment suits were an invention of NOW (and the club of socialist lawyers that Mr Clinton clearly is a member of.) By any stretch of the imagination Clinton has either perjured himself in his civil deposition (a felony offense), perjured himself before a federal grand jury (an even more serious felony offense), obstructed justice or all three. Of course the whole thing could have been avoided if Clinton had simply told the truth during the deposition and to the American people. (Actually it could have been avoided if Mr. Clinton had not made a habit of making his private life a matter of public record). Now Clinton has put either himself or the Republic in a very precarious situtation. (1) Either the perjury and obstruction of justice laws apply equally to everyone, or they apply to no one. If the judicial system fails to enforce these laws they set an example. Next time someone is under oath they can decide what they can and can't lie about. They can decide that "alone" means something other than what a reasonable man would agree with. They can decide to deceive the judge and jury if the prosecution is hostile (as if the prosecution is ever anything but). They can give testimony before a federal grand jury over a closed circuit video feed so that they are free to refuse to answer questions without chance of being held in contempt and jailed. (2) Admit that he lied under oath and open himself up to prosecution (and definite impeachment). (3) Resign and save (a) the Democratic Party (b) tax payers dollars (c) his own skin (4) Refuse (2) and (3) and trash the democratic party in the elections, waste huge amounts of taxpayer dollars and jeopardize the institution of the presidency and the legal system. (whats left of them ;-) And before all the dems on this list bitch that I'm just being partisan and just "let the man get on with his job" -- let me state that telling the people the truth *is* part of "his job". (and I'm neither a democrat or a republican -- not that there is much differnce anymore) We all laugh at and belittle politicians for lying to us when "their mouths are moving", but when they move those mouths under oath they are held to a high legal standard. Would you prefer this standard not apply when taking the oath of office? Would you countenance a politician who, appearing as a witness in a murder case, lied about who he had seen stabbing whom? Part of the oath of office swears out the fact that they will faithfully execute the laws of the land. Is this another sworn oath we could write off as the "trappings" of the republic? More importantly, as Noam Chomsky points out in "Manufacturing Consent", lying politicians are the modern democratic equivalent of feudal tyrants beating or executing citizens in more "uncivilized times". When the king decided to supress the power of the citizens he simply beat, killed or imprisoned them. When modern politicos want to relieve people of power they lie to them straightfaced, then do whatever they choose. The more slick they are, the less the people even know whats being done to them -- and the more dangerous they are. They become tools of force for those who wish to buy them. The velvet glove over the iron fist. In this Heinlein is dead right -- democracy is force. If anyone could watch the clinton testimony on video tape and not believe that he is a congenital liar then you are deluding yourself. And as for getting on with the business of government that most "liberals" hope for: education, welfare, more money for more people -- maybe they ought to start thinking more about what is being done *to* them than *for* them. "When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans, it was assumed that the Americans who had that freedom would use it responsibly.... [However, now] there's a lot of irresponsibility. And so a lot of people say there's too much freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it." President Bill Clinton, MTV's "Enough is Enough" 3-22-94 (*gulp*, the Founders are rolling in their graves like blenders on frappe. The true colors of a "communitarian") In any case, since I'm neither Demoblican or RepublicRat I see the whole issue like a bystander at the crash of the Hindenberg. The first flames are breaking out on top and you know that the thing is made of hydrogen and flammable materials. The conflagration is not going to go out until the fuel is exausted. Between Lewinsky, TravelGate, FBIFileGate, DonationGate, Whitewater, Elections, Satellite News and the Internet thats a hell of a lot of fuel. Add Y2K to the fire and you just know the thing is going to burn to a cinder as it grounds out. "Oh, the humanity" Being of libertarian disposition I'm no fan of the nature of sexual harrasment proceedings, but if you are the chief executive of those laws then you must also live by them or risk undermining the very underpinnings of the legal system. If you want to be the banker in the game of Monopoly, don't complain that you don't like the rules when someone catches you cheating. (i know the original post was intended humoursly, but I'm so tired of the prevarication, deceit, etc I had to put a word or two in ;-) taking a deep breath, jim burnes "Libery cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people, who have .. a desire to know; .. that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge. I mean of the characters and conduct of their rulers." -- John Adams A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law [1765]

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Re: [salman rushdie]
by NMIR 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Does anyone have any idea what this guy is on about?. Regards, NMIR www.netlink.co.uk/users/impact/namir/namirm.html billp(a)nmol.com wrote: dave --- ABQ J 9/24/98 Iran May Withdraw Writer's Death Threat LONDON - Author Salman Rushdie met with British Foreign Office officials Wednesday amid reports Iran is preparing to withdraw the threat on his life. The late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini pronounced a "fatwa," death sentence, against Rushdie in 1989 after the publication of his book "Satanic Verses," which many Muslims deemed blasphemous. Islamic militants then put a $2 million bounty on Rushdie's head, forcing the author to live largely in under British police protection. --- I THINK that I heard tonight and saw Rushie's picture on TV that the above was called off. Progress. I am reading again your stuff at http://www.jya.com/filth-spot.htm Let's all hope for release of the requested documents and SETTLEMENT. bill > --------------------------------------------- > Attachment: bw1.html > MIME Type: text/html > --------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

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No Subject
by Anonymous 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:43:34 -0400 "Edwin E. Smith" <edsmith(a)IntNet.net> writes: > > > >If you have Microsoft Word (6.0 or later), and have a thesaurus >installed, do the following: > >1) Open a new, blank document. >2) Type in the words: I'd like to see Bill Clinton resign. >3) Highlight the entire sentence. >4) Click on the tools menu and select thesaurus (tools, language, > thesaurus) > >Look what is immediately highlighted in the selection box. > This was almost funny. Too bad the following sentences also work: I'd like to drink frog urine I'd like to hug large, purple dinosaurs I'd like to cook onions with garlic and tomatoes I'd like to strangle you with a mouse cable

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Re:
by Anonymous 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

How about: I'd like humping your mom with a prosthetic limb. I'd like Hillary to get down on both knees and eat out Monica's ass. I'd like nothing more than for anyone who even thinks about mentioning Bill Clinton to spontaneously combust, preferably right in front of a gas pump where his whole family is sitting in some sort of catatonic stupor, unable to digest any information beyond that which The Machine feeds them every day. Who the fuck wouldn't drink to that? For Christ's sake, I'd be buying! At 10:34 PM 9/25/98 +0200, Anonymous wrote: >On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:43:34 -0400 "Edwin E. Smith" <edsmith(a)IntNet.net> >writes: >> >> >> >>If you have Microsoft Word (6.0 or later), and have a thesaurus >>installed, do the following: >> >>1) Open a new, blank document. >>2) Type in the words: I'd like to see Bill Clinton resign. >>3) Highlight the entire sentence. >>4) Click on the tools menu and select thesaurus (tools, language, >> thesaurus) >> >>Look what is immediately highlighted in the selection box. >> > >This was almost funny. Too bad the following sentences also work: >I'd like to drink frog urine >I'd like to hug large, purple dinosaurs >I'd like to cook onions with garlic and tomatoes >I'd like to strangle you with a mouse cable >

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Re: IP: National ID
by pnet＠proliberty.com 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

>From: Larry Becraft <becraft(a)hiwaay.net> >Subject: IP: National ID >Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:17:56 -0500 >To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com > The reason I write now is because we have only about another week >(Oct. 2) to get in more objections to this regulation. I have just >visited the DoT webpage Do you have a URL for this page? - tppt: Tom Paine, Perpetual Traveller; webmaster(a)proliberty.com ================================================================ The USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world (1.6 m) Most of those in prison are there for victimless 'crimes' (63%) Since 1979, property seized without trial, has increased by 2500% In the 'War On Drugs', drugs do not die. People do.

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Re: IP: Funny Money: New $20 FRNs are here
by pnet＠proliberty.com 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Excerpt from the following: >It also incorporates several >>security features that have proved effective against would-be >>counterfeiters: a watermark; enhanced security thread; Of course no mention is made here of the enhanced ability for goons to steal your money. It has been reported that these 'security threads' enable detection equipment at airports to measure, or estimate, the amount of cash a person is carrying. This further enables seizures which are now taking place in the proximity of US borders, with the excuse that the carrier of the cash could be 'intended' to cross a border, without filing a customs report. Mere possesion of 'large' amounts of cash, in the proximity of a US border, is coming to be considered 'prima facie' evidence of 'money-laundering'. See previous message: >Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 08:32:43 -0400 >To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net >From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> >Subject: IP: Tougher laws are sought to seize cash If I had been smart enough to see this coming when they came out with the new security threads in $100 bills, I never would have traded the old ones in. Of course, carrying gold or silver will set off the metal detectors too. I wonder if diamonds show up on the scanners? - Tom Paine At 3:27 AM 9/25/98, Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: >From: believer(a)telepath.com >Subject: IP: Funny Money: New $20 FRNs are here >Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:05:38 -0500 >To: believer(a)telepath.com > >Source: US Newswire >http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/Current_Releases/0924-109.txt > >U.S. Treasury, Federal Reserve Issue New $20 Note >U.S. Newswire >24 Sep 10:45 > > U.S. Treasury, Federal Reserve Issue New $20 Note > To: National and Financial Desks > Contact: Hamilton Dix of the U.S. Department of the Treasury, > 202-622-2960, or > Bob Moore of the Federal Reserve, > 202-452-3215 > > WASHINGTON, Sept. 24 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Treasury Secretary Robert >E. Rubin and Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan today >announced the issuance of the redesigned $20 note, which includes new >and modified security features to deter counterfeiting of U.S. >currency. > > Rubin and U.S. Treasurer Mary Ellen Withrow marked the >issuance of the new notes in a ceremony at Treasury's Cash Room in >Washington, D.C. More than two dozen regional events hosted by >Federal Reserve banks and branches and major retailers were also >conducted around the country. > > "We have introduced a series of features that greatly raise the >hurdle for counterfeiters," Rubin said. "Together these features >amount to a formidable tool, and make spotting a counterfeit >note easier than ever. For them to be effective, it is important that >people stop for a moment to look for the new features." > > The new $20 will replace older notes gradually, and older series >$20 notes still in good condition will be recirculated. About >$83 billion worth of $20 notes is currently in circulation, 80 >percent of those in the U.S. More than $450 billion worth of >U.S. currency circulates around the globe. > > The Series 1996 $20 note is the third U.S. currency note to be >redesigned to include new and modified security features. New $10 and >$5 notes are expected to be issued simultaneously in 2000, and a new >$1 note with a more modest redesign will follow. > > "We are confident that the introduction of this third redesigned >note will be as smooth as that of the $100 and $50 notes," Chairman >Greenspan said. "Older notes will not be recalled or devalued. All >existing notes will continue to be legal tender." > > Like the Series 1996 $100 and $50 notes introduced since 1996, the >new $20 note has a familiar appearance. The size, color and >historical subjects have not changed. It also incorporates several >security features that have proved effective against would-be >counterfeiters: a watermark; enhanced security thread; fine-line >printing patterns; color-shifting ink; and a larger, off-center >portrait that is the most noticeable change in the overall >architecture of the note. There are also two features for the blind >and visually impaired. The new $20 note includes a capability that >will allow the development of technology to help the blind ascertain >the denomination of their currency. In addition, the $20 and $50 >notes have a large numeral on the back that make the notes easier for >millions of Americans with low vision to read. > > The continuing introduction of redesigned notes is a critical >component of the Federal government's anti-counterfeiting effort. >The new series aims to maintain the security of the nation's currency >as computerized reprographic technologies such as color copiers, >scanners and printers become more sophisticated and more readily >available. The $20 note is the most frequently counterfeited note in >the United States. > > Since the $20 note is so widely used in daily commerce and most >frequently dispensed by ATMs, broad nationwide recognition of the new >note when it is introduced will minimize apprehension on the part of >the public. A public education campaign now underway encourages the >public and people who handle cash every day to become familiar with >the design and security features of the new notes. Retailers and >financial institutions are educating their employees and customers by >sending posters to their outlets, training cashiers, offering >pamphlets to the public, and including information about the new note >in advertising circulars and on shopping bags. More than 100 >constituency organizations have helped reach small business owners, >loss prevention managers, visually impaired and older Americans, and >others with a stake in the new note's introduction. U.S. embassies >and consulates are using materials translated into 15 languages to >conduct localized education outreach to ensure that local users of >U.S. currency as well as financial institutions are prepared for the >issuance of the new note. > > Fact sheets on the new note, the history of U.S. currency and >related agencies are available at http://www.moneyfactory.com. > > -0- > /U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/ > 09/24 10:45 > >Copyright 1998, U.S. Newswire >----------------------- >NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is >distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior >interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and >educational purposes only. For more information go to: >http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml >----------------------- > > > > >********************************************** >To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: > majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com >with the message: > (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address >********************************************** >www.telepath.com/believer >**********************************************

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Re: ArcotSign (was Re: Does security depend on hardware?)
by HyperReal-Anon 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Julian, 1. Minor nit-picks should be off-line, not spammed to 3 lists. 2. Tupographical errors should not be nit-picked. 3. Spell check your grammar flames. and 4. Do what I say, not what I do. proff(a)iq.org wrote: > > > >the legitimate user has, excepting the 'remembered secret'. Or is > > >there anything wrong with my logic? > > > > Yes. There is something wrong with you logic. > > > > Bruce > > ********************************************************************** > > Bruce Schneier, President, Counterpane Systems Phone: 612-823-1098 > > There's something wrong with you grammer. ^^^^^^^ "grammer" indeed! > > Cheers, > Julian.

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No Subject
by Anonymous 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

"More importantly, as Noam Chomsky points out in "Manufacturing Consent", lying politicians are the modern democratic equivalent of feudal tyrants beating or executing citizens in more "uncivilized times". " Zappa said politics was the entertainment branch of industry.

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