December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: Cyberpunks Signal-to-Noise Ratio
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What! I can't hear you! You could always filter *aol*, *anon* and *sixdegrees*. Or shout louder (i.e. contribute signal). Matt > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Burnes [mailto:jvb@ssds.com] > > Far be it from me to complain about the content-free > nature of others postings, but has anyone else noticed > that the signal on cypherpunks is being lost in the noise?

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RE: Encryption and Terrorists
by Walter Burton 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I hope you don't feel like this (cliche) message has actually accomplished anything. Posting this message to cypherpunks is preaching to the choir. Get out there and actually _DO_ something about it. \\/alter > -----Original Message----- > From: Anonymous [mailto:nobody@nowhere.to] > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 1998 4:15 PM > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Encryption and Terrorists > > > Wake up America! Encryption doesn't kill people! Terrorists do. > Would you give the keys to your house to the government? Just in > case they have to break in? NO! How about your ATM PIN #, > just in case > you don't pay your taxes? NO! So don't give out your keys that you use > for > encrpytion and don't let the government have a way to get them either! > > Just say NO to the UNCONSTITUTIONAL idea of Limited Privacy! > After all, > we are not COMMUNISTS. >

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

AIMSX(a)aol.com wrote: >Hmm, well, you were wrong about many things. > >I use 100 accounts because it is so easy to get all the new users, and the >changed passwords with the way they are set up, so why stop at one, and if >that one is disabled, I would like something to fall back on. d00d! would you mind posting some of those access codes, logon id's, phone numbers? i sure could use a few! certainly you don't need all 100. thanks a million! make sure that you send them to the cypherpunks list so that all the fed guys reading this list will see them. the feds like to use stolen accounts too, they can cover their tracks better that way. TotoMongrel II(tm)

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RE: Democracy... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Matthew James Gering <mgering(a)ecosystems.net> > Subject: RE: Democracy... (fwd) > Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:43:32 -0700 > > There's your first problem, your argument won't stand in the > > No, there is a strict difference between the defining a word and > defining a philosophy coined after that word. The *point* is neither word definition or philosophy, the point *is* the 5,000+ years of human history that define the issues related to the individual, political expression, and religous freedom. The meaning is in the context (not the medium - respects to Marshall). > > Religion and by extension faith are not > > constrained by reason or logic. > > How do you account for this contradiction. I hold a personal philosophy > that is strictly and absolutely constrained by reason and logic. In your mind. You make the same mistake bejillions before you have made and continue to make. Just because you are satisfied with it is no justification to foist it off on me or to expect it will satisfy me. As Santyana said, Those who don't understand history are doomed to repeate it. This is why it is important to not fall into your 'relativistic' abolition of history. > Do you believe in THE FORCE, as described by the great prophet George > Lucas? You really should give up drugs. > If you say "Yes," am I to claim that is your *religious* belief, not > subject to reason, logic or empirical evidence? Absolutely, well except for one very important point. It isn't your claiming it's my religion that makes it so, it's my claiming it that makes it so. What *you* claim is my religion is irrelevant and immaterial. If we follow your plan we would outlaw anything that couldn't be reduced to an equation in some predicate calculus. There is more in heaven and earth than in your philosophy Horatio. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Jim Bell and CJ Upbeat
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: Subject: Update on Jim Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 I spoke with Jim last night. He had been "in the hole", as he calls it, for almost 7 days. This is when he is placed in a cell by himself on a different floor and is not allowed out of it (they bring his food to him, instead of his going to the cafeteria, and can't go out to the social area - to play pool, for instance). He said it was because he had remarked to a warden that she had the ugliest voice in the whole world, after she repeatedly told the inmates to clean up their rooms even though they had complied repeatedly to her demands. (I asked him if he had spent the time reading Atlas Shrugged, and he said he'd done that a bit. I don't think he's much interested in railroads, taking quite some time to get through it, although he told me he's a fast reader). Anyway last night his things had been packed and he expected to be shipped to Oklahoma City this morning. He will be there anywhere from half a day to two days and then be sent on to Springfield, MO for the mental eval. Perhaps he will meet up with Toto there. [End forward] JYA: If it's not been mentioned here CJ was in transit to Springfield over the weekend, being held for unknown reasons in OKC from where he called a fan who passed on the news. He's in good spirits. And Jim is reported to be in good spirits. So it's all worked out, their notoriety a tonic for tired blood, try it, depressives. Both are sassing the jailers, getting railroaded to OKC and Springfield for a bit of mind-bending and -straightening. Are they fit to stand trial, oh yeah, do it, the snakes of Medusa. No one knows what the OKC stopover for Jim or CJ is about, maybe to introduce them to each other (Jim claims to not know CJ -- smart), maybe to kick dirt on the homeplate of Murrah Memorial, get image-counseled by Anita Hill. Jim and CJ in Springfield at the same time, getting heavy mentaled, wordsmith assassination duelers. Now that's a Teen Spirit I'd like to smell. Remember, Music Capital Branson is just down the road from Springfield if cpunks want to gather to banjo code duel.

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RE: Cuban encryptors
by bmccaffrey＠executive.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Actually, it was RTF. -----Original Message----- From: jkthomson [mailto:jkthomson@bigfoot.com] makes you wonder what hell they were using for encryption? DES? ------------------------------ September 17, 1998 Web posted at: 11:16 AM EDT (1516 GMT) MIAMI (AP) -- The shadowy world of a low-budget Cuban spy ring came to light in a courtroom, where an FBI agent testified that a suspect's apartment yielded computer diskettes containing coded references to Fidel Castro and plans to sabotage an aircraft hangar. <snip>

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"Shamanism and the Drug Propaganda"
by drussell＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Birth of Patriarchy and the Drug War. "A magnificent production." Prof. Richard Evans Schultes. 6"x9" Paperback, 365 Pages, 200 Illustrations, Quality Binding. For an illustrated summary of each chapter, and online ordering, go to http://www.kalyx.com.

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RF networks, spread spectrum
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cpunks interested in radio networking and spread spectrum apps might find the following links useful - <http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/fhsspaper.97.html> describes the design of a 900 mhz spread spectrum 128kb/s TCP/IP radio network with 10baseT input/outputs; <http://www.tapr.org/ss/qexss.html> provides an overview of spread spectrum projects/regulations/applications <http://www.tapr.org/ss/index.html> has links to more spread spectrum stuff. -- Greg Broiles gbroiles(a)netbox.com

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Mark Twain/Mercantile dumps Digicash
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

According to <http://www.thestandard.com/articles/display/0,1449,1721,00.html?home.mf>, Mark Twain Bank/Mercantile Bank will no longer support DigiCash. They are no longer listed as an issuer of ecash on Digicash' website. Neither organization seems to have information available via the web about the decision to terminate the service. -- Greg Broiles gbroiles(a)netbox.com

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Contacting Congress (fwd) [somebody subscribed me?]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From APFN(a)netbox.com Thu Sep 17 19:52:20 1998 Message-ID: <36019E31.D13F11E6(a)netbox.com> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:41:37 -0700 From: American Patriot Friends Network <APFN(a)netbox.com> Reply-To: APFN(a)netbox.com Organization: American Patriot Friends Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "\"apfn(a)onelist.com\"" <apfn(a)onelist.com> Subject: Contacting Congress Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------835B6AC49DD57848B52A976B" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------835B6AC49DD57848B52A976B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +++ CONGRESS +++ U.S. CONGRESS - CALL 1-800-504-0031 OR 202-224-3121 1-800-343-3222 >The new number is: 1-800-361-5222 (90001). When you call the number, > follow the prompts. When asked for your 5 letter zip code, enter the > number 90001. You will be connected to the main capitol switchboard. > Just ask for the congressman or the senator you wish to speak to. If you > enter your home zip code, you will be connected directly to your > Congress "CRITTER". (Congressman or Senator)Posted:08/11/98 Contact Congress via the net - Elected Net: http://www.hoboes.com/html/Politics/electednet/ Netline To Congress - Question of the Day http://www.netline-to-congress.com/ The Best Congress Money Can Buy http://mojones.com/COINOP_CONGRESS/data_viewer/data_viewer.html SENATE: http://www.senate.gov SENATE EMAIL ADDRESS: http://www.senate.gov/senator/membmail.html http://www.senate.gov/senator/state.html Senate Judiciary Committee members with contact information: http://www.senate.gov/committee/judiciary.html Senate - send email: http://www.freecongress.org/jsmp/ContactSenators.htm *** Letter to Senators: http://members.foothills.net/ricefile/index.html HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES - http://www.house.gov House Of Representatives (EMAIL) http://www.house.gov/writerep/ House Judiciary Committee members with contact information: http://www.house.gov/judiciary/mem105.htm HOUSE AS THE SPEAKER http://speakernews.house.gov/asknewt/ QUICK SEARCH TEXT OF BILLS 105th CONGRESS: http://thomas.loc.gov/home/thomas.html?66,9 HOUSE - DOWNLOADING BILL TEXT http://thomas.loc.gov/home/billdwnloadhelp.html CONTRACTING CONGRESS http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/ Here's a timely jewel. James Traficant's (D-Ohio) one-minute speech before House on September 15th. James Traficant (D-Ohio) Home Page http://www.house.gov/traficant/ E-mail: telljim(a)mail.house.gov (Rep. Jim Traficant D-OH) AN AMERICA WITH TWO LEGAL STANDARDS IS AN AMERICA WITH NO LEGAL STANDARDS September 15, 1998 Mr. Speaker, if Joe Q. Citizen lied in a civil trial, he would be sued for every penny. If Joe Q. Citizen lied to a Grand Jury, he would go to jail. Lying is perjury. Perjury is a crime. Now, having said that, what is going on here, Mr. Speaker? Does America now have two legal standards, one for you, one for me; one for he, one for she; one for generals, one for soldiers; one for Presidents, one for residents? Let us tell it like it is. Joe Q. Citizen cannot apologize, Joe Q. Citizen is not censured, Joe Q. Citizen is prosecuted. And let me warn Congress: An America with two legal standards is an America with no legal standards. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of the lives of all of the soldiers that gave their lives fighting to preserve our freedom. Media & Patriot Web Pages: (Bookmark) http://home.rica.net/CaptainNemo/pers/patsites.htm --------------835B6AC49DD57848B52A976B Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: (from apfn@localhost) by netbox.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA02055 for pamrobin(a)caliente.igate.com; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:37:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from apfn) Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.85]) by netbox.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA02050 for <APFN(a)netbox.com>; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:37:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from idzrus(a)earthlink.net) Received: from idzrus.earthlink.net (1Cust129.tnt7.krk1.da.uu.net [208.254.8.129]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA18157; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980917093214.0356e100(a)mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: idzrus(a)mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:32:14 -0700 To: idzrus(a)earthlink.net From: "W.G.E.N." <idzrus(a)earthlink.net> Subject: Contacting Congress via e-mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Real-To: "W.G.E.N." <idzrus(a)earthlink.net> >From: gardener(a)southtech.net >X-Sender: gardener(a)southtech.net >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) >Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:34:34 -0400 >To: (Recipient list suppressed) >Subject: Contacting Congress via e-mail > >X-Sender: tbark(a)nwark.com >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 >Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:14:25 -0500 >To: "1a-TBA Members & Friends" <tbark(a)nwark.com> >From: Take Back Arkansas <tbark(a)nwark.com> >Subject: Contacting Congress via e-mail > >MAKE YOUR VOICES HEARD, PLEASE! HERE'S HOW. md > >Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:59:19 -0700 >From: David Dorman >Organization: University of Idaho >Subject: Contacting Congress via e-mail > >In searching for Congressional e-mail addresses recently, I found the >below listed web site. For those of you who have tried to contact many >members of Congress at once you know how time consuming the process can >become. > >ElectedNet! will allow you to search for a single member by name, state, >just one party, etc. or you can e-mail all members of Congress at once. >It provides an effective way to quickly get your message out and uses >your e-mail program not some "fill in the blanks" type interface. Using >this method you will be able to use your spell checker and retain a copy >of the messages sent for future reference. > >In order to improve the impact of your message you should format your >e-mail like a standard mail letter to congress (minus the TO: section) >and INCLUDE your return mailing address. Most members of Congress will >not reply via e-mail but by U.S. Postal Service, so your return address >is critical. This is probably to prevent someone from changing an >e-mail reply and forwarding without their approval. > >Even if you send a letter (e-mail) to a Congressional member who is not >in your voting district, they will usually respond and track the number >of letters for or against an issue. With this web site it is easy to >just "click" on another name to be included in your letter to Congress >and the more letters some staff person has to send out the greater the >impact your message will have during the weekly Congressional office >staff meetings. > > >http://www.hoboes.com/html/Politics/electednet/ > > > > > >Mary Denham, State Coordinator Take Back Arkansas, Inc. >2167 N. Porter Rd. Fayetteville, AR 72704 >Fax 501/521-1724 Pho 501/521-1933 >TBA website http://www.nwark.com/~tbark > > > > > --------------835B6AC49DD57848B52A976B--

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