December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Netly interviews Donna Rice-Hughes and Sen. Coats staffer
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[The day before the CDA decision came down, I interviewed David Crane from Sen. "CDA II Real Soon Now" Coats' office and Noah interviewed Donna Rice-Hughes. Recall Coats was the chief GOP sponsor of the original CDA. Here are excerpts. --Declan] *********** http://www.pathfinder.com/news/netdecency/rice.html Interview with Donna Rice-Hughes, Enough is Enough The Netly News June 26, 1997 [...] Q: WHY DO YOU SAY THERE IS SO MUCH MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE CDA IN THE INTERNET COMMUNITY? I think there's been a lot of misinformation about what this is all about and what the CDA would do if it is upheld. I think there have been some scare tactics, quite frankly, and that's why you have people concerned about speech. This is an area that the public hasn't had to understand the nuances of until now. You have a lot of people who have been using the Internet for years for the contructive purposes for which it was designed. Now it's becoming more commercial and you have pedophiles, pornographers and people who are just posting their private collections of pornography and polluting it, exploiting that technology. A few bad apples are spoiling it for everyone else. If it wasn't for that then we wouldn't be having this problem. Long before any of this it would have been great if the Internet community had said, "Hey, don't pollute this technology," and had imposed their own controls. But that didn't happen and it isn't happening. *********** http://www.pathfinder.com/news/netdecency/crane.html An Interview With David Crane, Legislative Assistant to CDA Cosponsor Dan Coats The Netly News June 26, 1997 [...] Q: WOULD YOU DO ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY? CHANGE THE WORDING OF THE CDA? I don't think so. One of the frustrations we experienced has been the tremendous amount of debate that has centered around the indecency standard -- and the portrayal of those who oppose it as a broadcast standard. The very federal statute we amended was a dial-a-porn statute. It was telephony, which is inherently an interactive method of communication. Despite representations to the contrary, there was a tremendous dialogue with representatives of the computer industry. We tried to strike the best balance we could. Q: YOU TOLD ME EARLIER THAT INTERNET USERS DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CDA REALLY IS ALL ABOUT. What Congress said was you're only held responsible for "knowing" violations. At that point you become responsible to solve that problem. You can't be held liable for unknowing violations. That's a distinction that's been lost in the politicking over this issue. And that's unfortunate. This is new technology and evolving technology. That's why Congress was careful not to codify a specific method of preventing access for children. What's effective today may not be effective tomorrow. We tried very much to have the CDA be flexible and be a living statute, one that would provide for advanced technologies and more restrictive technologies over time. Q:CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME EXAMPLES? A good example is PICS [a framework for Internet rating systems]. Look at the PC Week editorial. Q:THE ONE YOUR BOSS WAVED AROUND THE SENATE FLOOR? The industry has waved around PICS and said that's a solution. But what's the incentive -- for someone who's providing pornography on the Internet -- to subscribe to PICS? You're asking him to limit his potential marketplace in a voluntary way. That doesn't work. The need for the CDA is you want to say: Yes, apply technology, but you must restrict access to pornographic materials for children. If you don't do it, you'll be subject to prosecution. Q: WHAT WILL YOU DO IF THE SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN THE CDA? If the Supreme Court strikes down the CDA, we'll acknowledge that the current composition of the court is saying we don't have it right [to pass such a law] and we'll go back and operate on the precedent that was established and try again. The final verson of the CDA -- the compromise that was struck in the conference committee -- was passed overwhelmingly. There's precedent to this: the dial-a-porn law. It took several attempts before it was upheld by the Supreme Court. I think that everyone involved -- from the ACLU to a lot of the reporters on the Internet -- has misrepresented the CDA in many respects. Saying that it is a ban on indecency, that adults wouldn't be able to communicate with each other. That's patently wrong. Q: YOU SOUND LIKE YOU FEEL OUTGUNNED. The newspapers have a vested interest. Every major newspaper editorialized against the law during drafting and afterward. You're not going to be a darling of the media. The media likes to portray this as a free speech issue. This is part of the process. Q: SO NOW THE PRO-CDA FORCES ARE THE UNDERDOGS? One of the virtues of the Internet is the free flow of information. But only part of the information is being put out and that's unfortunate. This representation by opponents of the CDA that considerations of the unique nature of the Internet were not taken into account or that members and staff didn't understand the Internet or that somehow Congress didn't like the Internet or saw great danger beyond this issue -- all that is simply not true. There was consultation with the computer industry at every step of the way. We wanted to create a living law -- a flexible law -- that could grow as technologies evolved. ------------------------- Declan McCullagh Time Inc. The Netly News Network Washington Correspondent http://netlynews.com/

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newsletter
by FMart62512＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

is there a mailing list i can be put on? if so pleae do

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mailing list
by CrShNDy＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I want on the mailing list please

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Re: Bomb-making instructions....
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Paul Bradley wrote: > I personally know no chemistry at all, but what would be nice is if > someone who knows what they are doing wrote an "anarchists cookbook" type > set of files, but this time got them right so anyone attempting any of > the recipes wouldn`t be killed. People named "Lefty" need not apply...

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Re: Jim Bell 6
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Young wrote: > > On June 26 the court handling Jim's case extended > the time from June 30 to July 11 for the USA to file an > indictment. > No indication that Jim has been released, jailed since > his arrest on May 16. No reason given for repeated > waiver of right to a speedy trial. The right to a speedy trial is next to meaningless in a court system which is composed mostly of legal bum-buddies whose main concern is to make as much money as possible without making each other look like incompetent fools. The fact of the matter is, there is seldom any reason for a person to sit in jail without bond for extended periods other than the fact that his or her attorney is not capable of trying a case in a reasonable amount of time. Jim Bell is likely suffering from the delusion that his attorney is working in his client's best interest. If not, he would demand that the judge appoint an attorney to defend him who is both capable of and competent enough to represent him in a timely fashion. I mean, get real...Bell is imprisoned without bail with no charges having been filed against him. Has anybody seen a lawyer-ad on TV lately where the attorney is screaming, "CALL ME AND YOU'LL ROT IN JAIL WITHOUT EVER BEING CHARGED WITH A CRIME! CALL 1-800-DIP-SHIT!" The bottom line: The fact that a public defender is too busy, or doesn't have the resources, to represent his client in a timely fashion does not justify abrogation of a citizen's rights. The fact that Bell's lawyer is allowing his client to sit in prison without bail and without an indictment against him, without doing anything about it, suggests to me that he is selling out his client in order to enhance his future career as a RatFucker. TruthMonger > The docket's at: > > http://jya.com/jimbell-dock.htm

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Israel admits that its crypto policy was imposed by the US
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded-by: Ross Anderson <Ross.Anderson(a)cl.cam.ac.uk> From: the Jerusalem Post, 7th July 1997 (from www.jpost.co.il) ARCHIVE_DATE:Mon, Jul 07, 1997 ARCHIVE_NAME:Business ARCHIVE_HEAD:Chief scientist: Legal system gave in to US patent pressure ARCHIVE_AUTH:By JENNIFER FRIEDLIN JERUSALEM (July 7) - The Israeli legal system bowed to US pressure when it devised certain patent and encryption laws, which are now harming Israeli exports, Industry and Trade Ministry Chief Scientist Orna Berry said yesterday. Due to restrictive patent laws, which prohibit generic drug manufacturers from conducting research on original products before the patent protection expires, local companies are losing their competitive advantage to US companies that do not face such restrictions. Earlier this month, Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd., one of Israel's largest and most prestigious companies, said it is considering moving part of its research and development operations overseas in order to bypass the law. The encryption laws also hinder Israeli exports, because it insists that products with special coding must be sold directly to the end-user rather than off the shelf. While the law is meant to safeguard defense-related products, consumer products - such as Internet software - are also affected. One hundred and fifty companies employ encryption technology. "The Israeli legal system has not done a good job in considering the impact of these laws, and they have bent in front of pressure from the Americans," Berry said. Both Berry and Industry and Trade Minister Natan Sharansky have appealed to the Justice Ministry to revise the law. Berry said she hopes they will conclude the procedure by the end of the year. Teva has been trying to change the patent law since 1994, when it was passed.

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Article on Jim Bell/Assassination Politics
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In the July/August issue of Internet Underground magazine, I have a feature article on Jim Bell and Assassination Politics. I mention the cypherpunks list, of course. Nothing especially new, but folks might be interested in a summary and recap. -Declan

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Web security book finally available
by Avi Rubin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Now available (finally)... I am told that Amazon and Wiley are shipping them within 24 hours. The Web Security Sourcebook (John Wiley & Sons, Inc.) by Avi Rubin, Dan Geer, Marcus Ranum foreward by Steve Bellovin A new book on all aspects of web security. More information can be found at http://www.clark.net/pub/mjr/websec/ Now available at: https://www.wiley.com/compbooks/catalog/18148-X.htm http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=047118148X ********************************************************************* Aviel D. Rubin rubin(a)research.att.com Secure Systems Research Dept. Adjunct Professor at NYU AT&T Labs - Research 180 Park Avenue http://www.research.att.com/~rubin/ Florham Park, NJ 07932-0971 Voice: +1 973 360-8356 USA FAX: +1 973 360-8809 *********************************************************************

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[PGP-USERS] A start ... (hopefully) ...
by Darryl Rowe 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hopefully this is a harbinger of things to come (a July 7 press release at http://www.pgp.com) and maybe Phil can out-Gates Gates and assimilate Micro$oft (hey! I can dream, can't I?): The Allegro Group, Inc. has incorporated PGP technology in their Encryption Gateway for Groupwise. Now, the 8.5 million users of Novell GroupWise will be able to send and receive encrypted email and attachments securely and easily. The Encryption Gateway for GroupWise is available on the Windows NT platform and is available as a beta product today. <snip> The gateway is a 32-bit application and does not require any additional encryption. It supports keys up to 2048 bits and attachments (including uuEncode and MIME). The gateway works with any PGP or ViaCrypt product and/or key pair, and administrators may customize help and error messages. <snip> Now if they can keep this up and get their foot in the door with all the other email vendors. =============================================================== PGPMail preferred: key ID 0xE63E77E5. Finger darrylr(a)iglou.com http://keys.pgp.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=i -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM8Ketg/p7jvmPnflAQGg+AgAtGT7PyeVVjhLmEt4pGfHbWIUSVBjr8FA zhtMa58sG3WQQAZWhfJkS65b6IXTO6q45P0uwLSuXNsFWtOf3B5tCqkrtavrARkh OJA6UNJ5QrLMVSvKj70XUsogTP5G4n1ReVRgmAYxRNBGREwPo72asNj+71h+80vi NkQNPiuZompq6YghG0uDVinB5Fb0RyTOpzLzN0SKbRJuTaNLRbHRlWA25dyYKoKJ 0tqsSc28NJEPhYCXf9PbyE0fiWiiJTxQVCCT/ZxpRoIXHPR4tYRmadhDzCpwak92 ztz9TJPMFtviKaomOvz8YRI6wYZ6jtsuNh3m+08Q9pl9Fo85bzihcw== =H+9P -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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First Monday, July 1997
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 22:59:42 +0200 (METDST) From: lm(a)webhotel.uni-c.dk X-For: rah(a)shipwright.com To: rah(a)shipwright.com Subject: First Monday, July 1997 Mime-Version: 1.0 Dear First Monday Reader We proudly announce the July Issue of First Monday: http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue2_7/odlyzko/ Fixed fee versus unit pricing for information goods: competition, equilibria, and price wars by Peter Fishburn, Andrew M. Odlyzko, and Ryan C. Siders http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue2_7/drelichman/ Efficient Pricing in Data Transmission Networks: The Argentine experience by Mauricio Drelichman http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue2_7/goldhaber/ What's the Right Economics for Cyberspace? by Michael H. Goldhaber http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue2_7/berentsen/ Digital Money, Liquidity, and Monetary Policy by Aleksander Berentsen http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue2_7/almeida/ WebMonitor: a Tool for Measuring World-Wide Web Server Performance by Jussara M. Almeida, Virgilio Almeida, and David J. Yates http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue2_7/hibbitts/ E-Journals, Archives and Knowledge Networks: A Commentary on Archie Zariski's Defense of Electronic Law Journals by Bernard Hibbitts http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue2_7/bookrev/ Working the Web's Global Community: new books ---------------------------------------------------- http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue2_7/odlyzko/ Fixed fee versus unit pricing for information goods: competition, equilibria, and price wars by Peter Fishburn, Andrew M. Odlyzko, and Ryan C. Siders Information goods have negligible marginal costs, and this will create possibilities for novel distribution and pricing methods. The main concern of this paper is with pricing of goods that are likely to be consumed in large quantities by individuals. For example, will software continue to be sold at a fixed price for each unit, or will it be paid for on the basis of usage? There is substantial evidence both from observing marketplace evolution and from surveys that customers overwhelmingly prefer subscription pricing. It turns out that even if we ignore this factor, per-use pricing is not a clear winner, and therefore when the preference effect is taken into account, subscription pricing is likely to dominate. We model competitive pricing between two companies that supply essentially equivalent services (such as movies or word processing software). One company charges a fixed fee per unit, while the other charges on a per-use basis. Each is interested in maximizing its revenue. We consider instances of the models that have stable competitive equilibria between suppliers along with situations that are unstable and, in the absence of collusion, lead to ruinous price wars. ---------------------------- http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue2_7/drelichman/ Efficient Pricing in Data Transmission Networks: The Argentine experience by Mauricio Drelichman This paper develops a model to reflect the Argentine market for end-user Internet access and draws conclusions on certain aspects of economic efficiency. After the Introduction, the second section, entitled A Simple Model, provides a descriptive analysis of the market and its related industry, deriving a stylized technology and setting up a basic model. The third part of the paper, An Application to the Argentine Market, applies the model to Argentina, while the fourth section, Lessons from a Linear Demand Case, examines the results of the model under certain conditions. The model and the linear demand case are fully developed in the Appendix. ------------------------- http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue2_7/goldhaber/ What's the Right Economics for Cyberspace? by Michael H. Goldhaber Which economic theory best describes what goes on on the Internet? If you believe as I do that the explosive growth of the net and its relatives will likely continue until they become the dominant arenas for human effort and involvement, this is no idle question. Theories are guides to action: sticking to the wrong one can lead to ruin; adopting the right one opens the path to success. ------------------------- http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue2_7/berentsen/ Digital Money, Liquidity, and Monetary Policy by Aleksander Berentsen The term digital money refers to various proposed electronic payment mechanisms designed for use by consumers to make retail payments. Digital money products have the potential to replace central bank currency, thereby affecting the money supply. This paper studies the effect of replacing central bank currency on the narrowly defined stock of money under various assumptions regarding regulatory policies and monetary operations of central banks and the reaction of the banking system. ---------------------- http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue2_7/almeida/ WebMonitor: a Tool for Measuring World-Wide Web Server Performance by Jussara M. Almeida, Virgilio Almeida, and David J. Yates Server performance has become a crucial issue for improving the overall performance of the World-Wide Web. This paper describes WebMonitor, a tool for evaluating and understanding server performance, and presents new results for realistic workloads. WebMonitor measures activity and resource consumption, both within the kernel and in HTTP processes running in user space. WebMonitor is implemented using an efficient combination of sampling and event-driven techniques that exhibit low overhead. Our initial implementation is for the Apache World-Wide Web server running on the Linux operating system. We demonstrate the utility of WebMonitor by measuring and understanding the performance of a Pentium-based PC acting as a dedicated WWW server. Our workloads use file size distributions with a heavy tail. This captures the fact that Web servers must concurrently handle some requests for large audio and video files, and a large number of requests for small documents, containing text or images. Our results show that in a Web server saturated by client requests, up to 90% of the time spent handling HTTP requests is spent in the kernel. These results emphasize the important role of operating system implementation in determining Web server performance. It also suggests the need for new operating system implementations that are designed to perform well when running on Web servers. ------------------- http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue2_7/hibbitts/ E-Journals, Archives and Knowledge Networks: A Commentary on Archie Zariski's Defense of Electronic Law Journals by Bernard Hibbitts In his First Monday article "Never Ending, Still Beginning: A Defense of Electronic Law Journals from the Perspective of the E-Law Experience", Professor Archie Zariski asserted that, despite recent musings to the contrary, electronic legal periodicals have a bright future in the age of the Internet. This article challenges that contention, arguing that in law as in other disciplines, the reach, dynamism and interactivity of the Internet offer opportunities for the development of new scholarly publishing paradigms - in particular, archives and "knowledge networks" - which have the potential to enrich and envigorate legal learning more than even the most progressive electronic legal journals. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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