December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

i miss carol anne cyphergrrl
by Zooko Journeyman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

or whatever her name was. A dangerous radical named Steve allegedly typed: > Seems to me that having only a few, heavily trafficed, NAPs is a > topological weakness in the Net which needs to be delt with soon. The problem is economic. During info-peace-time non- robust networks are cheaper. Redundancy and other robustness techniques are an expense that doesn't pay back. During info-peace-time. Under duress-- be it accidents, load, or info-war-- such designs are inadequate. What's the solution? I dunno. Here're some options: A. Make design which is robust under attack but still cheap for everyday use. Not sure if it is feasible. B. Convince people to spend more on robustness of systems. But this is infeasible on a huge scale and in anarchic and uncoordinated social system e.g. Internet. C. Hire info-warriors to attack systems, hopefully doing as little permanent damage as possible but achieving enough penetration to convince even the most thick-headed manager that his system is weak. Hence I propose a fund, The Randall Schwartz Memorial Cracking Reward Fund, which will regularly award dcash payments to the cracker who most illustriously exposed the weaknesses of system. Scaring the pants off of the managers and leaders is a plus. Enlightening the public about the dangers of a specific system or technique is a plus. Scaring the public into thinking that all systems/networks/computers/software are dangerous is arguably a plus or a minus. :-) Doing permanent damage or unnecessary disruption of service is a big minus. Usually a calling card saying "Soo Do Nym was here" is sufficient. The pay-off could be instituted by way of an "Assassination Systemics" scheme (which is merely an application of Idea Futures, of course), in which the bettor who most accurately predicted the time and other details of the target system's penetration receives the bulk of the winnings. I hereby bet 10 cyberbucks that no clever hacker will be able to redirect "www.internic.net" to point to AlterNIC. Zooko Journeyman "We are an internation of code and not of laws."

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Re: VeriSign Granted First Federal Approval to Issue CertificatesEnabling Export of Strong Encryption
by Steve Schear 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:16 PM -0400 7/15/97, ptharrison wrote, on e$(a)thumper.vmeng.com: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >At 11:49 AM 7/15/97 -0400, VERISIGN PR wrote: >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>...allowing approved organizations to use 128-bit encryption >>... U.S.-based companies -- with servers located in the U.S. -- >> and international banks -- with servers located in the US and abroad -- >>... was granted approval after review and consultation >> from the National Security Agency (NSA) and Federal Bureau of Investigation >> (FBI). >> ...Companies will not need to escrow their keys in order >> to take advantage of this program. >> ...VeriSign...can ensure that...Global Server IDs will only be granted to > >> > legitimate businesses that meet the necessary U.S. government >qualifications >> Thanks to the cooperation of the U.S. government, we are now able to offer >>law-> abiding companies a legal alternative for secure communication and >>commerce." >> ... >> MICROSOFT >> said Mike Dusche, "The U.S. government is sending a strong message to the >world >> by approving these applications and we're happy to be working with them... > >Yes, and what might that message be? With this announcement, it has become clear to me what the US government is attempting to do. They are relaxing the export of strong crypto -- if you use a US-based certification authority. Why does this matter? Look at the Kerry bill. My guess is that they already know that Verisign will go along with a key escrow requirement, in exchange for protection from liability, and so their goal now is to put Verisign in the loop as much as possible. I started to think of the loopholes this could create -- US companies outsourcing web sites for foreign companies, etc. Then I realized: IT DOESN'T MATTER, as far as the US government is concerned, because they're going to have those keys escrowed. The Kerrey bill may not pass this go-around, but they are counting on something like this. The hard part, now, is to figure out how to explain this to industry, public and the press, without sounding like raving lunatics. We meed to make it more concrete. Remind people that certificates expire every year, and point them at the Kerrey legislation. Ask foreign banks how they feel about their transactions being fully accessible to the US government -- or anyone capable of bribing a low-level functionary in the US government. --Steve PGP mail preferred, see http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html PGP Fingerprint: FE 90 1A 95 9D EA 8D 61 81 2E CC A9 A4 4A FB A9 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Schear (N7ZEZ) | Internet: azur(a)netcom.com 7075 West Gowan Road | Voice: 1-702-658-2654 Suite 2148 | Fax: 1-702-658-2673 Las Vegas, NV 89129 | --------------------------------------------------------------------- God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; The courage to change the things I can; The weapons that make the difference; And the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people that got in my way;-) "Surveilence is ultimately just another form of media, and thus, potential entertainment." --G. Beato "We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." -- Dr. Robert Silensky

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Re: Censorware Summit Take II, from The Netly News
by Steve Schear 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Spooked by the threat of a revised Communications >Decency Act, high tech firms are seriously backing >labels for the first time. Joining Clinton in coercing >Internet users and businesses to label all their web >pages were Yahoo, Excite, and Lycos. "I threw a >gauntlet to other search engines in today's meeting >saying that collectively we should require a rating >before we index pages," Robert Davis, the president of >Lycos, told me. Translation: if you don't play ball, >and label your site, search engines will ignore you. These suggests that Yahoo, Excite, and Lycos might become tempting targets of a Net-wide DoS attack until they repent. --Steve

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Re: i miss carol anne cyphergrrl
by Peter G. Neumann 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dank U, Zooko! We are indeed on the horns of a dilemma. As long as the vendors can get away with crapware (with respect to security, reliability, robustness, etc.), there is no incentive to do better. In info-peace, most folks don't care. In info-war, the bad guys (on all sides) are delighted that the systems are flaky, and the good guys lose. However, the governmental incentives that exist seem to opt for dumbing down -- despite the realization that governments cannot get x-worthy systems to satisfy their own needs. Short-sighted parado[x|c]trinarianism abounds. Piet

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Re: The White "Compromise"
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The White Compromise is what I wrote about in my Netly piece last Wed? and my post of last night called "Congress & Crypto Roundup: Vote in Commerce cmte tomorrow." >From memory: The "compromise" would remove some export restrictions on crypto, provided that the program was readily available overseas already. It would not remove all export restrictions. (This is in the original SAFE bill, which it amends.) It also includes those four points I wrote about, including giving the FBI tons of $$$ to buy them off. More disturbingly, it doubles the crypto-in-a-crime penalties. The crypto coalition letter sent around last week was right on this point: representatives should oppose //all// amendments to SAFE, including the White so-called "compromise." -Declan At 10:07 -0400 9/24/97, Scott Carr wrote: > I spoke to a staffer of Rep. Strictland's office (a rural Ohio >district, I voted for the other guy last year, sigh...) and she did >not know the Congressman's position on SAFE five and a half hours >before the markup. Reading between the lines, he seems to be heading >for the White "Compromise". > > Now a question, does the White amendment remove export limitations >on crypto? Strictland's legislative director stated that was her >understanding. I thought it left the status quo in that regard. > > (I am hearing that damned word "COMPROMISE" too many times talking >to these jokers for my comfort. The only compromise I see is the >compromising of my data and security.)

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Not worried? You will be... (fwd from Yucks)
by Adam Shostack 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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NewSpeak: TIS RecoverKey
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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REminder: Physical meet this Wednesday
by Christian Claborne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The last message had Thursday in the subject... It's Wednesday. 2 -- C -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This Wednesday!!! San Diego Area CPUNKS symposium Wednesday, Sep. 24, 1997. Topic: What action do we take if the situation get's out of hand (See message below from Mark H. below). It is my belief that any group, no matter how small, can accomplish great things if they apply themselves. Cypherpunks are not just "users", they poses several additional quanta of the stuff that enables creative thought, and skill. Don't forget to bring your public key fingerprint. If you can figure out how to get it on the back of a business card, that would be cool. If you want the suspicious crowd there to sign your key, bring two forms of ID. Place: The Mission Cafe & Coffee Shop 3795 Mission Bl in Mission Beach. 488-9060 Time:1800 Their Directions: 8 west to Mission Beach Ingram Exit Take west mission bay drive Go right on Mission Blvd. On the corner of San Jose and mission blvd. It is located between roller coaster and garnett. It's kind of 40s looking building... funky looking (their description, not mine) They serve stuff to eat, coffee stuff, and beer + wine stuff. See you there! New guy, bring your fingerprint. Drop me a note if you plan to attend... 2 -- C -- - ------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 16:04:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Hedges <hedges(a)infonex.com> To: all-at-infonex(a)infonex.com Subject: federal cryptography legislation Sender: owner-all-at-infonex(a)infonex.com - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- A bill called "SAFE" (HR-695, "Security and Freedom with Encryption") in the U.S. House of Representatives would have allowed U.S. software companies to export strong cryptography, and would have promoted privacy in all U.S. communications. Cryptography is mathematical means of making a message secret. Now, this bill has been rewritten to introduce more restrictive cryptography legislation than ever before seen in the U.S. Public support for cryptography use and export is very strong, as evidenced by the California state legislature's unanimous vote 9/5/97, calling on Congress and the President to revise and relax export laws (SJR-29). Companies world-wide already produce strong cryptograpy software, and U.S. buisness is rapidly losing ground in the world-wide software and telecommunications market. The House National Security Committee this week voted to continue export restrictions in the SAFE bill and to install "key escrow" proposals of the defense and intelligence organizations. This would not only continue the status quo legislation, it would strictly regulate and restrict domestic use of cryptography, an unprecedented act. Key escrow legislation in SAFE would mandate government "back doors" in all communications software before the end of the millennia in the United States, imposing criminal penalties for use of secure cryptography. Effectively, every citizen would be required to give law enforcement involuntary and transparent access to all communications, including financial, business, and personal messages. Key escrow also exposes all U.S. communication to a single point of failure, which a hacker, spy, or corrupt official could exploit to gain access to all personal, industry, and financial information. More information is available in our most recent press release. Press releases can be viewed at http://www.anonymizer.com/press/. Please, call your congressional representatives and senators and encourage them to oppose restrictive legislation on cryptography and mandated government access to all communications. Names and phone numbers for your local legislators can be obtained from www.house.gov and www.senate.gov. Sincerely, Mark Hedges Anonymizer Inc. Infonex Internet Inc. - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNBnJhBVo2SUWMp6NAQFyNQP/UuogfBfcjRw7q5rda8+1BrGkMEHpixau J7JfbhKyv5yWdPZsnh8F3m/kaUahLEaSdLCcmAJzbroKApGBjUtT6bRacOtVps3X TzZXLO2NZd4UBsksUC1f3WWnnRl8+03jiQMboSpBvUVmHqA1sFiz3OQpJVWv1yge jEEk7R2Maeg= =VrfI - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNCRRAIP1MBWQ+9udAQHNuAf/Wf/vf7O7A3iZhd9BjlzyI0FvcOTelUOs 5JhxXN0w86YWzoluZue8jY7uKmxGVuySdikQSw4OxLS5wZG05nByoIQlhlzLPYIl vrQuQZ0EeGIOycwS7IuNLFFyx+C1E7HxcdX0UR3qMDgEiiFb09DlcuDHeSp52RZW s6t7AFR7ZoVz28KanihgDRQdk9QTw0HuaZV3hHNl11610HaPURRe4SX7zgR1cHAf naoTZI70GqVoUVYVrm+oVHln7HsdFqnrO/1GAVpLzKpEnzfT9C0d0o7T4t/WX4CM yeeO2UZUwfg01VyCHORpFYbx1SrFlW4rZNZqOJMP2lA2cNDZBsLrhg== =/sWk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ... __o .. -\<, Claborne(a)CYBERTHOUGHT.com ...(*)/(*)._ Providing thoughts on your computing needs. http://www.CYBERTHOUGHT.com/cyberthought/ PGP Pub Key fingerprint = 7E BF 38 3F 24 A7 D1 B0 54 44 96 AA 10 D0 5D 51 Avail on Pub Key server. PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! Dreams. They are just a "screen saver" for the brain.

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Oxley crypto update: vote in 90 minutes
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Today's vote will be held in less than two hours. Keep in mind that this is just one committee out of five that's considering the SAFE bill. The impact of the committee's draft of SAFE is not nearly as important, IMHO, as the political impact of the vote. Can one of the nation's richest industries muster up the votes to defeat law enforcement -- in the //Commerce// committee, of all places? Many eyes will be watching the committee today. I hear that Oxley is nervous and has been calling people he never did before. His staff tells me that yes, he has been calling everyone on the committee. He'll be distributing letters of support from groups -- including law enforcement groups in California -- that will buttress his amendment. Oxley's staff tells me the version of Oxley II posted by CDT is almost certainly inaccurate and out of date. Solomon, chair of House Rules, is circulating a letter saying only SAFE with Oxley will go to the floor. The pressure's on. Rumors are flying that industry may cut a deal (perhaps brokered by White) that may give up civil liberties in exchange for export controls. We'll see soon. As of yesterday Oxley appeared to have a majority of perhaps 32-34 out of the 51 or so people on the committee. -Declan >In case anybody is counting votes, my own congressman (Brian Bilbray, R-CA) >sits on the House Commerce committee. I just got a call back from his >staff saying that Bilbray opposes the Oxley amendment and continues >to support the original SAFE bill, which he co-sponsored. > >Any other word on how today's vote is going? > >Phil

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17 Dec '03

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