December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

re: Drivers Licenses
by WebWarrior3＠InfoWar.Com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>In most states it's a felony to modify or alter a drivers license, >they are considered the property of the state and not yours personaly. > >Next time a cop asks for ID and you hand him your d.l. you could be in for a >lot more than couple hundred dollars and a ticket. That's silly! I mess up my credit card strips all the time by keeping them in my pocket with keys on motorcycle rides, or in my tool belt when I used to do carpentry, or even slipping them into my money clip the wrong side out....the tape has never lasted longer than a month on any of my cards...I doubt, seriously, that a cop will harrass anyone who does not come out and say, "Yes, officer, I intentionally defaced my DL. And ya know why, Mr. Poleesse Man? Well, I'll tell ya <yadda, yadda, yadda, privacy, yadda, yadda, biometrics, yadda....>" I do agree that it is proably better to do the damage without it being noticable. Less suspicion is ALWAYS better. Best, -S

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re: Drivers Licenses (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 20:44:58 -0500 > From: "WebWarrior3(a)InfoWar.Com" <WebWarrior3(a)InfoWar.Com> > Subject: re: Drivers Licenses > That's silly! I mess up my credit card strips all the time by keeping > them in my pocket with keys on motorcycle rides, or in my tool belt when > I used to do carpentry, or even slipping them into my money clip the > wrong side out....the tape has never lasted longer than a month on any > of my cards...I doubt, seriously, that a cop will harrass anyone who > does not come out and say, "Yes, officer, I intentionally defaced my > DL. And ya know why, Mr. Poleesse Man? Well, I'll tell ya <yadda, > yadda, yadda, privacy, yadda, yadda, biometrics, yadda....>" > > I do agree that it is proably better to do the damage without it being > noticable. Less suspicion is ALWAYS better. Well I just looked at my Tx. d.l. to make shure my memory was correct. At least on Texas d.l's the *only* way to get to the mag stripe is to break the clear plastic laminating cover. And I assure you that if that cover is broken or tampered with the officer will become much more suspicous. It has this nifty little seal embossed all over the laminating cover on both sides. So going down to the local laminating shop won't work either. Proceed at your own risk, it's your neck after all. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: re: Driver Licenses (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 04:22:54 +0100 (MET) > Subject: Re: re: Driver Licenses (fwd) > From: nobody(a)REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) > "Yeah, officer, I dropped my ID in the street and it got run over. Don't > give me such a hard time about it, I'm just glad I got it back..." > I really doubt you are going to get convicted for accidently dropping your > wallet because your ID got scraped up a little bit on the back side. See a previous post I submitted earlier in this regards... > Seriously, the best way is a strong magnet. You can also put it in your > shirt pocket and iron it, then apply a strong magnet. The heat will make > it lose its magnetism more quickly; just make shure you don't melt it. :) The 'Currie Point' (the point a magnetic material looses its magnetic behaviour) for Iron Oxide is 600F so I rather doubt your home clothing iron will significantly effect it. The plastic that the license is made of will melt at about 250 - 300. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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re: Drivers Licenses (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii(a)invweb.net> > Date: Sun, 08 Feb 98 21:25:30 -0500 > Subject: re: Drivers Licenses (fwd) > A couple of times through the washer and dryer and that lamination > seperates. Any cop that has worked traffic has seen plenty of DL's in this > shape (heh should have seen my old DL when I truned it in to get it > renewed <g>). I rather doubt that. I have had a Texas drivers license since I was 16, I'm now 38. I have washed them innumerable times and I have never had the lamination break or otherwise degrade. The lamination is quite heavy. I did have one crack at the seam one time because of a bad lamination and was specificaly instructed by the officer who wrote me a speeding ticket to get it replaced. I did so immediately. The law here is that if the license is damaged, you move, or otherwise make the information invalid you have 30 days to correct it. I suspect quite strongly that had I shown up at the court house to pay that ticket with the same damaged license (required to be shown at the time of payment) they would not have accepted the payment and might have asked to to discuss the situation with one of the officers they so thoughtfuly have placed about the room. Texas takes counterfeiting of licenses quite seriously. My suggestion would be don't try such juvenile tricks here, the DPS have seen it before and won't be pleasant people to deal with unless you're a juvenile. I have a proposal. Lucky is supposed to be in Austin for the CFP conference. If he is agreeable, he could ask to examine a Tx. d.l. We could leave it up to his opinion as to whether these would be easy to alter. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Odd. When I first got a card with the stripe, I was a little paranoid so >I took a bar magnet and erased it. Actually, I don't know whether my >eraser worked because nobody has ever asked to swipe my card thru a >reader. I got a wallet with a plastic fold-out so if someone asks to see >my id, I open my wallet and show it to them, then put it away. How many of us have done this? I nuked mine in the parking lot of the DMV.

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Re: Soft Tempest
by Ryan Lackey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone interested in working on this for linux? It should be fairly trivial to modify the linux console drivers, disk driver, and possibly keyboard driver to take these changes into account. At the same time, it might be nice to add the permanence counters for RAM and magnetic media. I'm a bit busy until at least after FC '98, or I'd do it myself. One of my goals is to keep my laptop as secure as possible, and that's an application where TEMPEST shielding is rather prohibitive. -- Ryan Lackey rdl(a)mit.edu http://mit.edu/rdl/

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Laptop TEMPEST
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Doesn't the FCC have to test the RF emissions of all laptops as well as monitors for sale as Class A and Class B in the US? Shouldn't that material be available? I searched the main site, www.fcc.gov, but didn't find anything regarding this. I sent a request for instructions on how to obtain the emissions test results on computer monitors and laptops for commercial and non-commercial use, foia(a)fcc.gov. If anyone actualy knows of the location I would be much obliged if you would pass it along. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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time to learn chinese?
by Adam Back 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Listened to an analyst on the radio expressing view that towards 2010 China will be leading world economic power. Anyway interesting was that the analyst expressed that in her view China was keen to avoid the mistakes of the socialist welfare state as market liberalization and prosperity grew. She considered the burden of a welfare state to be a large burden which would mean that China would outstrip growth in the west. Also she stated that she thought democracy was in decline. When interviewed asked about human rights, she opined that these would improve as the market became freer. She stated that China hopes to bypass democracy going straight to free market. China may be interesting in a few more decades... Adam

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Re: Laptop TEMPEST
by Ryan Lackey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FCC RF/EMC testing is well nigh useless for TEMPEST protection. Compliance engineering firms have some equipment which might be useful for TEMPEST experimentation, but the actual specs for Class B (Class A is basically anything that won't kill you) are pretty worthless for this application. I imagine there may be some other "dual use" technologies through for testing TEMPEST equipment. Perhaps some medical equipment has stringent stray emanation specs? I believe the equipment you'd really want is the real "TS" (technical surveillance) gear, which is 1) not available on the open market and 2) expensive. The paper seems to have involved an AM radio and an obsolete piece of British TS kit; van Eck used a modified TV. Any HAM could probably build a suitable receiver, the real problem is knowing how much attenuation is necessary to defeat the real TS gear. This is why I am fundamentally impressed by the obfuscation techniques from the paper, rather than just straight shielding. -- Ryan Lackey rdl(a)mit.edu http://mit.edu/rdl/

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re: Drivers Licenses
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Choate wrote: >> From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii(a)invweb.net> >> >> A couple of times through the washer and dryer and that >> lamination seperates. Any cop that has worked traffic >> has seen plenty of DL's in this shape (heh should have >> seen my old DL when I truned it in to get it renewed <g>). > > I rather doubt that. I have had a Texas drivers license > since I was 16, I'm now 38. I have washed them innumerable > times and I have never had the lamination break or > otherwise degrade. The lamination is quite heavy. I did > have one crack at the seam one time because of a bad > lamination and was specificaly instructed by the officer > who wrote me a speeding ticket to get it replaced. I did > so immediately. "Yes SIR!" > The law here is that if the license is damaged, you move, > or otherwise make the information invalid you have 30 > days to correct it. "Yes SIR!" > I suspect quite strongly that had I shown up at the > court house to pay that ticket with the same damaged > license (required to be shown at the time of payment) > they would not have accepted the payment and might have > asked to to discuss the situation with one of the > officers they so thoughtfuly have placed about the room. "Yes SIR!" > Texas takes counterfeiting of licenses quite seriously. "Yes SIR!" > My suggestion would be don't try such juvenile tricks here, "No, SIR!" > the DPS have seen it before "Yes SIR!" > and won't be pleasant people to deal with unless you're > a juvenile. "No SIR!" This is one of the things I love so about Texas and Texans. Despite inexplicable rumors and propaganda about independence and rugged frontier indivuality, Texans are as fucking obedient to authority as the most lock-stepped fucking Germans. The People's Republic of Texas is on the leading edge of Big Brother statism. Sales tax fully as high as New York's, fingerprints at driver license renewal time, roadblocks to fish for people who have been indulging in adult beverages or who have outstanding warrants, and some of the most dumb-fuck, clueless, fuckwit people behind badges in the known universe. Texans will give anyone their SS number at any time for any reason. Many print it on their checks. Texas is without doubt the Rube State. The only reason it isn't on the bleeding foreskin of Big Brother technology is that there aren't enough clues in the state to rub together to make a spark. When you run into anyone halfway sharp or better in Texas, it's a cinch they are a refugee from the unforgiving North.

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