December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Brown != Blue
by BrownList＠GOPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Giving you a BROWN reason to complain. Get busy. This BrownList is harder to find.

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Gary Burnore Caught in own Trap (Long)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Belinda Bryan <eridani(a)ix.netcom.com> wrote: > X-No-Archive: yes > What those who are capable of looking at this with an open mind might > notice is that there is much more to this story than you and Mr. > Know-it-All Sam are telling. Excuse me while I rain on your parade and > repost some SERIOUS ANALYSIS from someone with a clue: What motive would Sam have for being part of the mythical "Spam baiting/ forgery/libel/teenager-abusing/cyber-stalking conspiracy" you've concocted? Could it be that Gary is now searching for another person to falsely accuse of doing all of these things, now that he and the first person he accused sem to have declared a de facto truce? Is Sam going to be your next victim? > > What seems to have happened here is that someone telnetted to the SMTP > > port of myriad.alias.net and forged E-mail from your address. If > > these are full headers, then this forgery did not involve remailers at > > all. The perpetrator has therefore run the risk of being traced. Which blows a huge hole in Gary's own theory that some evil "anon asshole" used a remailer to do it, thus justifying his anti-remailer witch hunt. And since you've chosen to quote that opinion, what were the results of that trace he mentioned? > Oh, my. Looks like that shoots yours and Sam's theories right straight > to hell, doesn't it? On to the next lie: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ How many do you plan to tell? > In case you missed it, let me repeat: "looks like somebody sent you a > message with a Return-Receipt-To: header set to > alt.revenge(a)myriad.alias.net. To which the broken, mis-configured mail server at DataBasix autoresponded. Why would Gary have claimed he was going to fix it if it weren't broken? > >What would be the point in trying to forge a Usenet post to make it look > >like it came from "mmdf(a)databasix.com", anyway? > > You're the one with all the fricking "answers", why don't you tell us? You might start with asking yourself who stood to benefit from this happening. You and Gary are the ones who keep bringing it up, because it's the only "evidence" you have to support your grand conspiracy theory. Thus far, all of your alleged "evidence" has proven nothing because it's all (conveniently) had truncated path headers. > >Gary Burnore's forgery allegations against Mailmasher are similarly > >suspect. > > Methinks you are confusing your alleged villains. Usually Wotan gets > the blame for closing Mailmasher and Gary and I get the blame for > huge.cajones. While I have a lot of respect for Jeff Burchell (and I've > met him personally, can you say the same?), I disagree with the > allegations he made against Wotan re: the Mailmasher attack. Do try to > recall that even Jeff said he was *speculating* as to what happened with > MailMasher and the software piracy fiasco. And you've got a better explanation of what happened? Right after Billy McClatchie went on his campaign to get Mailmasher shut down, someone signs up for a Mailmasher account, puts out a fake post advertising some "warez", then dutifully turns himself into the SPA to get Mailmasher in trouble. Just a "coincidence", right? And just because you, Billy McClatchie (Wotan), and Gary Burnore are all staff members at DataBasix, and the two servers that you three attacked in sequence were both run by the same person, we're not supposed to make the conncection? As Gary himself once said "There are far too many coincidences". He was at least right about that. > And if you think Jeff closed huge.cajones because of Gary and me, you > obviously don't know the whole story. But what's new? What you don't > know, you just make up. I've read Jeff's account, and you, Gary, and Bill "Wotan" McClatchie are the only attackers he mentioned. > >First of all, before planning the attack, somebody apparently > >didn't do his homework, or he'd have realized that Mailmasher was a > >web-based 'nymserver, not a remailer. > > I'll freely admit I don't really understand the difference between the > two. But I distinctly recall seeing dozens of messages with a from line > with *my* email address and a message ID of mailmasher.com. Like so: > > ------ > > Path: > ix.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!super.zippo.com!zdc!news1.mpcs.com!anon.lcs.mit…! > nym.alias.net!mail2news > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:22:07 -0800 > Message-ID: <199702060622.WAA09539(a)mailmasher.com> > From: eridani(a)ix.netcom.com (Mailbomb^me) > Comments: Please report misuse of this automated remailing service to > <remailer-admin(a)cajones.com> > Subject: Nuke Your Local Junk Mailer! > Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs,biz.mlm,alt.sex.erotica.marketplace, > alt.sex.erotica.marketplace,alt.sex.erotica.marketplace > X-No-Archive: yes > Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster(a)nym.alias.net > Organization: mail2news(a)nym.alias.net > Lines: 5 > > This message is not intended for humans to read. Other than a Message-ID and a Comments line (both forgeable), what indicates this came from Mailmasher? Why was Mailmasher not in the path header? You still haven't produced a single shred of evidence that this came from Mailmasher. You haven't even shown from any of the Mailmasher help files that Mailmasher even had this capability. In someone's haste to point the blame at the remailers' ability to paste From: headers, they chose the wrong target -- since Mailmasher was not a remailer and had no header pasting capability. Mail coming from Mailmasher accounts all contained a pseudonym followed by "@mailmasher.com". Access was via a web-based interface, and there was no place to specify a From: line. > You're an idiot and a liar. Engaging in ad hominem is an obvious attempt to divert attention from your lack of evidence. > First of all, Gary stubbornly didn't start > X-No-Archiving his headers until a couple of months ago. You should > know, Mr.Whining About Not Being Able to Track Gary Through Deja News > Anymore. Actually, in the beginning it was YOU, McClatchie, and the so-called "spam baiter" that used the No-Archive header. Gary didn't use it until later when he became worried that people could actually read his old posts and see how his story changed over time. Gary has apparently gone back and even had his old posts nuked from the archives, as well. Apparently Gary "I have nothing to hide" Burnore has reconsidered that stance. If someone wanted to forge a post to embarass you, would it make sense to hide it with a No-Archive header? Why limit the readership like that? > Secondly, it's not possible to forge message IDs with a piddly > Netcruiser GUI account. Netcruiser accounts can't telnet into an SMTP server, which is your theory of how the "forgery" was done? Also, you, Gary, and Wotan have shell accounts that are quite capable of doing many of the things you claim that your mythical "spam-baiting/forging/libelling/cyber-stalking/child-molesting" mega-villain is guilty of. You also once claimed that this person had spam baited "every known email address of DataBasix staff and customers". Who but a DataBasix insider would have access to that kind of information? > Lastly, it certainly is convenient that every single spam bait > posted--thousands between 4/97 and 11/97--contained the X-No-Archive: > yes header. Makes it really easy for someone with a vendetta to say, > 'oh no, they don't exist, because we can't verify them!' Conveniently similar to the posts of Wotan and yourself. And that quote is obviously the reason that you, Gary, and Wotan also utilize that same header, right? So that you can later claim that anything you post and later regret was "forged"? > That's an insane theory cooked up by someone with a very twisted mind. As are most of Gary's theories. > How many people posting anonymously have > been inadvertently denied an audience because of one IDIOT ruining it > for everyone? When have you EVER had a decent thing to say about anonymous posters? Can you cite even one instance? Are you suddenly trying to polish up DataBasix' image? Polish that turd all you want, and it still won't smell any better! > Have we "harassed" any > other remailers since then? Hhm? Why don't you _ask them_, mouth? Jeff didn't reveal your harassment of him until AFTER he had shut down his remailer and had no further retribution to fear. And we didn't learn of your attacks on Jeff's machines until Gary made a similar taunt back in June. > <cue follow up consisting of selective snipping in order to post more > lies and distortions> Stop your pitiful whining about "selective snipping". Anyone who missed it the first time can read your epic whine-fest by following the reference headers. That's what they're there for. And if they're reading this thread via DejaNews and can't, well that was YOUR choice, not mine. My posts are archived for all to read. --

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Re: Censorial leftists (Was: Interesting article)
by Jay Holovacs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:16 PM 12/3/97 -0800, Declan McCullagh wrote: > >Libertarians are self-governors in both personal and economic matters. >They believe government's only purpose is to protect people from coercion >and violence. They value individual responsibility, and tolerate economic >and social diversity. > Interestingly, New Jersey's recent Libertarian candidate (Sabrin) lost my wife's vote when his own ads portrayed him as anti choice. Several members of the religious right also call themselves libertarians. Sometimes what is meant is freedom from interference in the market rather than real freedom. Jay

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Sabrin in NJ (Was: Re: Censorial leftists ...
by Jim Ray 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 06:45 AM 12/4/97 -0500, Jay Holovacs wrote: ... >Interestingly, New Jersey's recent Libertarian candidate (Sabrin) lost my >wife's vote when his own ads portrayed him as anti choice. Mr. Sabrin also accepted political welfare (matching funds, a form of compelled speech if ever I saw one). This annoyed me, since he did it in a nationwide campaign for contributions claiming that this retreat from principle would give him a chance to win. As I recall, he got about 10% of the vote, and IMO didn't even deserve that. He was, however, another great argument for NOTA's (None Of The Above) candidacy -- as if another one were needed. JMR -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Freedom isn't Freeh. iQEPAwUBNIaaKzUhsGSn1j2pAQGjHAfQ1a1MJKRyDr7gBgR1nGCcbTrVvLTdQ5NZ Ce2Z4w1XPzb/6ml8uilPZE1/4oDCmwWH5R42NW6QmPpQjeQSmqh3cCApo11AeZ+/ ZRQQxD+SO3FtrnGXr+kGD2CniY6UxXBfzTYtAjpdv5roF4jkRxJwkd9px/GyZjCg jyKMTTaZTVoTfZUbadjFhyX14OjJ7gkbxFOkZKHBZ1lYes6fpW4Yj6V0selR6CKp 3jJHmHAJUgWbdwhaU3rIHpV5+7QKYyk7dFRblS5pC0p91rec5JDNAecfXYltwNwR YLTcg0gqYLIPOQi0MlJxXYBogKMbYxXC7a7YOQS+OiUUug== =7bMC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Anonymous Threads
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Something that I have found irritating about the posts by non-persistent identities is that it isn't possible to support a meaningful discussion as previous statements can always be repudiated, or maybe even weren't made by the particular poster. I compared this to sound bites. On second thought, however, there is an easy way to solve this. If the anonymous poster accepts the context of previous messages, the discussion can continue. There's no reason why the person behind the virtual thread has to be the same, but the context itself is important if we want to have interesting discussions. So, if you don't want to sign your messages, just acknowledge the message ID of the relevant previous messages whose context you wish to use. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm Subject: Anonymous Threads To: cypherpunks(a)algebra.com 25BA1A9F5B9010DD8C752EDE887E9AF3 [Cantsin Protocol No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Lieberman/Clinton
by Jeff Schult 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> >Well, this isn't entirely true. Some of the loudest voices in >banning/regulating crypto come from the left:Senator Lieberman, >Senator Feinstein,Rep. Dellums, the Clinton Administration in >general, etc. The fear of 'bomb making information' and 'terrorist <snip> Lieberman is hardly considered "of the left" in his home state -- he squeaked out a win over former Sen. Lowell Weicker by staking out positions considered to the right of Weicker and has stayed over that way. There have been recent articles in the Connecticut media speculating that Lieberman could become a Republican. Though that won't happen, GOP leaders were effusive about how welcome the senator would be ... As to the Clinton administration, if you can pin it down from minute to minute on the political spectrum, you're a lot faster with pins than I ... Jeff Schult Marketing Director, JavaNet http://www.javanet.com Internet culture and technology writer, New Haven (CT) Advocate

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Land Attack on Routers/Servers
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hackers Out for IP Blood with New Land Attack The Internet underworld last week unsheathed a new weapon capable of knocking out IP-based routers and servers, sending vendors scrambling to find ways to safeguard their gear. Land Attack, officially known as land.c program code, was posted on the Net by someone called "Meltman" and used last week in attacks on Cisco Systems, Inc. routers and Unix and Windows NT servers. Some of the targeted machines were slowed to a crawl, while others had to be rebooted. Land Attack represents a new twist on the dreaded "TCP SYN flooding" denial-of-service attack. But unlike TCP SYN flooding, Land Attack sends out just one sinister SYN packet in which the sending devices IP address has been swapped out for the IP address of the destination machine. When the destination machine tries to acknowledge receipt of the transmission, it ends up using its own address, which means it sends the message back to itself, resulting in a potentially fatal loopback condition. "If someone could find a way to use this Land Attack program to spread this across the Internet, it could cause major service disruptions," said Chris Klaus, chief technology officer at Internet Security Systems, Inc. ---------- More at: http://jya.com/land-attack.txt

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Re: [RePol] Denizen
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

TruthMonger <tm(a)dev.null> wrote: > Ralph Hotmail wrote: > > > > In a moment of boredom, I took the opportunity to check into "Denizen". > > I also read his posts under a number of names to the critical mass > > mailing list and their replies. > > > In saner moments, Beckjord runs the UFO and Bigfoot Museum. > > > > This is the person who wants to use BCC from an anonymous remailer to > > get his opinion to the subscribers of the Critical Mass list. The > > message is simple - if you help him out,you can kiss your remailer > > goodbye. > > Perhaps Ralph could help the anonymous remailer 'cause' by providing > remailer operators with a list of the 'bad' people who should not > be allowed to use remailers to promote their 'wrong' views. > Maybe Mr. Hotmail could also provide a list of 'bad' words and You're a dangerous person, TruthMonger -- you make people THINK. <g> It's interesting that he mentioned the "Critical Mass" list, since one of the arrestees in last summer's Critical Mass civil disobedience blockade of San Francisco streets was none other than anti-remailer gadfly Gary L. Burnore of the fabled "DataBasix gang". I don't know whether he's a subscriber to that list or not. But according to Jeff Burchell's account of last summer's attack on the Huge Cajones Remailer by Burnore et al, someone from DataBasix did request that posts mentioning DataBasix and/or Gary Burnore should be blocked by the remailer net. Chutzpah! BTW, Burnore just made a post to alt.privacy.anon-server yesterday that looked like an attempt to suck up to the remailer user community. Unlike his recent practice of butting into TECHNICAL threads about the how-to of header pasting via PI, etc. to accuse the poster of wanting the information in order to "forge" posts in his name and "UCE bait" him, he actually gave the appearance of being helpful. Of course, in threads posted in other NGs, he's still fuming about "cowards" and "anonymous assholes" who "hide behind the skirts of a remailer". He's also indicated that he'll have databasix.com back on-line RSN. His hasty move from San Francisco to Raleigh-Durham, NC took DataBasix off of the air for awhile. Heads up! --

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Re: Another of Gary Burnore's Lies Exposed
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

gburnore(a)netcom.com (Gary L. Burnore) wrote: > X-No-Archive: yes > :This puts all other claimed forgeries from a mail2news gateway, that you > :have taken an issue with, and used as a basis to form your claims against > :UCE-baiting, and such, as suspect. > > > Sure it does in your mind and I'm sure in the mind of the anon-asshole. Call someone an "asshole" all you like, but when you have to qualify that and call him a "black asshole", "gay asshole", "Jewish asshole", or "anon asshole", it only demonstrates your personal prejudice and bigotry. Your arguments are so weak that you must resort to ad hominem argumentation to divert attention from the facts. Repeating your unproven accusations over and over does not make them true. > All of that aside, the point is it has stopped since the remailers blocked the > address. Note btw, that the anon asshole is still claiming databasix does > this and databasix does that and yet databasix hasn't been connected to the > net since august. Are you claiming that all the DataBasix personnel no longer have access to the Internet simply because the databasix.com domain is down? Considering how lax Netcom is with their servers, any abuse you might allege could easily have come from someone with a Netcom account. You might as well reconnect databasix.com to the net because having it down is not a credible alibi -- not when most of the players involved have Netcom accounts, and a few even have shell accounts from which they could have run Perl scripts. > The issue now is as it was then. An asshole, posting anonymously, apparently > in an attempt to cause troubles for remailers at my expense is still at it. > > He OBVIOUSLY wants remailers shut down. I obviously don't. Your cute little conspiracy theory does not exactly square with the account of one of the remailer operators that you along with fellow DataBasix staffers Belinda Bryan and William J. McClatchie (aka "Wotan") harassed. Reread his message exposing your anti-remailer activities: http://infinity.nus.sg/cypherpunks/dir.archive-97.11.13-97.11.19/0432.html > End of story as far as I am concerned. Not as long as you want to keep it alive by claiming that you are a "victim" of some grand forgery, "UCE-baiting", "cyber stalking" scheme. Sam is right in doubting your claims that most of the things you allege happened to you even occurred. He pointed out that the one flimsy piece of evidence you've been able to produce more recently than February of 1997 originated from YOUR OWN DOMAIN! --

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