December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: message dependent hashcash => no double
by mark＠unicorn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Steve Schear (schear(a)lvdi.net) wrote: >We all know we must affix postage to our snailmail. >Its time to embrace the postal system's paradigm and educate the reminder >of the Net. That's an extremely bad analogy; we're not paying for the Net to carry our mail, because we've already paid our ISP for that. We're paying for remailers to process our mail or for humans to read it. A better analogy would be for snail-junkmail to include a five dollar bill to encourage people to open it rather than junk it unopened. (Of course this really only applies to real digital cash, but that's what hashcash is a substitute for.) Mark

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Re: Hate speech in America
by Aryan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Robert A. Costner" <pooh(a)efga.org> >>I am a German patriot who wants to >>publish my ideas without of fear of the German goverment. >>But my concern is >>that the U. S. ISP I use can hand over my subscriber infoation and logs to >the >>German goverment. >>Does anyone know a U. S. ISP who does not censor hate speech >>and who has a _known_ strong privacy policy? >>By the way, is hate speech >>protected in United States? > >Hate speech is constitutionally protected in the US. That doesn't mean you >can do it from any particular ISP or in someone's living room. You seem to >have found protected email, you should therefore know who to post to >usenet. There are dozens of places you can get free web sites from, though >I don't know about their hate speech policies. I know Geocities, Tripod, Angelfire and few others who provide free web hosting. All these ISPs have policies prohibiting political and sexually explicitly speech on the ground of its content. That's obviously not a First Amendment issue involved. >I'd be curious to know of Geocities, Tripod, et all - where they have >kicked people off or not for hate speech. Yes. They have done so. Geocities is very censorious even regarding politically correct speech such as gay advoccy and Tripod has kickeda homosexual site of for violation of a clause in the agreement concerning "adult" content. I am searching for a commercial ISP who will not censor political speech and who will respect one's privacy. I am not a nazi sympathizer, but I don't believe in the holocaust and want to say it loud. In Germany and in other countries where the Jews have succeeded in creating "hate laws" you can get four years in jail for refusing to believe in the holocaust. I would like to set up a homepage with some "illegal" [within Germany only] content that would not be shut down by the German goverment. I am working on a book exposing the holocaust story that would *surely* be banned in my own "democratic" country. The unfortunate not-so-well-known fact about Germany is that we do not have freedom of speech. I often wonder why Amnesty International did not protest the imprisonment of Gary Lauck who was denied basic due process and human rights, including freedom of speech and association, by a kangoro court. [This message is cross-posted to de.soc.zensur and de.soc.politik to upset my dictatorial goverment].

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Re: Freedom Forum report on the State of the First Amendment (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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CNET Dispatch: gadgets; stop spam; IE 4.0 feedback (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 17:50:32 -0800 > From: CNET Digital Dispatch <dispatch(a)CNET.com> > Subject: CNET Dispatch: gadgets; stop spam; IE 4.0 feedback > To: DISPATCH(a)DISPATCH.CNET.COM > > CNET Digital Dispatch: gadgets; stop spam; IE 4.0 feedback > December 18, 1997 > > ******************************************* > Good things come in the mail...like cool portable computers, > mega speaker systems, and little digital cameras. Want more? > See our lead story this week, the "Geek's guide to gadgets" > (item 1). > > Unfortunately, bad things can come in the mail, too, such as > pointless junk mail and chain letters. Fortunately, you can > take control. This week's feature on stopping spam (item 2) > has our top tips. > > Rafe Needleman > Editor, CNET.COM > rafe_needleman(a)cnet.com ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Oh Boy! I just read Sheiner's Applied Cryptography, and I am ready to *do some code*!!! > > I would like to participate in the Coderpunks list. Can someone send me > information about the list. I am particularly interested in the current > discussion on Crypto Kong. > > Thanks, > -- > Matthew Cromer > > matthew_cromer(a)iname.com > > --

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17 Dec '03

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Is Unix dying--or even dead?
by S. M. Halloran 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From Edupage, 18 December 1997: <----------> TACTICAL SHIFT BY WORKSTATION COMPANIES Silicon Graphics Inc.'s plan to allow SGI graphics software to run on Microsoft's Windows NT operating system provides new evidence that a growing number of companies are giving up on Unix and instead standardizing on Windows NT. SGI hopes to be able to use its experience in developing high-end graphics software without having to spend a great deal of time building the underlying technology represented by an operating system. (Washington Post 17 Dec 97) <---------->

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Fwd: Re: Is Unix dying--or even dead?
by mj＠creative.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> >> >>>>From Edupage, 18 December 1997: >>> >>><----------> >>>TACTICAL SHIFT BY WORKSTATION COMPANIES >>>Silicon Graphics Inc.'s plan to allow SGI graphics software to run on >>>Microsoft's Windows NT operating system provides new evidence that a >>>growing number of companies are giving up on Unix and instead >>>standardizing on Windows NT. SGI hopes to be able to use its >>>experience in developing high-end graphics software without having to >>>spend a great deal of time building the underlying technology >>>represented by an operating system. (Washington Post 17 Dec 97) >>><----------> > >Fools. This will trap them into trying to compete with MS on its own >platform, which is what's killing everyone else. What they should do is >port to Linux, which should be much easier anyway, and give much better >results, since they can customize the OS to their needs. Does anyone have >any connections at SGI? I'm preparing a pro-Linux case based on my OOSI >paper that I want to promote around Silicon Valley. >> >> >

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White House admits censoring Chinese dissident
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

=========== South China Morning Post December 19, 1997 Storm over block on Wei TV broadcast; White House red-faced after censorship admission By Simon Beck The Clinton administration was in the middle of a firestorm yesterday after officials admitted blocking a global broadcast of a Wei Jingsheng interview for fear of annoying China. After winning praise for receiving Mr Wei in the White House last week, President Bill Clinton's officials were embarrassed to have to admit blocking the broadcast on the state-owned global network Worldnet. Officials tried in vain to stop the government radio station, Voice of America (VOA), from broadcasting the interview, but succeeded in blocking it from Worldnet. Both broadcasting arms are run by the official US Information Agency (USIA). The revelations have not only embarrassed the White House, but cast new light on the conditions with which Beijing asked Washington to comply in return for Mr Wei's release last month. The interference came after the US Ambassador to China, James Sasser, learned of the planned VOA interview and called the US National Security Council to express his concern. Mr Sasser feared the broadcast would break promises supposed to have been made to China that the US would not make political capital out of Mr Wei's release. He also warned it could damage US efforts to win other dissidents' release. USIA director Joseph Duffey confirmed Mr Sasser's intervention, and said: "After I learned it was going to be broadcast, I delayed the Worldnet telecast and I asked VOA not to telecast it, but they did anyway. "With Wei there was an implied commitment that our purpose was not political exploitation. That's a commitment also in the negotiations, which frankly now may be in the can." White House spokesman Mike McCurry said National Security Adviser Sandy Berger warned VOA director Evelyn Lieberman. "We would not make any effort to violate what is a very important principle - the editorial independence of VOA," he said. "At the same time, it is perfectly appropriate for VOA to understand what the consequences of some of its broadcasts might be from our perspective." Human Rights Watch Asia's Washington director Mike Jendrzejczyk was shocked at the "about-face". "We can only assume from this that not offending Beijing is more important to the administration than exerting pressure on China to release more dissidents and improve its human rights record," he said.

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