December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

attila & maureen on Bubba
by Attila T. Hun 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html><head> <title> Attila & Maureen on Clinton </title> <META name="Author" content="Attila T. Hun & Maureed Dowd"> <META name="Generator" CONTENT="by Attila's hand"> <META name="KeyWords" CONTENT="Clinton,Maureen,Dowd,oral,sex,scandal"> <META Name="Description" CONTENT="Comment on Maureen's comments on Clinton Oval Office Sex Scandal"> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Reply-to" CONTENT="attila(a)hun.org"> <META http-equiv="PICS-Label" content='(PICS-1.1 "http://www.classify.org/safesurf/" l by "attila(a)hun.org" r (SS~~000 3))'> </head> <body border=0 bgcolor="f0f0e0" text="black" link="blue" vlink="purple" alink="purple"> <a name="top"></a> <center> <table width=800 align=center valign=top cols=5> <tr height=5> <td bgcolor="f0f0e0" align=center valign=middle width=10>   </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0a0" align=center valign=middle width=5>   </td> <td align=left valign=middle>   </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0a0" align=center valign=middle width=5>   </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0e0" align=center valign=middle width=10>   </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="f0f0e0" align=center valign=middle width=10>   </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0a0" align=center valign=middle width=5>   </td> <td align=left valign=top> <center> Clinton's Achilles' Heel </center> <blockquote> well, this may finally do it for Clinton. if he was not so stupid, he would pack out of white house in the middle of the night, pick up his ill-gotten gains from Switzerland, or wherever he has them stashed, and disappear into the night --but, no, he might be forced to settle for Hillary-- which would be revenge served up cold --they deserve each other. if the Asian crisis was not in full rage, and the US market shaky with worry, we could afford to dump Clinton in the dumpster --unfortunately, the spectacle of an American President actually being successfully impeached will probably blow the American and European markets right out of the water --and the American economy with it --that just might be Clinton's lasting legacy. he may deserve that footnote in history, but the rest of us certainly do not. the NWO powers behind our "throne" may have needed a patsy after their main man became unelectable, but they certainly could have done better than bubba. you'd think they, or even the Democratic power bosses who were against him in the primaries would have done more evaluation of his bimbo patrol mentality before they committed. even I was a little skeptical of the "allegations" in the book "Primary Colors" (particularly to the Hillary affair) and I have been more than a little skeptical of the revelations of the "slave" courier/purveyors who have surfaced, but there may be more fire than smoke. it was certainly understandable why Joe Kline wrote the book as "Anonymous" --he must have been a cypherpunk-- or at least he should also have been using our anonymous remailers and nontracable digital cash. God save us from Al Bore. he needed to have a Spiro Agnew in his future, but Janet Reno saved his skin. he is a decent sort, but I just can not handle the left-leaning socialist son-of-a-bitch with his sanctimonious looks --he needs a circuit riding preacher's floppy hat and a mule-- even if he did go to Harvard. on the other hand, if Al Bore goes down, and they can not agree on a vice-president before Clinton either bales or is smoked out, we would have Newt --that might have been acceptable, except I think Newt either sold out or has been intimidated.    <a href="mailto:attila@hun.org"> attila out for the count.... </a></blockquote> January 25, 1998 NYTimes OpEd Columnist LIBERTIES / By MAUREEN DOWD Not Suitable for Children WASHINGTON -- There have been so many people rushing to TV studios in this giddy and cataclysmic week to talk about sex that networks are bringing makeup artists out of retirement. The palaver about whether a 21-year-old White House intern had a particular kind of sex with the President has gotten so graphic that CNN's "Inside Politics" Friday featured a warning that the segment might not be suitable for young viewers. Let's review what we've learned so far. The President a liar? Knew that. The President a philanderer? Knew that. The President reckless in the satisfaction of his appetites? Knew that. The President would say anything and hurt anybody to get out of a mess? Knew that. Married men cheat? Knew that. Married men cheat with young women? Knew that. Married men who cheat with young women lie about it? Knew that. Hillary isn't throwing Bill's stuff out on the White House lawn because she is as committed to their repugnant arrangement as he is? Knew that. The Clinton team -- those great feminists -- devising ways to discredit women who come forward with reports of Clinton peccadilloes? Knew that. The President and his minions dissembling and splitting hairs and playing semantic games and taking forever to find the documents until our attention wanders? Knew that. The President has the moxie to pick out a dress for a woman? Didn't know that. In the delirium of the scandal, something remarkable occurred. The President reportedly admitted, in a deposition to Paula Jones's lawyers, that, oh, yeah, by the way, he did have that affair with Gennifer Flowers, which he so adamantly denied during the '92 campaign. I still remember James Carville ranting at reporters for being low enough to pay any mind to her, calling it cash for trash. How can he go back on TV and defend Mr. Clinton in another sex scandal by once more trying to throw doubt on another damning tape? At least Mr. Carville looked sheepish. Mr. Clinton's famous rapid-response team seems to have bimbo-battle fatigue. The tapes of Monica Lewinsky, now 24, seem believable, not least because we heard it all before with Gennifer Flowers. Helping to get her a new job, telling her to say nothing went on if anyone asked. "Deny it," Mr. Clinton told Ms. Flowers on tape. "That's all. I mean, I expect them to come look into it and interview you and everything. But I just think if everybody's on record denying it, you've got no problem." The whole modus operandi is right there. Also, why did Vernon Jordan become a patron to a lowly Pentagon assistant if she was nothing special to the President? The reality that looms before the American people is not the impeachment of this President. It is the annulment of this President. He has finally determined his own place in history. He will be remembered as the priapic President. The Oval Office appears to be the bachelor pad of a married man who is the Commander in Chief. Like all addicts, this one is surrounded by enablers. Many Americans had accepted Mr. Clinton as a charming rogue. But the portrait that may be pieced together from the confessions of his willing and unwilling women now looks utterly uncharming. Ms. Lewinsky's nickname for him -- "the big creep" -- could stick. The Clinton doctrine may turn out to be nothing more than a view of the relationship of oral sex -- or Oval sex -- to adultery. CNN's Judy Woodruff reported that religious scholars could find no biblical basis for Mr. Clinton's purported claim to an Arkansas trooper that the Bible says oral sex is not cheating. Ted Koppel actually began "Nightline" Thursday with the following sentence: "It may . . . ultimately come down to the question of whether oral sex does or does not constitute adultery." Well, it sure isn't fidelity. When Mr. Clinton says now that he can't answer questions about sex, lies and tapes because he must hurry back to governance, people will want him to hurry back to self-governance instead. </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0a0" align=center valign=middle width=5>   </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0e0" align=center valign=middle width=10>   </td> </tr> <tr height=5> <td bgcolor="f0f0e0" align=center valign=middle width=10>   </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0a0" align=center valign=middle width=5>   </td> <td align=left valign=middle>   </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0a0" align=center valign=middle width=5>   </td> <td bgcolor="f0f0e0" align=center valign=middle width=10>   </td> </tr> </table></center></body></html>

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Re: Document destruction services (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi Igor, Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: Document destruction services > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:09:36 -0600 (CST) > From: ichudov(a)Algebra.COM (Igor Chudov @ home) > This kind of paper does not burn very well. I have tried it. Burning it > in my fireplace will take forever. A drum is an option though. Is the additive to the paper alcohol soluble? If so soak it in alcohol for a few minutes, say a half hour, and then burn it. Should go quite well. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Document destruction services (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: Document destruction services (fwd) > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:40:01 -0600 (CST) > From: ichudov(a)algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home) > > > This kind of paper does not burn very well. I have tried it. Burning it > > > in my fireplace will take forever. A drum is an option though. > > > > Is the additive to the paper alcohol soluble? If so soak it in alcohol for a > > few minutes, say a half hour, and then burn it. Should go quite well. > > Jim, try it. I am sure that adding alcohol will not help much, but will > make it a fire hazard. I have Igor, works pretty well for some paper additives. If it's a plastic base then use finger nail polish remover or model cement thinner. How in the hell can you say with a straight face burning paper with alcohol is any more a fire hazard then burning paper? You don't burn the paper while it's in the alcohol bath, but remove it and then burn it. If you try to burn it in the bath what you get is just like gasoline. The fumes burn not the alcohol itself so the paper doesn't get nearly hot enough to do any good. You're making burning paper, additives or not, a lot more complicated than it is. If you're that worried about it go down to your hardware store and buy a hand-held torch. Additives or not that will burn it. Good luck. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Uncle Sam's Sticky Fingers
by Gary Harland 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For a general run-down on just how much of your privacy the Feds have access to, take a look at the GAO's Investigator's Guide to Sources of Information (http://www.gao.gov) It's under 'Special Publications and Software'. Photocopies of any postal money orders you've bought? Your Amtrak train reservation history? Uncle Sam's got sticky fingers baby! He doesn't throw anything away. ----------------------------------------------------------------- foggy(a)netisle.net lat:47d36'32" long:122d20'12" "Rather perish than hate and fear, and twice rather perish than make oneself hated and feared." -F. Nietzche- -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Clinton needs a war with Iraq
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There are increasing reports, from Washington and Baghdad, that Clinton wants a nice little war action in Iraq, which would have the side effect of boosting his support...or so he hopes. If this happens, it may be time for hackers to use technical means to disrupt the war effort. --Tim May The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^2,976,221 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Sucking Sound...
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

No, it's the public and press, not the President, who are into denial about the nation's urgent succor. The President's radio address today was solely on Medicare fraud and abuse. http://www.whitehouse.gov/WH/html/1998-01-24.html Lucianne Goldberg's place is down the street and mobbed around the clock with global bloodsuckers. "There is a god," she says, noting fruitless years of the right trying its best to suckerpunch the toke-sucker. Which leads one to wonder who's squeeze gave what to Freeh's on Reno's, Starr's on Freeh's, Reno's on Starr's, that led them to gang up to divert attention to Bill's. Must have been Hillary's, aiming to succotash Al's.

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Barry Smith (FBI) to speak 3:30pm Friday, March 6 at UMBC
by Dr. Alan Sherman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The wwe page for Barry Smith's talk on encryption policy is now up: http://www.cs.umbc.edu/events then navigate to /spring98/crypto2.shtml Interested parties are encouraged to submit questions via email to sherman(a)cs.umbc.edu All questions are posted on the www page. See this page for details on a $50 www contest for the best question-gathering www engine. Contestants who are UMBC students may apply for CGI priviledges from Jack Suess (UCS), jack(a)cs.umbc.edu (For professional www programmers, this contest should be viewed as a request for volunteers to support UMBC's crypto seminar series.) Dr. Alan T. Sherman Associate Professor, Computer Science sherman(a)cs.umbc.edu

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Technology: R.I.P.
by Steve Schear 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A great article in today's Wired News Daily, by Virginia Postrel, eloquently explains why D.C. wonks are incapable even considering of any meaningful changes to the role or size of governent. http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/9566.html --Steve

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Burning papers
by ichudov＠Algebra.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Just for your information, I _WAS_ mistaken. The papers burned really well. My confusion about burnability of papers arose because in the past I tried to burn magazines, and not papers and letters. The whole big box is gone, after two burns. Burning is unquestionably better than shredding. - Igor.

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