December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Or is it Pat Robertson?
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sorry about the duplication, but I just decyphered something (is decyphering ok on a 'cypher' list? :-) ) - In a message dated 98-03-23 22:46:09 EST, StanSquncr(a)aol.com writes: << "You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the anti-Christ." (Pat Robertson - The 700 Club, January 14, 1991) >> You see, add 14 + 1 + 9 + 9 + 1 and you get 34. 700 - 34 is, guess what - 666! I guess that proves it! ;-) Stan

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Re: Or is it Pat Robertson?
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 98-03-24 00:31:09 EST, whgiii(a)invweb.net writes: << >You see, add 14 + 1 + 9 + 9 + 1 and you get 34. >700 - 34 is, guess what - 666! >I guess that proves it! ;-) Hmmm Louis Farakan school of Number Theory >> Hmmm, didn't seem to bother you when the same theory was used against Bill Gates! Not surprized, the response came from, you guessed it cypher's, another paranoid "Know-nothing" - << -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBNRdFpo9Co1n+aLhhAQFDpgP8CEFgqntvKfNWWXuPgo0M8pyvYMudl51p g/QyXmn2bs9WZ+3WYwDZlzvirKPa1LuDK85zUGGemMPbZQg2y7PSkyIi3F9kCqoC PLOnCW1ft2dbmiaRZxqbR6LcTU5Ti24XZoe70du0nz6M5vw8vPVW96ZCx0W9Vt2r DXkeg20YFYQ= =a5pE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Stan

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Re: Computer Expert Witness Needed *Immediately*
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:09 PM 3/23/98 -0800, "Roger D. Slates II" <slates(a)INREACH.COM> wrote, on another list: >A computer expert is needed immediately to testify as an expert witness in >an ongoing criminal matter in Federal District Court in Los Angeles. Kevin >Mitnick is seeking a highly credentialed expert in computer security, >telecommunications, system and network administration to testify in this >highly publicized computer "hacking" case. >This will be a groundbreaking case and is expected to attract significant >media coverage. Testimony will be required as early as March 30, 1998 in >Los Angeles, California. Further testimony will be needed at trial, later >this year. Expert witness fees will be paid by the federal court. >Qualified candidates must have an advanced degree and be knowledgeable in >DOS, Windows 3.ll, Unix (SunOs & Solaris), VAX/VMS, and Internet >operations. Experience with cellular telephone networks is a plus. > Previous expert testimony and/or publication are preferred. >Qualified candidates, please contact Mr. Mitnick through his appointed >defense counsel, Donald C. Randolph, Esq. at (310) 395-7900 or write to him >at: Donald C. Randolph, Esq., Randolph & Levanas, 1717 4th Street, Third >Floor, Santa Monica, CA 90401-3319. Email address is: >randlev(a)worldnet.att.net > > Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart(a)pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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Stan the Asshole
by Mixmaster 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Stan is an asshole, an annoyance on this list. I've killfiled anything with his email address in any header. I suggest everyone do the same. When he gets no responses to anything he posts, he will eventually go away, probably to where "Liberals Go To Die." If you encourage him, I won't see your responses. I don't wade through the blizzard of this list to have to wipe splashes of airhead liberal shit out of my eyes at every other step. GodILoveFiltersMonger II

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Hello
by Bill 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey Stan, how is the MLM business. Oh, lets not forget the adult WebSites also.

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FASTEST / BEST EXTRACTORS YET !
by aim＠cysnet.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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McKinney fax
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tuesday 3/24/98 7:14 AM Fax Cynthia McKinney 124 Cannon Building Washington, DC 20515 Office: (202)225-1605 Fax: (202)226-0691 http://www.house.gov/mckinney/ Dear Representative McKinney: PURPOSE of this fax is to verify whether or not you received our attached certified [Z 216 838 966] return receipt letter dated Thursday 3/12/98 7:34 AM with enclosures REASON is that the green Domestic Return Receipt card was returned to the Albuquerque Ed Dorado postal substation on Friday March 20 with no signatures or date of delivery. Postal employee Steve filled out a yellow tracer for item Z 216 838 966 and posted it. A federal employee in Washington DC following this matter on Internet at http://www.aci.net/kalliste and http://www.jya.com phoned on March 16 to advise that the US federal government strategy is to provoke a citizen in the hope the citizen will do something illegal. Then the government will prosecute that citizen. The attached petition for writ of prohibition dated Thursday 3/18/98 addressed to Antonin Scalia illustrates a desperate attempt to entrap us. NM district judge Don Svet attempted to limit discovery in our lawsuit seen at jya.com. Svet's ORDER violates the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Svet attempts to sanction us for violating his illegal ORDER. Bureaucrats, court clerks, and judges not who do not respond to lawfully submitted requests create the impression that there is no administrative or legal remedy left for a citizen in the US. Government lawyers frequently, if not most often, initiate a conflict with the citizen. The citizen is led to believe that he or she must employ a lawyer to have any hope to prevail with legal or administrative remedy. We believe that bureaucrats, court clerks and judges should follow the laws of the United States of America and properly perform their jobs. We ask your and other congress members' help to make bureaucrats, court clerks and judges do their jobs properly. First by getting copies of Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals docket sheets No. 94-2205, Payne v Sandia and 95-2204, Morales v Sandia to us. Sincerely, Arthur R. Morales William H. Payne 1023 Los Arboles NW 13015 Calle de Sandias NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 Albuquerque, NM 87111 Distribution Ben Nighthorse Campbell administrator(a)campbell.senate.gov Ernest Hollings senator(a)hollings.senate.gov Trent Lott senatorlott(a)lott.senate.gov Richard Shelby senator(a)shelby.senate.gov Charles Robb Senator_Robb(a)robb.senate.gov Jim Lehrer newshour(a)pbs.org Thursday 3/12/98 7:34 AM Certified - Return Receipt Requested Cynthia McKinney 124 Cannon Building Washington, DC 20515 Office: (202)225-1605 Fax: (202)226-0691 http://www.house.gov/mckinney/ Dear Representative McKinney: PURPOSE of this letter is to ask your help for us to obtain copes of docket sheets from the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals for cases No. 94-2205, Payne v Sandia and 95-2204, Morales v Sandia. All of our legal efforts to obtain these documents, which any citizen has a right to, have failed. REASON you are selected to help is that you appear to be knowledgeable about operation of the current US federal government and willing to speak out in an attempt to solve problems. You appeared Friday February 27, 1998 on PBS, The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, along with senators Campbell, Hollings, Lott, Shelby Robb and representatives Dana Rohrabacher and Harold Rogers. These senators and congressmen appeared not to support your views because they are either mis- or not well-informed about US involvement in support of Saddam Hussein. Stories supporting your view appear on Internet at NSA, Crypto AG, and the Iraq-Iran Conflict by J. Orlin Grabbe http://www.aci.net/kalliste/speccoll.htm and Crypto AG: The NSA's Trojan Whore? by Wayne Madsen http://caq.com/CAQ/caq63/caq63madsen.html Madsen begins It may be the greatest intelligence scam of the century: For decades, the US has routinely intercepted and deciphered top secret encrypted messages of 120 countries But NSA , and as a result the US federal government, apparnetly got caught involved in complicity of deaths of about 500,000 Iranians. This is the subject of a Federal lawsuit seen on Internet at http://jya.com/whpfiles.htm US federal government help of Iraq during the Iraq-Iran war may possibly backfire on innocent US citizens. The Wall Street Journal, March 10, 1998, pp. B1, B9. reports A Peek Inside a Giant Germ Warehouse By Rochelle Sharpe Rockville, Md. -- They keep anthrax bacteria in the basement of a faded red-brick building here. It isn't far from the yellow-fever virus, the botulism bacteria and some of the hundreds of organisms that cause the common cold. In fact, there are samples of 85,000 different fungi, viruses, cells, genes and bacteria here at the American Type Culture Collection, by far the largest of the 450 repositories of biological materials scattered around the globe. ... The ATCC legally shipped 10 vials of anthrax, botulism and other deadly substances to Iraqi scientists in the 1980s -- when the U.S. and Iraq were on much friendlier terms -- all with the Commerce Department's approval. ... http://www.jya.com/btn031198.txt The US federal government apparently intended these bioweapons to be used against the people of Iran. You demonstrated on PBS TV a quality identified by Francis Bacon The contemplation of things as they are, without error or confusion, without substitution or imposture, is in itself a nobler thing than a whole harvest of invention. by your statement about Saddam Hussein on PBS ...our man and our creation... Perhaps after reading the above materials and The Problem of Paradigm Shifts - Terrorism and the Threat From Weapons of Mass Destruction in the Middle East Working Draft Anthony H. Cordesman, Senior Fellow and Co-Director Middle East Studies Program October 22, 1996 http://www.csis.org/mideast/terror.html senators Campbell, Hollings, Lott, Shelby, Robb and representatives Dana Rohrabacher and Harold Rogers MAY NOW understand why you are correct and they are mis- or not well-informed about US involvement with Saddam Hussein. PROBLEM we face with the US court system is that court clerks and judges have committed Title 18 felony violation of law IN WRITING in an attempt to deny us monetary compensation due us for the cases WE WON at the Tenth Circuit on Appeal. But judges awarded victories to the US federal government in violation of Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure. Cases No. 94-2205, Payne v Sandia and 95-2204, Morales v Sandia were both won pro se on appeal. We have filed a writ of mandamus with supreme court judge Scalia in an attempt to get the docket sheets for the two above cases. But Scalia will not answer our certified letters. Senator McCain wrote Payne on December 23, 1997 I wanted to take this opportunity of than you for you letter of December 3, 1997. Your situation is in the jurisdiction of Senator Pete Dominici. Therefore, I have forwarded you letter to his attention. William, I hope you situation can be resolved favorably. Lawyers and politicians Dominici and Bingaman are part of a problem not a solution. Dominici and Bingaman have the following agenda University of New Mexico Bureau for Business and Economic Research reported on October 14, 1997: A The Gross State Product of New Mexico is $37.8 billion. B The US Federal government sends $11.3 billion to New Mexico each year. C For each $1 New Mexico sends to Washington, New Mexico gets $2 back. THEREFORE, Representative McKinney, we ask your help to get copies of the docket sheets. Citizens of the US are becoming more upset with the behavior of bureaucrats, the courts [lawyers], and the US federal government. Some Americans have no other way to express their dissatisfaction with US federal government mismanagement of our country except by violence. Frederick Douglass either wrote or said on August 4, 1847 Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightening. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did, and it never will. Find out just what people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them. These will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress. We chose to use the words and law to hold government employees accountable. Please encourage Scalia to do his job. Help get us copies of the docket sheets. And even perhaps help investigate further and settle this American tragedy. Sincerely, Arthur R. Morales William H. Payne 1023 Los Arboles NW 13015 Calle de Sandias NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 Albuquerque, NM 87111 Enclosures 1 NSA, Crypto AG, and the Iraq-Iran Conflict by J. Orlin Grabbe 2 Crypto AG: The NSA's Trojan Whore? by Wayne Madsen 3 Swiss Radio International Audio tape, 15 May, 18 July 1994 Distribution Ben Nighthorse Campbell administrator(a)campbell.senate.gov Ernest Hollings senator(a)hollings.senate.gov Trent Lott senatorlott(a)lott.senate.gov Richard Shelby senator(a)shelby.senate.gov Charles Robb Senator_Robb(a)robb.senate.gov Jim Lehrer newshour(a)pbs.org

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Re: Or is it Pat Robertson?
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 98-03-24 06:43:54 EST, whgiii(a)invweb.net writes: << > Hmmm Louis Farakan school of Number Theory >> >Hmmm, didn't seem to bother you when the same theory was used against >Bill Gates! Not surprized, the response came from, you guessed it >cypher's, another paranoid "Know-nothing" - Yes Stan and you are here to "save" us all. >> And what planet are you on? I'm hear as the result of a big war I had with a moderator. << Twit. >> William seemed to accurately sign-off this time! :-) Stan

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Re: Stan the Asshole
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 98-03-24 09:06:28 EST, mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com writes: << Stan is an asshole, an annoyance on this list. I've killfiled anything with his email address in any header. I suggest everyone do the same. When he gets no responses to anything he posts, he will eventually go away, probably to where "Liberals Go To Die." If you encourage him, I won't see your responses. I don't wade through the blizzard of this list to have to wipe splashes of airhead liberal shit out of my eyes at every other step. GodILoveFiltersMonger II >> Hey, I requested off this list ages ago. Why don't you simply pull my subscription and we'll ALL be happy? :-) Stan

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'Virus Alert!' or 'Re:Stan the Savior?'
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

whgiii(a)invweb.net - << Yes Stan and you are here to "save" us all. >> If you look up in your definition of the word "save", maybe, EXCEPT, there's bound to be at least a couple of people on this list that don't need saving. ;-) But really, what I'm here to save, is your computers - ======== Subj: What if - God and SuperMan got into a fight - no, I found this on a Rush newsgroup - ----------------------------- Subject: If Rush was a computer virus... From: lotus(a)hogpe.ho.att.com (-R.CAPIK) Date: 21 Mar 1996 17:16:10 GMT What if there was a Rush Limbaugh computer virus. What might it do? What about some other political figures... ? Ron Capik [aka: the NJ Editorial Minstrel ] ----------- Forbes virus: Makes all your programs give 17% of their resources back to your system. We have no idea what the system will do with the resources. (Only applies to earned resources.) At a cost of millions (in un-earned resources), the virus runs for a short time then quits. <see Perot virus> Buchanan virus: All your icons move to the far right of your screen. Bill Clinton virus: Your pointer jumps back and forth across the middle of the screen, seems to drift to the left and you can't seem to pick any programs. If you have a sound card you may hear the sound of rushing [white] water. Limbaugh virus [aka: ditto virus]: All icons line up under the Rush icon where ever it may go. Bill Clinton #2 Icons turn purple and explode. (May be triggered by conservative input) Dole virus: We don't quite know what it may do, but it seems to have been in the system for a very long time. May cause system to enter sleep cycle. Perot virus: Ran for a short time in 92 then quit. It may also be active for a short time in 96. May cause space alien problems with daughter programs. Hillary virus: Causes text to appear on your screen years after you lost it. May trigger "Bill Clinton #2" virus. May also cause rushing [white] water sound. ---------- What if, Stan had written those virus descriptions? - Buchanan virus [aka - "Sap" (of the 'Family (Values) Tree')]: All your icons move to the far right of your screen, and then, any icon that depicts a face gets covered up by a white coned shape hat (and sheets, if the icon is of a whole person). The rest of the icons turn into pitch-forks, and swastikas. The (now) covered 'people' icons then grab the 'pitch-fork' icons, and run off the *extreme* right side of the screen. The swastikas remain on your screen, and cannot be removed, for they are burned into the phosphor. Your computer then logs on to America OnLine, goes to the 'government' forum, and then the (now) covered 'people' icons return (in groups), with the 'pitch-fork' icons, to the screen, and start attacking America (OnLine), starting with the 'government' (forum). The instant the Buchanan virus infects your computer, it attempts to kill all forms of the 'Jerusalem' virus (but it never gets them all). Limbaugh virus [aka - "Whiner"]: All icons line up under the Rush icon wherever it may go. As soon as 'Limbaugh' infects your computer, it (along with any other virus that will join it) attempts to kill the 'Clinton' virus, and the 'Hillary' virus (but doesn't succeed, only weakens them temporarally, then they become much stronger, and impossible to remove for another '4 More Years!'). Then it starts attacking any other viruses 'Limbaugh' thinks is vulnurable, including the viruses that had joined it in attacking the 'Clinton' viruses. The only viruses that the 'Limbaugh' virus has been know to truly rid your system of, though, is the 'Limbaugh' virus, and the virus' that believe that the 'Limbaugh' virus is a 'truth detector' type virus, or that the 'Limbaugh' virus is on 'loan from god', etc. The 'Limbaugh' virus self-destructs after 7 or 8 years (and it can't understand why). Gingrich [aka - "KingRich" (King of the Rich)]: This virus affects applications that have an ability to recreate previous commands given to that application while editing a document of that application, using a 'history' or 'undo' command. 'KingRich' attaches itself to the 'history' files, and selectivly changes certain portions in it. So if you make a mistake, and you need to go back and recreate your file before your mistake, you can still go back, but you'll probably find the icons that represent your best work that you had placed on the left side of your screen, now on the right of it, and those icons that open your worst work, and previously placed on the right, you'll now find that on the left. Gingrich #2 [aka - "CryBaby"]: This virus goes to the back of your pci, vesa,16bit, or 8bit bus, and makes your hard drive make a real loud 'whining' noise and your soundcard starts making a 'crying' sound through your audio setup or speakers. On your screen, 'CryBaby' places the message "I'm going to shut the system down because I had to go to the back of the bus!", and it causes your computer to go into 'default' (meaning, it causes you to lose your CMOS memory, and it restarts with power-on 'defaults'). And we now know what the Dole virus will do - Dole virus [aka - "Quitter"]: This virus attacks your hard drive, causing it to make a real loud 'whining' noise. Then it quits, and you never have to worry about it again. To learn how to detect and remove these viruses from YOUR system, register at - What's A Meta U (and What's It 2 U?) http://members.aol.com/WhatsMetaU ===== Stan

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