December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Stan the Asshole
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 98-03-24 09:06:28 EST, mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com writes: << Stan is an asshole, an annoyance on this list. I've killfiled anything with his email address in any header. I suggest everyone do the same. When he gets no responses to anything he posts, he will eventually go away, probably to where "Liberals Go To Die." If you encourage him, I won't see your responses. I don't wade through the blizzard of this list to have to wipe splashes of airhead liberal shit out of my eyes at every other step. GodILoveFiltersMonger II >> Hey, I requested off this list ages ago. Why don't you simply pull my subscription and we'll ALL be happy? :-) Stan

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'Virus Alert!' or 'Re:Stan the Savior?'
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

whgiii(a)invweb.net - << Yes Stan and you are here to "save" us all. >> If you look up in your definition of the word "save", maybe, EXCEPT, there's bound to be at least a couple of people on this list that don't need saving. ;-) But really, what I'm here to save, is your computers - ======== Subj: What if - God and SuperMan got into a fight - no, I found this on a Rush newsgroup - ----------------------------- Subject: If Rush was a computer virus... From: lotus(a)hogpe.ho.att.com (-R.CAPIK) Date: 21 Mar 1996 17:16:10 GMT What if there was a Rush Limbaugh computer virus. What might it do? What about some other political figures... ? Ron Capik [aka: the NJ Editorial Minstrel ] ----------- Forbes virus: Makes all your programs give 17% of their resources back to your system. We have no idea what the system will do with the resources. (Only applies to earned resources.) At a cost of millions (in un-earned resources), the virus runs for a short time then quits. <see Perot virus> Buchanan virus: All your icons move to the far right of your screen. Bill Clinton virus: Your pointer jumps back and forth across the middle of the screen, seems to drift to the left and you can't seem to pick any programs. If you have a sound card you may hear the sound of rushing [white] water. Limbaugh virus [aka: ditto virus]: All icons line up under the Rush icon where ever it may go. Bill Clinton #2 Icons turn purple and explode. (May be triggered by conservative input) Dole virus: We don't quite know what it may do, but it seems to have been in the system for a very long time. May cause system to enter sleep cycle. Perot virus: Ran for a short time in 92 then quit. It may also be active for a short time in 96. May cause space alien problems with daughter programs. Hillary virus: Causes text to appear on your screen years after you lost it. May trigger "Bill Clinton #2" virus. May also cause rushing [white] water sound. ---------- What if, Stan had written those virus descriptions? - Buchanan virus [aka - "Sap" (of the 'Family (Values) Tree')]: All your icons move to the far right of your screen, and then, any icon that depicts a face gets covered up by a white coned shape hat (and sheets, if the icon is of a whole person). The rest of the icons turn into pitch-forks, and swastikas. The (now) covered 'people' icons then grab the 'pitch-fork' icons, and run off the *extreme* right side of the screen. The swastikas remain on your screen, and cannot be removed, for they are burned into the phosphor. Your computer then logs on to America OnLine, goes to the 'government' forum, and then the (now) covered 'people' icons return (in groups), with the 'pitch-fork' icons, to the screen, and start attacking America (OnLine), starting with the 'government' (forum). The instant the Buchanan virus infects your computer, it attempts to kill all forms of the 'Jerusalem' virus (but it never gets them all). Limbaugh virus [aka - "Whiner"]: All icons line up under the Rush icon wherever it may go. As soon as 'Limbaugh' infects your computer, it (along with any other virus that will join it) attempts to kill the 'Clinton' virus, and the 'Hillary' virus (but doesn't succeed, only weakens them temporarally, then they become much stronger, and impossible to remove for another '4 More Years!'). Then it starts attacking any other viruses 'Limbaugh' thinks is vulnurable, including the viruses that had joined it in attacking the 'Clinton' viruses. The only viruses that the 'Limbaugh' virus has been know to truly rid your system of, though, is the 'Limbaugh' virus, and the virus' that believe that the 'Limbaugh' virus is a 'truth detector' type virus, or that the 'Limbaugh' virus is on 'loan from god', etc. The 'Limbaugh' virus self-destructs after 7 or 8 years (and it can't understand why). Gingrich [aka - "KingRich" (King of the Rich)]: This virus affects applications that have an ability to recreate previous commands given to that application while editing a document of that application, using a 'history' or 'undo' command. 'KingRich' attaches itself to the 'history' files, and selectivly changes certain portions in it. So if you make a mistake, and you need to go back and recreate your file before your mistake, you can still go back, but you'll probably find the icons that represent your best work that you had placed on the left side of your screen, now on the right of it, and those icons that open your worst work, and previously placed on the right, you'll now find that on the left. Gingrich #2 [aka - "CryBaby"]: This virus goes to the back of your pci, vesa,16bit, or 8bit bus, and makes your hard drive make a real loud 'whining' noise and your soundcard starts making a 'crying' sound through your audio setup or speakers. On your screen, 'CryBaby' places the message "I'm going to shut the system down because I had to go to the back of the bus!", and it causes your computer to go into 'default' (meaning, it causes you to lose your CMOS memory, and it restarts with power-on 'defaults'). And we now know what the Dole virus will do - Dole virus [aka - "Quitter"]: This virus attacks your hard drive, causing it to make a real loud 'whining' noise. Then it quits, and you never have to worry about it again. To learn how to detect and remove these viruses from YOUR system, register at - What's A Meta U (and What's It 2 U?) http://members.aol.com/WhatsMetaU ===== Stan

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Re: McKinney fax
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 98-03-24 11:02:35 EST, billp(a)nmol.com (of the cypherpunks) writes: << We believe that bureaucrats, court clerks and judges should follow the laws of the United States of America and properly perform their jobs. >> We (if I speak for others on the cypherpunks list, that is (I'm a guest)) believe that the laws Bill is talking about, is the "Constitution of the United States of America/Bill of Rights" For instance, Article VI part 3 - "3 The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." " ... but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." And, to the pbs newshour, we (with same exclusion as above) believe that YOU need to get a true voice from the left for your panels. Sheilds only speaks from a left POV 'some of the time' (and it ain't enough of the time.) And to Senator Lott - 'Have a happy father's day!' (President Clinton) Stan Rosenthal, FreeGroup - "Just Say It!" http://members.aol.com/WhatsMetaU/freegroup.html

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No Subject
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Hey, I requested off this list ages ago. >Why don't you simply pull my >subscription and we'll ALL be happy? :-) >Stan Because we are all laughing at you, you stupid bastard.

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No Subject
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

...and then there is the "StanSquncr" virus that prompts you to pawn your computer for a $20 crackrock. Two hours later, you find yourself on a street corner sucking dick for $5 rocks. I'm your REAL daddy, Stan.

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Chaffing and Winnowing
by Anonymous Sender 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Aside from the considerable overhead created by C/W, I observe a possible pitfall. suppose I start every new message at ID# 0. The first time I C/W a message everything works fine. The next time I C/W a message with the same MAC, I give some very juciy clues to what both messages were. This is because the item that the MAC applied to was an ID number and a bit. well, that bit is either zero or one... so any bit that corresponds between my first and second message will yield an identicle MAC, thus making it easy for anybody to seperate some of the wheat from the chaff, merely by simple observation. though in a real implementation, I probably wouldn't be so niave as to start every new message with the same packet ID, I point out that there's an upper limit on the amount of data that should be transmitted before a new authentication key should be arranged... that is assuming that the ID field was of finite size. Rivest mentioned in passing using a 32 bit ID. That's an impressive number of bits to C/W, but certainly not unattainable. -SM2k

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Your courageous stance...
by TruthMongrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I would like to congratulate and thank you for the courageous stance that you have taken by doing your part to help stop the spread of anarchistic and possibly illegal content on the InterNet by denying access to those who use the freedom and rights granted them by the Constitution to abuse those privileges. Your stance is particularly admired by those of us who share your interest in preventing the spread of free access to all types of information, in light of the fact that you have not shied away from persecuting those connected with the Circle of Eunuchs, thus possibly putting yourself, your family and your business in physical danger, as well as virtual danger. Given the current dissension within the ranks of the Cirle of Eunuchs and the Army of Dog, concerning whether their assault on censorship and censors should be consumated in CyberSpace or MeatSpace, there are few who are willing to put themselves in the line of fire to support the same ideals that other great Americans, such as Senator Joe McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover, have championed. Regardless of the possible physical danger you will be subjected to if the proponents of MeatSpace retruibution to censorship supporters win out in the current battle for control of the resources of the Army of Dog, your choice to submit to government oppressors and legal threats is likely the right one, since the government currently has more and better armed thugs than those who oppose them. TruthMonger III "Ain't no safety this side of the grave...never has been...never will be."

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Re:Stan the Human!
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 98-03-24 16:09:52 EST, mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com writes: << >Hey, I requested off this list ages ago. >Why don't you simply pull my >subscription and we'll ALL be happy? :-) >Stan Because we are all laughing at you, you really smart guy. >> Hey, I got my laughs too! Stan

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Kill 'em all...*I'll* sort 'em out...
by Timothy C. May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

----- Forward from TruthMonger III ----- I would like to congratulate and thank you for the courageous stance that you have taken by doing your part to help stop the spread of anarchistic and possibly illegal content on the InterNet by denying access to those who use the freedom and rights granted them by the Constitution to abuse those privileges. Your stance is particularly admired by those of us who share your interest in preventing the spread of free access to all types of information, in light of the fact that you have not shied away from persecuting those connected with the Circle of Eunuchs, thus possibly putting yourself, your family and your business in physical danger, as well as virtual danger. Given the current dissension within the ranks of the Cirle of Eunuchs and the Army of Dog, concerning whether their assault on censorship and censors should be consumated in CyberSpace or MeatSpace, there are few who are willing to put themselves in the line of fire to support the same ideals that other great Americans, such as Senator Joe McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover, have championed. Regardless of the possible physical danger you will be subjected to if the proponents of MeatSpace retruibution to censorship supporters win out in the current battle for control of the resources of the Army of Dog, your choice to submit to government oppressors and legal threats is likely the right one, since the government currently has more and better armed thugs than those who oppose them. TruthMonger III "Ain't no safety this side of the grave...never has been...never will be." ---- End of Alleged Forwarded Message ----- Despite the fact that the missive you are currently reading is an obvious forgery, I, Timothy C. May <tm(a)dev.null>, would like to exhort all of my fellow victims of forgeries by the DogMeister@Sympatico to form their own Cult of One chapter of the Army of Dog. Unless each and every individual who is concerned with gaining the liberty to exercise the basic rights and freedoms which come from being a unique participant in the universe which has formed them (and which they have had a hand in forming) steps forward to demand the right to exercise and manifest their values and beliefs in MeatSpace, as well as CyberSpace...uuhhh...has anybody seen my shoes? "We have met the future of rEvolution, and it is us." ~ Ogop Due to the heavy investment I have made in MeatSpace weaponry, I will be supporting the factions of the Army of Dog which are promoting a physical war against the enemies of freedom, but I recognize that those whose investment is in newer warfare technologies have an equal right to fight the battle within the slightly more infinite boundaries of Digital Reality. "The screens of freedom must occassionally be refreshed with a GUI- supported blood-color of digital martyrs." ~ AGuyTooLazyToLookUpTheOriginalQuote Despite the concerns of some members of the Cypherpunks Distributed Mailing List about the forged attributions of the DogMeister concerning the beliefs and stances of various individual list members, we all know, deep down inside, that Janet Reno's secret lover, Officer Furhman, is right when he whispers in her ear during their fuckmaking (in a manner that is a felony in the majority of states, which is why they only do it in Federal offices), "The CypherPunks may not be guilty of the crimes that TruthMongrel attributes to them, but they are all guilty of *something*..." Timothy C. May <tm(a)dev.null> "There is something 'Wong' when I have to send 'chop, chop' messages to an increasing number of posters to the Cypherpunks list."

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Re: Kill 'em all...*I'll* sort 'em out...
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 98-03-24 19:48:49 EST, tm(a)dev.null writes: << ----- Forward from TruthMonger III ----- <SNIP!> I would like to congratulate and thank you for the courageous stance that you have taken by doing your part to help stop the spread of anarchistic and possibly illegal content on the InterNet by denying access to those who use the freedom and rights granted them by the Constitution to abuse those privileges. Your stance is particularly admired by those of us who share your interest in preventing the spread of free access to all types of information <SNIP> concerning whether their assault on censorship and censors should be consumated in CyberSpace or MeatSpace, there are few who are willing to put themselves in the line of fire to support the same ideals that other great Americans, such as Senator Joe McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover, have championed. >> Ah yes, fits like a lock and a key. Pro-censorship guys also being pro McCarthy guys! After all, these "Know-nothings" today, are the 'Modern McCarthyites' (see my political page) Stan

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