December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

CP Cite
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We're putting together copies of cpunk messages Jeff Gordon cites in the Carl Johnson complaint and have found all in the archives except one dated June10, 1998. Jeff describes it: 15. On June 10, 1998, an anonymous message was posted to the Cypherpunks Internet group. In the message, it is stated that the bomber "placed the bomb before embarking on a middle-leg of the TruthMonger SoftTarget Tour of Planet Terra." The message also referenced an RCMP plan to "drive a known madman crazy enough to finally put him away turned bad, and resulted in a backlash of death and destruction ..." I noted that this message contained information about the courthouse bomb incident which had not previously been made public, and was written in a style and manner which I recognized as being similar to other writings which my investigation has linked to JOHNSON. In his interview with Special Agent Sheridan, JOHNSON acknowledged using the name TruthMonger, and also stated he had psychological problems, both of which correspond to this message. We'd appreciate getting a copy (yes, Jeff, if you would, anon ok). BTW, there's a brief message from Lucky Green yesterday in the archives on CEJ which did not appear on the cyberpass list, AFAIK, although it was sent to ssz.com. Do such gaps happen much in CDR? Yeah, yeah, I post to toad, and aim to be the last one who does, so drive me AP-mad. BTW2, anybody know what Linda Reed thinks of her infame? BTW3, we heard from TX that CJ's music/perform art is going to be boosted in concert with his god-sent cornseed of publicity.

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Exported PGP
by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've never heard this anywhere else but I was browsing www.infowar.com and I saw this quote Question the priorities Private sector intellectual property deserves pride of place Data integrity and system survivability are the priorities Unencumbered encryption is vital for national competitiveness Protecting all private sector data is more important than a marginal enhancement to our governments ability to catch criminals and terrorists ****PGP is not good enough"exported PGP" has Soviet back doors Lotus reported to have given away half the key to NSASwedes are pissed Does anyone have info on this? I assume that since the source code for PGP is publicly available someone would have questioned this already... The full url I was using: http://www.infowar.com/class_1/class1_083198a_j.shtml

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CP Cite (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 09:12:28 -0400 > From: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> > Subject: CP Cite > BTW, there's a brief message from Lucky Green yesterday > in the archives on CEJ which did not appear on the > cyberpass list, AFAIK, although it was sent to ssz.com. Do such > gaps happen much in CDR? I've noticed such discrepencies in the past as well. Unfortunately I have been unable to figure out exactly why a particular remailer (I've seen every one do this at one time or another) will drop the resend. I don't know whether it's a time out in the various time-to-lives or what. I've noticed that the various remailers will sometimes change message id's causing multiple copies as well. I don't believe it's important since it doesn't happen very often, as near as I can determine. As long as any archives subscribe to all the lists and use some sort of duplicate filtering it shouldn't be a real issue. I do know that SSZ holds messages at least 4 days and my ISP holds them for 5 days so I don't think it's a connection problem resulting in dropped traffic. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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MISTY encryption algorithm source code
by Nobuki Nakatuji 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

MISTY source code posted by me at long ago had many mistake. Attachment file are revised MISTY source code and revised readme. Thanks. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com misty.zip

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Renewable Energy Stuff (was citizenship silliness) (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

First, let me say (again) to everyone .... Quit sending these responses to my private email. If you want to discuss it keep it on the list. Any further such private submissions go into /dev/null unread. This also means you don't need to cc: if you send it to the cpunks list since I'm subscribed...;) Now, back to more intersting discussion... Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:26:47 -0600 (MDT) > From: Jim Burnes <jvb(a)ssds.com> > Subject: Renewable Energy Stuff (was citizenship silliness) > Apparently hemp hurd gassification yields a fairly sizeable, renewable > amount of energy per acre. Lemme see if I have the reference.... > Historically Hemp (Cannabis Sativa L.) has been a very high yielding plant > (Haney 1975). Assuming that hemp produces up to 4 tons/acre seed plus 10 > tons/acre stalks, Table 1 shows how many gallons of liquid fuel import could be > saved by each of the following proven biomass fuel conversion routes. > > Table 1. Conversion technologies for hemp stalks and hemp oil > > CONVERSION CONVERSION GASOLINE EQUIV > TECHNOLOGY EFF - % GAL/ACRE > > 1 Ethanol from fermentation of hydrolyzed cellulose 20 200 > 2 Digestion of whole stalks to methane 50 500 > 3 Producer gas from thermal gasification of stalks 85 1000 > 4 Methanol from syngas from gasification of stalks 65 750 > 5 Methanol from pyrolysis of stalks 3 30 > > OIL SEEDS - 4 tons/acre > > 6 Hemp Seed oil from Seeds, no conversion 100 300 > 7 Biobioesel premium diesel fuel from hemp seed 90 270 > oil combined chemically with methanol You're going to seriously claim that 1 gallon of hemp oil is equivalent to 3 gallons of gasoline? I don't think so. I've seen hemp burn and it don't burn anywhere near that efficiently. I also notice it doesn't mention what it costs to raise that 4 tons/acre... ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Spot The Fed
by Raymond D. Mereniuk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

About a week ago I sent a message the list regarding Toto and how I found it hard to believe he was a country & western artist. I mentioned a tribute to Toto and an URL pointing to a web page on a data security product at a web site which is total spoof. The URL lead to a page touting a data security product called PUP, Pretty Useless Privacy. I shamelessly plagiarized Toto's concept, and even some of sentences, from a post on Pretty Lousy Privacy. I even managed to get most of the characteristics of Snake Oil in one sentence. The graphics on the page is a Snake Charmer. Now you figure the Feds will visit for sure, just try and spot them. Resolve the IP addresses to a domain name might work but if they had a clue they would use dummy domains. I would like to nominate the folks at IP address 204.249.179.54, or better yet the whole Class C as possible Feds. The IP address does not resolve to a domain name, actually all the IP address in the Class C plus the 204.249.178 Class C. I didn't bother to try any other neighbouring Class Cs. I can understand a few IP addresses of isolated machines not resolving to a domain name but not the whole Class C. You should also be able to see the default gateway's domain name. Seems like this may be the site of some paranoid privacy loving folks. If I have slandered any Cypherpunk and their company, who may be at least privacy loving, please accept my apologies in advance but please let me know if I made a mistake.

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Re: Archives? What archives? (fwd)
by Sparkes, Ian, ZFRD AC 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's the deal... if someone gets a copy of the archives to me somehow, I pledge that I will get them burned and will distribute them for cost price. I assume there will be two CDs as the data is apparently around 1GB. I have already checked, and for a run of 300 (should be enough to cover all the non-apathetic CP list members) the costs are: DM1,67 = 92 cents each = $1,84 + VAT = $2,15. Add postage onto this. A really great idea would be to include the coderpunks archive on any space that were left over. But first of all, I'll keep the focus as the greatest enemy of 'good' is 'great'. Note: IMPORTANT: The rep was emphatic - you shouldn't forget that this price includes *2 color* labelling! Makes the offer kind of irresistable doesn't it? Why am I doing this? Because just as Tim pointed out, this has been discussed more than once but there have been no results. At least none that I have heard of in the last year. One point - I am outside of the US. Good for europeans, but perhaps a little expensive for US-CPs. Maybe someone would like to take over the US distribution. (WHGIII?) I could get 50% to the states for distribution. Anyone wants to arrange this with me, contact me off-list. If no one does, then I'll start bugging people until something happens <g>... Ian At 14:28 04.09.98 -0500, you wrote: >In <Pine.HPP.3.91.980904210041.12475B-100000_cor.sos.sll.se>, on 09/04/98 > at 09:02 PM, Asgaard <asgaard_cor.sos.sll.se> said: > >>Ray Arachelian wrote: > >>>It was done... Remo Pini (www.rpini.org or some such) was the dude > >>www.rpini.com > >>Crypto CD Vol 1 has lots of stuff on it but I never found any archive of >>the CP list(s). Perhaps I didn't look enough. > >I didn't find any either. > >Also someone mentioned previously of pre-1995 online archives. Anyone have >a pointer to these? > >There is a local company here that does CD duplication and Harddrive >archiving to CD. I can check and see how much they would want to burn a CD >with the CP archives on it. I would imagine that list members would prefer >RockRidge extensions? OS/2 supports both Joliet & Rockridge so it does not >matter to me one way or the other. :) > >-- >---------------------------------------------------------- ----- >William H. Geiger III http://www.openpgp.net >Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 > >Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice >PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. >OS/2 PGP 5.0 at: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html >---------------------------------------------------------- ----- > > >

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Re: Citizenship silliness. Re: e$: crypto-expatriatism (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:03:25 -0500 > From: Petro <petro(a)playboy.com> > Subject: Re: Citizenship silliness. Re: e$: crypto-expatriatism (fwd) > There already are several, the problem is the cannot be centralized > the way oil is. That's not really the problem... > Alcohol is acceptable (and in some ways better) than gasoline for > cars and motorcycles, but anyone can set up a still and compete with RDS & > Standard. The problem with alcohol is that there isn't enough free land in order grow enough plant material to provide the necessary quantities without seriously restricting the amount of land available for actual foodstuffs and living space (unless you want everyone to move to Black Rock desert or live on the top of a mountain). Alcohol is also much more of a fire hazard than gas. It burns hotter, isn't put out by water spray easily, and burns invisibly (well all right in the near-UV). > A mix of solar Again not enough land to make it feasible, not to mention the low efficiency of even the best panels. > wind Not enough places in the US (or anywhere else for that matter) where the wind blows with sufficient force 18 hours a day to make it economical. > coal Coal isn't an acceptable substitute, mainly because there isn't enough low-sulphur deposits in the world to supply the US, let alone the rest of the world. Plus it isn't renewable. > hydroelectric Not enough rivers with sufficient hydrodynamic head to make this work for the US let alone the rest of the planet. > nuclear I'll buck the general consensus because I like nuclear energy, however there is a single MAJOR caveat, we need fussion and not fission reactors to make it economical. The waste problem with fission reactors is enough to vote in the negative on them. > and other sources cop-out. The reality is that the clathrate deposits occur across the entire ocean. The existing Magnesium Nodule treaties could be extended to cover the countries that don't have coastlines. They are the first renewable, occurring in sufficient quantity, and with realizable and economicly feasible methods for mining, processing, and distributing to have been put on the table. As to the gas and oil folk being against them, they're about the only ones with an existing infrastructure (ie extracting oil and gas from the sea floor) to take advantage of the source, implying that existing changes in the infrastructure would be minor. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Forwarded mail....
by Bernardo B. Terrado 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RE: PEDIATRIC ADVISE - FREE WEBSITE
by Brown, R Ken 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Oh and the language they use! It's all > f*** this and f*** that -- if only their Mothers could hear them. Who's to say they can't? Mothers can read mailing lists too you know :-) Ken

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