December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by westcomm＠teleport.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: More on the DES II contest.
by Thomas Womack 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>My greatest fear with DES II is that if d.n finds the key >early in the search, they may decide to sit on it until >just before the 540 hour deadline. If they are the only >group with a credible chance of finding the key (as far as >I know, this is the case), then their payback is maximized >by by this tactic, since the time limits for the June >contest are determined by the speed with which the key is >found in January. But the question is one of how fast the key-search can be made, not of when the key would be found - and I though the d.n website displayed a figure for keys-per-second. That it takes the network not very long to find the DES key 0x0809182395f8ee isn't a very interesting piece of data; the keys-per-second figure is more useful. Tom

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Re: Eternity Services
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 1/11/98 6:35 PM, David Miller (dm0(a)avana.net) passed this wisdom: >There is one thing that comes to mind that was just a topic covered >on this list and that is the use of cellular/wireless/RF/ham for >connections to said machines. > >Obviously, this would make seizure more difficult (and perhaps >increase the likelyhood of prior warning, if for example, cellular >service was suddenly cut off). > >I am currently studying some parallels between the established FCC >tolerance of ham radio self-regulation vis-a-vis anonymous >remailers. I haven't yetdrawn up my opinions, as they are still >being formed. I think that this might be one avenue to look down as >there is obviously a type of legal precident in what is >allowed/tolerated under obvious FCC jursidiction, whereas the >jurisdiction over IP is obviously still ambiguous. On the surface there would appear to be some parallels worth thinking upon with regard to ham/FCC. but the ham radio community for the most part qualifies under the category of 'sheeple'. Separate out the hotheads and idiots and you have a handful of forward thinkers who want to try to push the envelope held back by the vast majority of reactionaries. Even when the forward thinkers want to push the envelope within the rules, not even asking for relaxed or waived rules, they react with 'this is not the way we have always done it.' The FCC and the Washington establishment is well aware of this and that is why they more or less leave hams alone to regulate their own quiet little tea party. I cannot see the FCC looking kindly on the use by hams or establishment of a Citizen's Radio Data Service (as has been proposed several times through the years) to establish a secured delibrately obscured data network. As far as hams are concerned they are limited, right off the bat, by regulations prohibiting use of 'codes or encipherment whose purpose is to obscure the meaning of the message(data).' The ham self-regulation may be a precedent, but I don't think it would provide any leverage on this matter. Of course, there is always steganograpy ... one man's GIF is another mans data. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNLokrj7r4fUXwraZAQFbWAf9GtQyI1PSRO8H4Iyb5Wp4xrWzMKbZuIHx rdQtM3wEjL0l64u5gCFb082GDZWYJcj0wcehaLMn9BOp8QrooiGv9XstHqlHNYjL /0dLTS4CT/qKkUl/68yqjB5i1KbDip1cO74dCcBVt/8G1S3IcjAGYP1V3nJtxwJ6 GlLjel9qQW4zzvnBOtQiD7HzU6V2FK5lIMa87zfuNvcREdlfyHG1L169sSq5CZEU XT7HGxrXsmfnolgFPMqVrcIYlccc+m6vx6MmPY8XIM7vU1ybDk9wDC75Eg2aSZVw 5fQn6CogpnootVHczSog3xg3RDZkgmm0xhArbBdBNjopxScEUvIjFg== =m+3f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn." -Alvin Toffler

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List of reliable remailers
by Raph Levien 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I operate a remailer pinging service which collects detailed information about remailer features and reliability. To use it, just finger remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu There is also a Web version of the same information, plus lots of interesting links to remailer-related resources, at: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~raph/remailer-list.html This information is used by premail, a remailer chaining and PGP encrypting client for outgoing mail. For more information, see: http://www.c2.org/~raph/premail.html For the PGP public keys of the remailers, finger pgpkeys(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu This is the current info: REMAILER LIST This is an automatically generated listing of remailers. The first part of the listing shows the remailers along with configuration options and special features for each of the remailers. The second part shows the 12-day history, and average latency and uptime for each remailer. You can also get this list by fingering remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu. $remailer{'cyber'} = '<alias(a)alias.cyberpass.net> alpha pgp'; $remailer{"mix"} = "<mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek ksub reord ?"; $remailer{"replay"} = "<remailer(a)replay.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut post ek"; $remailer{"jam"} = "<remailer(a)cypherpunks.ca> cpunk mix pgp hash middle latent cut ek"; $remailer{"winsock"} = "<winsock(a)rigel.cyberpass.net> cpunk pgp pgponly hash cut ksub reord ?"; $remailer{'nym'} = '<config(a)nym.alias.net> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"squirrel"} = "<mix(a)squirrel.owl.de> cpunk mix pgp pgponly hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{'weasel'} = '<config(a)weasel.owl.de> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"reno"} = "<middleman(a)cyberpass.net> cpunk mix pgp hash middle latent cut ek reord ?"; $remailer{"cracker"} = "<remailer(a)anon.efga.org> cpunk mix remix pgp hash ksub esub latent cut ek reord post"; $remailer{'redneck'} = '<config(a)anon.efga.org> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"bureau42"} = "<remailer(a)bureau42.ml.org> cpunk mix pgp ksub hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"neva"} = "<remailer(a)neva.org> cpunk pgp pgponly hash cut ksub ?"; $remailer{"lcs"} = "<mix(a)anon.lcs.mit.edu> mix"; $remailer{"medusa"} = "<medusa(a)weasel.owl.de> mix middle" $remailer{"McCain"} = "<mccain(a)notatla.demon.co.uk> mix middle"; $remailer{"valdeez"} = "<valdeez(a)juno.com> cpunk pgp pgponly hash ek"; $remailer{"arrid"} = "<arrid(a)juno.com> cpunk pgp pgponly hash ek"; $remailer{"hera"} = "<goddesshera(a)juno.com> cpunk pgp pgponly hash ek"; $remailer{"htuttle"} = "<h_tuttle(a)rigel.cyberpass.net> cpunk pgp hash latent cut post ek"; catalyst(a)netcom.com is _not_ a remailer. lmccarth(a)ducie.cs.umass.edu is _not_ a remailer. usura(a)replay.com is _not_ a remailer. remailer(a)crynwr.com is _not_ a remailer. There is no remailer at relay.com. Groups of remailers sharing a machine or operator: (cyber mix reno winsock) (weasel squirrel medusa) (cracker redneck) (nym lcs) (valdeez arrid hera) This remailer list is somewhat phooey. Go check out http://www.publius.net/rlist.html for a good one. Last update: Thu 23 Oct 97 15:48:06 PDT remailer email address history latency uptime ----------------------------------------------------------------------- hera goddesshera(a)juno.com ------------ 5:03:45 99.86% nym config(a)nym.alias.net +*#**#**### :34 95.82% redneck config(a)anon.efga.org #*##*+#**** 2:00 95.44% mix mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com +++ ++++++* 19:18 95.27% squirrel mix(a)squirrel.owl.de -- ---+--- 2:34:19 95.16% cyber alias(a)alias.cyberpass.net *++***+ ++ 11:26 95.11% replay remailer(a)replay.com **** *** 10:06 94.93% arrid arrid(a)juno.com ----.------ 8:50:34 94.41% bureau42 remailer(a)bureau42.ml.org --------- 3:38:29 93.53% cracker remailer(a)anon.efga.org + +*+*+*+ 16:32 92.80% jam remailer(a)cypherpunks.ca + +*-++++ 24:14 92.79% winsock winsock(a)rigel.cyberpass.net -..-..---- 9:59:18 92.22% neva remailer(a)neva.org ------****+ 1:03:02 90.39% valdeez valdeez(a)juno.com 4:58:22 -36.97% reno middleman(a)cyberpass.net 1:01:28 -2.65% History key * # response in less than 5 minutes. * * response in less than 1 hour. * + response in less than 4 hours. * - response in less than 24 hours. * . response in more than 1 day. * _ response came back too late (more than 2 days). cpunk A major class of remailers. Supports Request-Remailing-To: field. eric A variant of the cpunk style. Uses Anon-Send-To: instead. penet The third class of remailers (at least for right now). Uses X-Anon-To: in the header. pgp Remailer supports encryption with PGP. A period after the keyword means that the short name, rather than the full email address, should be used as the encryption key ID. hash Supports ## pasting, so anything can be put into the headers of outgoing messages. ksub Remailer always kills subject header, even in non-pgp mode. nsub Remailer always preserves subject header, even in pgp mode. latent Supports Matt Ghio's Latent-Time: option. cut Supports Matt Ghio's Cutmarks: option. post Post to Usenet using Post-To: or Anon-Post-To: header. ek Encrypt responses in reply blocks using Encrypt-Key: header. special Accepts only pgp encrypted messages. mix Can accept messages in Mixmaster format. reord Attempts to foil traffic analysis by reordering messages. Note: I'm relying on the word of the remailer operator here, and haven't verified the reord info myself. mon Remailer has been known to monitor contents of private email. filter Remailer has been known to filter messages based on content. If not listed in conjunction with mon, then only messages destined for public forums are subject to filtering. Raph Levien

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Service denial attacks on Eternity
by Ross Anderson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > It is also likely in the extreme that a working Eternity service will > quickly be hit with attackers of various sorts who want to test the limits > of the service, or who want such services shut down. Exactly. When I first talked about Eternity, which was at either the 1994 or 1995 protocols workshop, I was walking back to my seat when Bob Morris (then at the NSA) said, from behind his hand in a stage whisper, `Kiddyporn!' Adam Back added: > the spooks / feds have a history of posting their own child porn if > none is available to seize Indeed, and a decade or so ago there was a scandal when it turned out that the spooks were using the Kincora Boys' Home in Belfast as a pedo brothel in order to entrap various local politicians. For them to say now that they need key escrow to suppress Kiddyporn is a bit rich! However the main threat is the court order - Anton Pillar or whatever - and the best weapon against court orders is anonymity. If they don't know your address they can't serve you the order or arrest you for contempt. Tom Womack: > I can imagine *use* of the service becoming a felony I mentioned in the paper that Mossad might deny Eternity service to the Muslim world by posting something rude about the Prophet Mohammed. One must of course create a lawful excuse for people to have Eternity software mounted on their system. Maybe in addition to the `public' Eternity service we should have many corporate or even private services, many of which have escrow capabilities and are thus clearly law-abiding and accountable :-) There are many other possibilities. One topic that oozes into my consciousness from time to time is that one might integrate covert communications and storage with an anti-spam mail program - maybe a natural way forward if Adam hides Eternity traffic in spam! Tim again: > Great idea, but where are the customers? Some 90% of security research effort is on confidentiality, 9% on authenticity and 1% on availability. Corporate infosec expenditures are exactly the other way round, and tools to enable disaster recovery databases to be spread holographically over a company's PCs could save a fortune compared with the cost of some current arrangements. If a few of these backup resources have hidden directories that mount the public Eternity service, then who can tell? At the Info Hiding Workshop at Portland in April, I will present a new idea which may facilitate such implementations of Eternity. This is the Steganographic File System - designed to provide you with any file whose name and password you know. If you don't know this combination, then you can't even tell that the file is there. We do not need to make any assumptions about tamper resistance; it can be done using suitable mathematics. (This is joint work with Roger Needham and Adi Shamir.) Ross PS: we need a better word for `eternityspace', and Bell Labs have already trademarked `Inferno'. So what - Nirvana? Valhalla?

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Clinton in Texas last Friday (1/9/98, 6 pm CST)
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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College freshmen political interest at a nadir [CNN] (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From owner-austin-cpunks(a)ssz.com Mon Jan 12 13:31:10 1998 From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> Message-Id: <199801121930.NAA22376(a)einstein.ssz.com> Subject: College freshmen political interest at a nadir [CNN] To: cypherunks(a)ssz.com Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:30:47 -0600 (CST) Cc: austin-cpunks(a)ssz.com (Austin Cypherpunks) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2144 Sender: owner-austin-cpunks(a)ssz.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: austin-cpunks(a)ssz.com Forwarded message: > POLITICAL INTEREST AMONG COLLEGE FRESHMEN AT NEW LOW > > Graphic January 12, 1998 > Web posted at: 1:37 p.m. EST (1837 GMT) > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- It is not easy peddling politics on a college > campus nowadays. Even talking about the issues is a turnoff, > according to a nationwide survey of freshmen. > > An annual study by the University of California, Los Angeles, for > the Washington-based American Council on Education found a record > low number of college freshmen showing much interest in politics. > > Just 27 percent of the nation's 1.6 million freshmen believed that > keeping up with political affairs is a very important life goal, > less than half the percentage recorded in 1966. Just 14 percent said > they frequently discussed politics, down from 30 percent in 1968. [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Economic spies increase US activity [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > ECONOMIC SPIES INCREASE ACTIVITY IN U.S. > > Economics Graphic January 12, 1998 > Web posted at: 11:38 a.m. EST (1638 GMT) > > LOS ANGELES (Reuters) -- Governments of at least 23 countries > including Germany, Russia, China, France and Israel have stepped up > their economic espionage against U.S.-based companies, the Los > Angeles Times, quoting the FBI, reported Monday. > > The newspaper said a new survey conducted by the American Society > for Industrial Security estimated that intellectual property losses > from foreign and domestic espionage may have exceeded $300 billion > in 1997 alone. > > More than 1,100 documented incidents of economic espionage and 550 > suspected incidents that could not be fully documented were reported > last year by major companies in a survey conducted by the society, > The Los Angeles Times said. It said it had obtained results of the > survey which was scheduled to be released Wednesday. > > A 1996 Economic Espionage Act makes theft of proprietary economic > information in the United States a felony punishable by a $10 > million fine and 15-year prison sentence. [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Attn: Jeremy Day - your nameserver isn't working...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I received traffic from a 'Jeremy Day' in the process of attempting a reply I find his nameserver is not responding. Forwarded message: > From jeremy(a)servers.toh Mon Jan 12 13:52:35 1998 > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:20:46 +0000 ( ) > From: Jeremy Day <jeremy(a)servers.toh> > To: ravage(a)ssz.com > Subject: Re: A further thought on free markets & anarchy... > Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980112190746.17818A-100000(a)fnord.servers.toh> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As to the specific issue that Jeremy raised in his note. I have no interest in carrying on a private discussion on this topic. If you would like to re-submit your post to the CDR I will respond to the points raised publicly. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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