December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Cypherpunks as a Continuing Criminal Enterprise?
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > > Could our group be charged as a "continuing criminal enterprise" under the > RICO statute? OH GAWD PLEASE SOMEBODY SHUT DOWN THE MAY RANT-BOT! ---guy ;-)

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Re: Carl Johnson Warrant and Complaint
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> > > Note to the clueless guy(a)panix.com, who asks: > > Entirely unexplained is how one goes from passphrase "sog" (Shit on government?) > > to decrypting the PGP message. > > I'm impressed. You're actually stupider than Jeff Gordon, the IRS flunky. > He was able to figure it out, so why don't you try. Ask your kindergarten > teacher to give you a gold star once you fumble your way to the answer. Nice shot: your feet are now on fire. ---guy

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Re: Carl Johnson's private key
by Jim Gillogly 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Adam skribis: > That was just a public key, though right? Was a corresponding private > key posted? Oh, you're right. I misremembered. This was actually two public keys, an RSA and an ElGamal. Still, I'm pretty sure there was a *Monger private key posted <some> time. Jim Gillogly

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A Cypherpunk Trial, Yes
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Adam Back wrote: >The collection of Toto's keys that he did post and the date he posted >might be useful to archive at jya.com so that we can see which if any >of Gordon's claims of proof of authentic Toto messages are valid. Yes, this is a crucial point. The innuendo of the complaint needs checking, and read with a heap of salt, although it's probable that the Feds have more than revealed so far. They've more fanciful stories to spiel of the confabulous material of the Mounties and Estevan Bombies, and SS agents and bunkered magistrates and imperiled Cindys needing protection from the Killer Bots. To hawk tickets we have added links within the complaint to all the Cpunk messages cited, but for those who don't want to download it again or search the archives, here they are chronologically: http://jya.com/jg062397.htm http://jya.com/jg090497.htm http://jya.com/jg120997.htm http://jya.com/jg121497.htm http://jya.com/jg060898.htm (not June 10, as in the complaint; thanks to jeff-anon) http://jya.com/jg072598.htm http://jya.com/jg072798.htm It was a pleasure to reread Toto(s)'s stuff while searching the cpunk amazing archives -- what a waterfall from everyone of free association, tants, jibes, potshots and richochets and self-mockery. I now believe the report from TX that Carl's got an IQ off the charts like all cpunks off the wall. It's worth keeping in mind that multiple users of pseudonyms is not unusual, at least among artists long before the Internet, and not only performance group e-mailers like the Totos, CJ Parkers, XxxMongers, Gus-Peters and endless Anonymees jostling for unrecognition. Two venerable and heavily-used nyms in Europe are Luther Bissett and Monty Cantsin. A dazzling Monty Cantsin posted here for a while. A Luther Bissett message ridiculing the recent kiddie porn sweep was posted to Cyberia a few days ago. But these pseudonyms and others are frequently used to taunt uptight authoritarians by substantial numbers of people, sometimes acting in concert but most often acting alone. An exemplary case of acting up like the Totos and other performance pseudo-Feynmann's here, is that of Dario Fo, the Italian artist who recently won the Nobel Prize. His off the chart genius, too, was in mixing the real and imaginary to challenge, and to frighten, authority into revealing their treacherous deception of the real and imaginary to maintain state and religious control century after century, culture after culture. He, too, was regularly condemned by those obsesses with holding onto power, and sometimes arrested, for his imitations of them at their most buffoonish and serious. Fo is from an earlier generation, though, and what more agressively offensive form is suitable for those younger we may be witnessing in the Jim Bells, Unknown Arrestees, and those here not yet projected onto the world stage but working the crowd most effectively. Black Unicorn, step up to the mike. Show magic. In any, case, I'm delighted to see Cypherpunks get credit in the Johnson pseudo-complaint for hosting transgressive art appropriate for the age of widespreading disinformation. A tumultous trial to amplify this forum's mayhemic virtues and vices would be magnificently chaotic and hopefully anarchic to the max. Pray for CJ to get an equally mad attorney to demand his day, and our day, in court. This under-recognized witness is eager for a highly offensive part to play, a gibbering idiot like Toto(s), you bet, I admire their style of spleen and threat to the fools of seriousness.

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SSZ is Down
by Wayne Walker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm sending this for Jim (ravage(a)ssz.com) as he is a bit too busy just now. He just arrived at home to find the dog pinned under the tree that fell and took out the phones and the ISDN. The dog is apparently uninjured (though only two feet from certain death). Don't know which dog. The ISDN is hurt and probably won't be up till sometime tomorrow. Later, Wayne -- Wayne Walker Austin, Texas E-mail wwalker(a)pobox.com "Real Programmers don't document, if it was hard to program it should be hard to use"

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear Mr Gordon, When I checked the digital signature on the Internet death threat using the PGP software and JOHNSON'S secret key ring, the computer identified the signature as one of the signature keys stored in JOHNSON'S computer. Because both the "private" and "public" portions of the "key" were stored on JOHNSON'S computer, the message can be authenticated as having been generated by the person who possessed this "secret key" and knew the correct password. In other words, only the person possessing the secret key found on JOHNSON'S computer could have generated the "death threat" message. Why would you claim only one person possessed the secret key? As you doubtlessly know, some of the TruthMonger secret keys have been posted to Cypherpunks anonymously. This is not authentication. Thank you.

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Your new password
by sixdegrees 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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more keys
by Adam Back 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

OK here's some more keys: [1] for "Magic Circle" [2] for "Necessarily Knott, ME" Again were these keys used to sign anything interesting? Key [1] was preceeded, perhaps meaningfully by this text in the long (22k) Epilogue 5: : Now: : : Go home, kick your fucking door in, place a disk in the floppy drive, and : type 'pgp -kxa "My KeyID" a:\secring.asc secring.pgp'. : Mail the disk to Louis J. Freeh : : Does your copy of PGP ask for a password before spitting out the KeyID : to any one of a thousand monkeys who sits at your keyboard and : randomly types in the above? : : My copy doesn't. : : Below is a copy of a key pulled off of my computer by 19 different people. : : It was pulled off of my hard drive by the first individual, who : proceeded to inform a second individual of the method used, and : challenged them to do the same thing, using a different method. The : second did so, and passed all the information along to a third person, : etc., etc. : : Nineteen people, nineteen different methods. if Toto apparently speaks in parables, and via fiction etc. is he saying that the RCMP or someone else pulled his keys off his computers? How does this correlate with his posts on the subject of hassles with the RCMP, and confiscation of some of his machines? Adam [1] ====================================================================== This one has userid: Magic Circle -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.2 lQHgAzHiUJEAAAEEAP1slPSwrVd90NVBqfsw6+JP64icmuSrztzyCgaPcXHRiy/J Kbgi9/gy1iCnWcQh1ATaSzblATSU24Xw+4Ow4s5xOvdxFGoIop6EXwTNfwRa2EZr 6ZZ41Glr9g1g9H0RJwJlkldUcunVNekXel1MYA8VJJynvtZVuntA11SbF0AdAAUT Ab7sJWrM/6azA/vV2wq4sdyfngUgUHq8Hlo5NHvEjyh2cSoMMNxnpKR3+XYRbYTd HhwfbOvji1cWnVJF6GBxe3nLvbkbHJU+K3hNNYOT9JKMahu+5wKMbHkwToSsLzyQ kgn2JlKDJugoycdjInlQs7NiyoOrIYWQzSi4yGbhl2t1Au+67UY/r57J9AIA8V/6 J5x1wH7MACSWU91jXXxpJvSud053nrSgnupEUbFX3dXm0GXf6vdhbQW9eYsIJmCI pZLrqwBcFe2GWhk9AAIActyoxAgCvFyGSJHHzJVVoKfWk/gjmKs/r7+J9vWnBAkc Pg0wqUn66Hmq0op28gEXU3qKJiJ8rAQETAxBhfpnJgH83CrrEZDcBY8IKsFI2A19 KahohyDXmsEHIWqKZLSwzjsYcf049RCUxNDPJZchuoMEPkK9414KyPqlJbStsFaE YZ6itAxNYWdpYyBDaXJjbGU=3D =3DGEo6 -----END PGP MESSAGE----- and it was posted in a message dated 20 Oct. 97 with Subject: InfoWar Epilogue 5 / TEXT ====================================================================== [2] ====================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.2 lQD4AzRmZWoAAAECAMnJrqd/TERCLeFscdgNvwVxrVG4tRm0VThMEXXkctCGMaUD jcETxcV0ZseRUcyUKfqlLd3CRsIwClozlWHHR7EABREAAfwJ5D1Ecilit/Mwsn4N GcWZXWpg3mM6/Epzs2pEhi3I926ZiWPB1DKmdZR4nVemsnwv47SWLJyCnE4sben5 h8oHAQDTFaJDJSN7+9NToOE4NFiruAXXMIHEQ6ZH21oW1sYSiwEA9LmhvfahDVKo 1/CMtxxozAtG8rWycBYVIVrkDKiVgjMBAKeB2VY/f7tzmv7KxUUtN9607+CQlWPp E3HBLTlwtuRAUxC0FU5lY2Vzc2FyaWx5IEtub3R0LCBNRQ== =caeb -----END PGP MESSAGE----- posted in a message dated 10 Nov. 97 with Subject: Key Signing ====================================================================== Adam

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No Subject
by Jrjeffro＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Text Analysis and Shakespeare
by cicho＠free.polbox.pl 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: >a friend gave me a book called "the cryptographic >shakespeare" in which he found some patterns in >shakespearean texts that might tend to suggest >some codes were embedded in it. In what sense? Most of the time, plain old lit analysis is looking for "keys" and then applying them to "unlock" the "hidden message". An allegory is a simple substitution cipher, and then it goes all the way up to lit equivalents of one time pads and steganography (say, 'Lolita' or Frank O'Hara's poetry). Concerning Shakespeare, I thought those involved in this discussion might be amused by the following. I would have posted it earlier but didn't have the book at hand, and then Lem's prose isn't particularly friendly for the translator. It's all taken out of context, but will speak for itself, I am sure. -------------- STANIS&Lstrok;AW LEM DIARY FOUND IN A BATHTUB (chapter IV, excerpt) Here goes, I said at last, opening my eyes. My ears have yet not drunk a hundred words of that tongue's utterance, yet I know the sound. Art thou not Romeo? Fine. The captain punched keys briskly, typing in the line I offered. A slot that looked like an ancient letterbox began spitting out paper ribbon which spun slowly in the air. Captain Prandtl held it gently and handed it to me. I held the tip of the ribbon, waiting patiently. The paper snaked out of the slot inch by inch and when I tugged at it carefully I could feel the feeding mechanism vibrate. Suddenly, the barely perceptible tremor ceased and the ribbon spun on, blank. I held it to my eyes. BAS TARD MAT HEWS BAS TARD DRAW HIM & QUARTER WITH HOLY DE LIGHT MAT HEWS PIG SEED MATH HEWS MATH. And what is this? I asked, not even trying to conceal my dismay. The captain nodded. I presume that when he wrote the scene, Shakespeare was unfavourably disposed towards a man named Mathews. . . and encoded the sentiment in the lines of his play. You expect me to believe that? Do you mean to say that he deliberately filled this wondrous, lyrical passage with crude interjections at some Mathews person? I never said he did so deliberately. A code is a code, no matter what the authors intent. Do you mind? I asked. I approached the control panel and keyed in the freshly obtained plaintext myself. The ribbon moved again, twisting into a spiral. I caught a brief, peculiar smile on Prandtls lips, but he didnt say a word. THAT ASS YEAH HER ASS FUN FAT ASS FUN FAT YEAH ASS HER ASS HEY THAT FAT ASS - read the tidily printed syllables. What is this? I demanded. What is it?! Another layer. Well, what did you expect? Weve exposed a deeper layer of the psyche of a 17th century Englishman, plain and simple. This cannot be! Youre telling me this beautiful poem is nothing but a vessel to conceal some pigs and asses?! And that if you feed the most sublime literary achievements, pinnacles of human genius, immortal epics, sagas - it will all come out hodgepodge? Hodgepodge it is, mister. Art... literature... do you realise what their purpose is? To divert attention! From what? You dont know? I dont. Thats too bad. You ought to know. What are you doing here, then?! I didnt answer. With skin on his face taut like a tents canvas stretched over sharp rocks, he continued in monotone: A broken code remains a code. Under the eye of a professional cryptographer it will shed one moult after another. It is inexhaustible. It has no end nor bottom. You can delve into progressively deeper, progressively more arcane strata, but this journey never terminates. -------------- (This 1960 novel is available in English translation, hopefully better than my attempt here, as "Diary Found in a Bathtub", though i *really* should be called The (Original) Puzzle Palace, 'coz that's what it's about. It's Kafka plus David Lynch plus TCMay rolled in one :) .marek -- General Frenetics, Discorporated: http://www.lodz.pdi.net/~eristic/

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