December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Market Failures, Monocultures, and Dead Kids (Oh My!)
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

camcc(a)abraxis.com (Alec) writes: > Tim, > > There would be more room if your sig weren't so long. :-> Guys with short dicks use long sigs. > As you know, every year there are a certain number of child deaths as a > result of reactions to state-mandated innoculations/vaccinations. Gone too? > > Perhaps the difference, or rationale, here is the possible spread of disease > to others, rather than trying to protect the individual from himself. Suppose X chooses to innoculate their kids and Y chooses not to innoculate their kids against, say, polio; and Y's kids get it. They're not going to give it to someone whose parents chose to innoculate them. (This is a kind of borderline example, not unlike circumcision. The individual affected by the choice is too young to understand what it's all about, but doesn't want to be stuck with a needle. Why are the parents more qualified to make decisions for him than the state?) --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: Market Failures, Monocultures, and Dead Kids (Oh My!)
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Timothy C. May" <tcmay(a)got.net> writes: > At 5:48 PM -0600 3/17/97, Igor Chudov @ home wrote: > >do you also oppose mandatory liability insurance? > > Yes. In New York State, every motorist is supposed to have $10K insurance as well as a licence. Of course, a lot of drivers in New York City have no licences or expired/suspended licences, and no insurance. If you're injured by an uninsured driver, or someone who fled, or someone with no assets and a $10K insurance and $500K claim, then your only hope to recover something is to carry "underinsurance insurance" with your own insurer. I understand that it's even messier in New Jersey. It would be much healthier if instead of trying to file a claim against the other party's insuerer (if it exists :-) you always filed a claim against your own insuerer and let them figure out who to sue. The system doesn't work. > (By the way, Igor, could you make a greater effort to snip out sections of > posts you are not directly commenting upon?) Learn to ignore what you're not interested in, Timmy. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: Market Failures, Monocultures, and Dead Kids (Oh My!)
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mac Norton <mnorton(a)cavern.uark.edu> writes: > > On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Timothy C. May wrote: > > > At 5:48 PM -0600 3/17/97, Igor Chudov @ home wrote: > > >do you also oppose mandatory liability insurance? > > > > Yes. > > And do you also oppose financial responsibility requirements > for obtaining the privilege of operating an automobile on > public roads? > MacN Dunno about Akransas (that's where Uark.edu is, ain't it). Your state is the home state of the muerderer Bill KKKlinton. You should commit suicide at once. But in the more civilized states, like New York or California, if you have an accident and your (good) car is totalled, then one of these three things will happen: * The other driver, who's at fault, has fled. You sue your own insurance company. * The other driver has minimal insurance and no assets. You sue your own insurance company (and the other guy). * You don't carry the appropriate insurance with your own insurance company and have no chance to recover much. Things would be much easier for everyone, including the drivers and the insueres, if the mandatory liability insurance was abolished and evryone delt with their own insurer - who would then try to recover damages from the other party if they had assets. The only people who benefits from the existing system are state bureaucrats. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: Dark Fiber Redux
by Dan.Oelke＠rdxsunhost.aud.alcatel.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > The implications for cryptography are rather cool. I don't *think* these > doped optical amplifiers interfere with so-called quantum cryptography (not > to be confused with quantum computing, of course). If I remember my SciAm > back issues, quantum crypto is cool, because if anyone touches the signal > from Alice to Bob they're detected immediately. Or, is it that the signal > drops? Can't remember which. Anyway, you need uninterrupted fiber to do QC, > and that's what you have with optical non-switched amplification, whether > you're disturbing the photons is another story. Anyone here know for sure? > I remember discussion about this, but I don't remember the answer. > I am not an expert in the *exact* physics of quantum crypto or of optical amplifiers, but I do have a least a college "modern physics" level of understanding of both. (and write software for a lot of fiber optics hardware) Quantum Crypto depends on the fact that you can't observe the photons without disturbing them, and that this disturbance would be detectable at the receiver. (i.e. Heisenberg's uncertainty principle at work) Optical Amplifiers work by receiving a relatively small number of photons, and passing them through a device where each photon creates in effect a cascade of photons to be generated thereby amplifying the signal. Now, this cascade mechanism in itself might be enough "measurement" to cause problems - but I don't know - and won't persue this avenue further. The problem is that while the waveform will be propagated, the orignal photons won't necessarily make it from one end to the other. Without these original photons making the entire journey I don't see how the quantum crypto would work. There are also pratical limitations on the number of optical amplifiers you can have in a system before having an electrical regenerator. Typical numbers are around 5 amplifiers, eaching going about 80km. This doesn't allow for around the world pure glass communications. ;-( Dan -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Oelke - droelke(a)aud.alcatel.com Alcatel Telecom, Richardson, TX There's a Wocket in my Pocket, And a Findow in my Window, And a Nook Gase in my Book Case

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RE: Market Failures, Monocultures, and Dead Kids (Oh My!)
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Declan McCullagh The short answer, perhaps, is that government should as a general rule adopt those policies that allow the greatest freedom over the long term. Private social pressure from families and communities may then develop into a more powerful force. ..................................................... There are limits to what can be accomplished through government. 'Government' is a coercive medium for effecting results; if everything could be accomplished by coercion, then it would rightly be expected that everything (everyone) should be always to be subject to coercion in order to have a smoothly running social machine. But if everything (all the benefits that people expect from social arrangements) could be accomplished by coercion, we wouldn't be the kind of life forms that we are. We would be the equivalent of "technology", subject to someone (else's) latest algorithmic program. Certainly under such an arrangement there would be no need for privacy. .. Blanc

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Dia_Press_Release.Donegan_Web_Project
by List-Owner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dia Center for the Arts press release 3/12/97 Cheryl Donegan: Studio Visit Studio Visit, a work for the world wide web by Cheryl Donegan, will be launched on March 20, 1997, at http://www.diacenter.org/donegan/. For Studio Visit, Donegan has put together a visually rich and playful interface constructed from imagery she has utilized in her studio practice. Film frames, TV screens, thumb prints, detergent bottles, and Newport cigarettes advertising campaign are some of the sources of the motifs she adopted and recreated for the site. Studio Visit also includes a series of images of Donegan at work in her studio over the course of a day. Opting for "low-tech" tricks, she has created an interactive experience from a combination of gif animations, frames, refreshes, mouse-overs and other devices inherent to the web. Donegans previous work has encompassed video, painting and performance, often putting an ironic and irreverent spin on conventions of art practice and art history. For example, several of her videos portray the artist executing simple, conceptual performances which result in paintings or drawings generated by various parts of her body. In Studio Visit, Donegan has transformed her experimentation with the language of painting into the medium of the web with wit and humor. Cheryl Donegan was born in New Haven, Connecticut in 1962, and studied at the Rhode Island School of Design in Providence and at Hunter College in New York. Her first one-person show was at the Elizabeth Koury Gallery in New York in 1993, with more recent solo exhibitions at Basilico Fine Arts in New York, Galerie Rizzo in Paris, and currently, at the Baumgartner Gallery in Washington, D.C. She has exhibited widely in group shows in the United States and Europe. One of her works is currently on view at the Museum of Modern Art in "Young and Restless," an exhibition of contemporary video art by young artists working in New York City. Dia Center for the Arts is a tax-exempt charitable organization. Established in 1974, the organization has become one of the largest in the United States dedicated to contemporary art and contemporary culture. In fulfilling this commitment, Dia sustains diverse programming in poetry, arts education, and critical discourse and debate via lectures and symposia. In addition, it maintains on a long-term basis works of art not easily accommodated by conventional museums. Dia serves as a conduit for realizing these projects, as intimated by the Greek word from which it takes its name. Dias long-term projects include Joseph Beuyss 7000 Oaks; Walter De Marias The Broken Kilometer, The Lightning Field, and The New York Earth Room; La Monte Young and Marian Zazeelas Dream House and The Dan Flavin Art Institute; Cy Twombly Gallery; and the Andy Warhol Museum. Current programs are supported in part by funds from the National Endowment for the Arts; the New York State Council on the Arts; and the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs; The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Federal Republic of Germany through the German Consulate General of New York; Axe-Houghton Foundation; The Bohen Foundation; The Brown Foundation; The Cowles Charitable Trust; The Getty Grant Program; The Graham Foundation for Advanced Studies in the Fine Arts; Lannan Foundation; Robert Lehman Foundation, Inc.; The Andrew W. Mellon Foundation; Arthur Ross Foundation; The Juliet Lea Hillman Simonds Foundation; Lila Acheson Wallace Theater Fund at Community Funds, Inc.; AT&T; Calvin Klein, Inc.; The Chase Manhattan Bank; Hachette Filipacchi Magazines; Philip Morris Companies Inc.; Tag Heuer; Wenner Media Inc.; and the individual members of the Dia Art Council. For information about this and other Dia programs, please contact Jennie Prebor at tel: (212) 989-5566, fax: (212) 989-4055, e-mail: jennie(a)diacenter.org Dia Center for the Arts 542 West 22nd Street, New York, NY http://www.diacenter.org To unsubscribe from this list, please send a message to webmaster(a)diacenter.org with "unsubscribe press list" in the subject.

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No Subject
by Voters Telecommunications Watch 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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ADV Weekly Transcripts
by advinfo＠dreamon.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--------------------------------------------------------------- American Dissident Voices is a world wide radio program which deals with topics of interest that concern people of European descent. We hope that these weekly articles will offer the reader an opposing viewpoint to the major news media. If you would like to unsubscribe to this service, please e-mail advinfo(a)dreamon.com. For more information visit the National Alliance web site at http://www.natall.com. For patriotic books, tapes and videos, visit National Vanguard Books Online Catalog at http://www.natvan.com/cgi-bin/nvbctlg.txt?url=www.natall.com -------------------------------------------- American Dissident Voices Online Radio http://www.natall.com/radio/radio.html It's Genocide by Robert Thompson Those who listen regularly to this program know that I am steadfastly opposed to what is called "The New World Order," that is, I am opposed to the establishment of world government under the United Nations and other international entities. The establishment of world government, which is taking place now and has been taking place since the War to Impose the New World Order ended in 1945, will mean the end of American freedom. We have reached the point where the President of the United States feels more obligated to obtain United Nations permission for US military action than he feels obligated to obtain authorization from Congress. Since we are so far down this dangerous road, I think it is wise to step back and look at the ostensible purposes of the United Nations, and how well its actions stand up to its professed principles. One of those professed principles is opposition to genocide, that is, the attempted destruction of a people. Let us look at the UN definition of genocide. The following quote is from the United Nations "Genocide Convention": "Acts Constituting Genocide "Article II "In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such: "(a) Killing members of the group; "(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; "(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; "(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; "(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group." Genocide, by the above definition, applies to national groups, including Americans; and ethnic groups, including people of European descent in the United States and South Africa; as much as any other groups. It is my contention that the people of European descent of this world are the targets of a constant, consistent, systematic, sustained campaign of genocide, with the intention of humiliating, subjugating, and eventually eliminating our people. This is being accomplished on two levels: by means of both overt and covert government coercion; and by means of both an open psychological warfare campaign and, using sophisticated psywar techniques, a subliminal psywar campaign. Think about racial integration. The laws which formerly protected the freedom of association of different racial groups, who in all of recorded history have shown a strong tendency to segregate themselves and evinced a strong desire to live among their own kind and by their own values, were all reversed by illegal decrees of a leftist Supreme Court, until today freedom of association is virtually illegal, except, so far, in the bedroom. All human societies, and indeed all forms of higher life on this planet, require an exclusive territory for their survival. Nations and species both defend their territories, sometimes unto death, because that truth is graven upon their hearts at a very deep, instinctual level. It is this inner knowledge of the need for an exclusive territory that makes us naturally group together along ethnic lines and makes our young men willing to fight and die to keep our territory -- our country -- for ourselves. We cannot survive unless we have a territory exclusively our own. Integration takes that away from us. According to section C of the Genocide Convention, genocide is "Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part." One look at the interracial murder and interracial rape statistics put out by the FBI is enough for any reasonable person to see that Americans of European descent have been under a constant physical assault, due in no small part to the promotion of "integration." And "integration" has destroyed our criminal justice system; the guilty often go unpunished or the innocent are persecuted, not on the basis of the evidence, but based on the racial composition of the jury, which is acknowledged even by the news media to be one of the most important factors in the outcome of a trial. One particularly horrible consequence of "integration" is the forced taking of our innocent little children, some of them only five years old, and bussing them into the Third World war zones that so many of our cities have become; or bussing the warring gangs into our neighborhoods -- all in the name of "integration." According to section E of the Genocide Convention, genocide is defined as "Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group." Even though decent and thoughtful members of many races have been against it from the beginning, our masters are now accelerating a push to promote interracial adoption as a government policy, opposition to which will be punishable by law. This also fits the definition of genocide under section E. Section B of the Genocide Convention defines genocide as "Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group." We have discussed bodily harm -- what about mental harm? To be healthy, every child and every adult must have a positive sense of identity. In the United States, our schools used to teach our children about the positive contributions of our race, which founded America and Western Civilization itself. We taught our children to respect the cultures of other peoples, yes, but also to revere and honor our people's achievements, from the Iliad to Shakespeare, from Stonehenge to the transistor to the walk on the moon. And they were acknowledged as OUR achievements! But under the current regime of Political Correctness it is considered evil to acknowledge the fact that ours is a European civilization. Our achievements may not be mentioned in class or textbook unless in the same breath an African, an Oriental, or a lesbian Communist is given equal billing, and historical accuracy be damned! The desire of people to live among their own kind is called "racism," and guilt for this imagined sin is inculcated among our young people in almost every book, television program, motion picture or even computer game that is made available to them. They are told that their ancestors, who built America and the West, were wrong and that only the Communist-inspired "civil rights" revolution of the last few decades has finally set things right. They are spoon-fed a moral outlook on the world in which anything which tends to the survival and advancement of White Americans is deemed evil, and everything which tends to our extinction is deemed good, by definition. This alien morality, which does no race any good except our self-appointed masters, has grievously injured two entire generations of our people. It is sick -- it is evil -- and it is undoubtedly genocide -- "causing serious mental harm to the members of the group." Section D of the Genocide Convention defines genocide as "imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group." Ask yourself this question: What has been the demographic result of all the so-called "feminist" agitation of the last few decades? Has it resulted in a significant reduction in the numbers of the Third Worlders now crowding our cities? Are illegal Mexican immigrant women or inner city welfare mothers now taking up careers and foregoing children until they're nearly forty? Or is it traditional European-American women who have decided that there are things more important than the creation and raising of the next generation of our people? We as a people are not even replacing ourselves. We are starting our families later if at all, and few women have the three children necessary to maintain our numbers. The promotion of abortion on demand has also made little dent in the mushrooming population of non-Americans within our borders, but it has convinced many millions of our own people that slaying their children in the womb, for no better reason than personal convenience, is a good and laudable idea. A whole generation has thus been killed and will never see the light of day -- yet another reason why the portion of the population of European descent is in precipitous decline. Other anti-birth policies include the media and government campaigns to promote and legitimize homosexuality. Is there an identifiable power structure within America which is "imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group"? You bet there is! We have not yet addressed section A of the convention, "killing members of the group," but when the New World Order boys have succeeded in disarming us we shall see what their intentions really are in that regard. Also ongoing is a slow war against us now being waged in our inner cities; and there is also the fact, exposed many times on this program, that most of the wars of this century have been engineered for the benefit of the New World Order elitists -- and it is our fathers, brothers, and sons who do the dying. Is multi-racialism genocide? Yes it is. Is multi-culturalism genocide? Yes it is. Is teaching minorities self esteem while teaching Whites "sensitivity" genocide? Yes it is. Is diversity indoctrination genocide? Yes it is. Is toleration of illegal immigration genocide? Yes it is. Is any non-White immigration, except perhaps for diplomatic and consular representatives, genocide? Yes it is. Do anti-discrimination laws constitute genocide? Yes they do. Do "hate crime" laws constitute genocide? Yes they do. Does support of convenience abortion constitute genocide? Yes it does. Does promotion of homosexuality constitute genocide? Yes it does. Is suppression of information on racial differences genocide? Yes it is. Is inhibiting research on racial differences genocide? Yes it is. Is "affirmative action" genocide? Yes it is. Is the subliminal or overt promotion of interracial sex on TV genocide? Yes it is. Does failure to provide equal media time to Whites to further their cause, constitute genocide? Yes it does. Does the undermining of loyalty of White Americans to their own people constitute genocide? Yes it does. Does undermining the sovereignty of our nation and the promotion of world government constitute genocide? Yes it does. It is not necessary to use gas chambers to commit genocide. Some of our own people, in order to gain favor with a treacherous and disloyal elite, find it to their own advantage to sacrifice the integrity of our country and our people, for money or power. Some of our people would rather surrender and grovel than fight. As long as they are able to go along to get along, they pretend to ignore the decay and collapse of our civilization brought about as a direct result of the genocidal program being imposed upon us. I believe the day is coming when they must answer for their treason. If that day does come, and I believe it will, they will find their answers falling on deaf ears. "Treason, how be it punished...?" Those who promote the New World Order today are the spiritual and in some cases the physical cousins of those who founded Communism. Though the overtly Communist attempt at world government foundered on its economic failures, we make a big mistake if we think that the danger is passed. Those who created Communism in the first place as an instrument for world control are very much alive, and their evil dream of world government is now being achieved. They have always been friendly toward Communism, though they favor its objectives secretly. They use code words like "restoring democracy" while they impose Communist tyrannies on South Africa and Haiti. They hate all races, but they especially hate our race -- for our nations, once awakened, have the potential for defeating their evil schemes. Let us see whether or not the current plan for "integration" matches Communist objectives. England's leading Communist writer in the early part of the twentieth century had long range plans for the race problem. He had this to say in his book, A Racial Program for the 20th Century, as printed in the Congressional Record for 1957, page 8559: "In America, we will aim for a subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavour to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise to prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negroes will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause." Well, there it is. Straight from the horse's mouth. I want you to pay particular attention to the statement, and I emphasize: "...we will endeavour to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negroes." Despite the fall of the Soviet Union, the Soviet psychological warfare people, with the help of their agents of influence in the West, have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. Now, I personally believe it is time to undo, by every legal means possible, the greatest Soviet psychological warfare triumph. In fact it is the greatest triumph for any psychological warfare campaign ever waged -- racial "integration" in the United States. Of course the Communists' powerful allies helped, and these "helpers" are very much with us today in America. In 1928 Communist writer Joseph Pogany was sent to the United States by Moscow with the mission of implementing the Soviet racial agenda in America. Writing in the Communist newspaper, The Daily Worker, under the name of Joseph Schwartz, this Communist laid out his party's program for the racial destruction of this country. The program was: "1. Abolition of the whole system of race discrimination and insure full racial equality; "2. Insure the Negroes the right to vote; "3. Abolish all Jim Crow laws and forbid discrimination against Negroes in selling or renting houses; "4. Abolish all laws forbidding intermarriage of persons of different races; "5. Assure full integration of public schools and universities; " 6. The equal admittance of Negroes to railway stations, waiting rooms, hotels, restaurants and theaters; "7. Full integration of the Army and Navy; "8. Allow Negroes to join all labor unions; "9. Equal employment opportunities for Negroes." Now, do these measures have a familiar ring to them? Of course they do. This is what became the American "civil rights" movement. This was the blueprint. People tell us that "integration" will make us a better and stronger country. Do you believe that the Soviets would have done anything to make our country stronger or better? Do you expect me to believe that? To anyone who was gullible enough to accept all or any part of this agenda I say this: Lenin had an expression for you. He would refer to those in the West who consciously or unconsciously served Soviet interests as his "useful idiots." At this point we can expect to hear the whines, the bleats, and the snivels: "I don't care if we were led by the nose on the race issue by the Communists, it was right!" If you think that our fractured and disintegrating society is better even for the Blacks than the strong, confident, prosperous and peaceful America before the "civil rights" revolution then you are truly living in a dream world. Forced "integration" of widely differing peoples never works -- it only destroys. History abounds with examples. Remember, most of the Third World people who have been encouraged and allowed to come here are not America's real enemies. They are only taking advantage of a situation created by America's enemies. Their culture and survival, too, are in peril from the New World Order multicultural agenda. America's enemies are those who created and are pushing that agenda. To oppose the genocidal program of the New World Order, we must say some things that our masters have decided we are not supposed to say. They want to homogenize us all and destroy all races and nations to fulfil their dream of world conquest. To destroy national and racial identity and feelings is their number one goal -- because such feelings are the major stumbling block in the path of "one world." Instead of armies, in America our enemies have conquered us by infiltration of our government and our media -- they have conquered our minds -- but they have not conquered all of us. Some of us know that we must oppose the genocide of our people. We know in our hearts that we are not "haters," and that our struggle for freedom and independence is not based on a hatred of others or other cultures, for which we of course should show due respect, but based instead upon a love for our children, and their children, and the uncounted generations to come, and on a determination that the light represented by our Western civilization shall never be extinguished. ~ For more information or to find out how you can join the leading patriotic organization in the world today, visit the National Alliance web site and read "What is the National Alliance" at http://www.natvan.com/WHAT/WHATDIR.HTML.

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US Spies Vacuum Germany
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This week's Spiegel has a three-page follow-up article on the CIA spy: Der Spiegel No. 12 / 1997, pp. 34-36. Espionage / "Dinner for Two" For almost three years, a CIA agent has pumped a Head of Unit in Bonn's Economy Ministry. The US agencies' wild actions no longer are taboo. The official Klaus Dieter von Horn, 60, ex officio is on the guard of spies - the Superior Counsellor in the Economy Ministry is responsible for the Arabian area. As the head of unit VB7 - that concentrates on Iran - knows, spies from the Near East, but also from other areas, take a keen interest in the files on his desk. Nevertheless, at first the official did not pay much attention to Geoffry Plant's efforts. After all, he was in diplomatic duty of the big brother USA. Horn and Plant got to know each other late in 1994, and the American invited the German to a dinner for two every three or four weeks. The US embassy's IInd Secretary liked to chat about his employer and kept asking even more questions about Horn's ministry. He had Horn explain the political background of the Mykonos lawsuit, and was interested in the Hermes credits to Iran. When Bonn in August 1995 asked Iran to send two employees of their office in Bonn on vacation without return tickets because they had been unveiled as spies, Plant wanted to know all details. Another time, he politely asked for a list of those firms that deliver all sorts of goods, especially high tech, to the Mullahs' state. The Ministerial Counsellor remained courteous, but refused: He was not allowed to hand over those papers, Plant surely knew that? The American did understand, but he would not give up. Last year in May, he again invited Horn to dinner. He was leaving the embassy, he said, and on farewell still handed over a Montblanc pen of almost 300 DM worth. Also, he introduced his successor: Peyton K Humphries, a diplomat working on Iran. Plant asked him not to forget that name. That was for granted. Other authorities were already awaiting the US embassy's new second secretary with large interest: The German intelligence agencies wanted to check if the Americans were willing to continue the agents game in diplomatic undercover. Because already in Summer 1995, after the first talks with Plant, wary Horn had contacted the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND) and the Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz (BfV). Obviously, he reported, American spies were assigned to him. He correctly informed the BfV about the various meetings and also handed over presents such as pens and champagne. Then, as Humphries queried him about the ongoing construction of the nuclear power plant of Busher after his return from a trip to Teheran, Horn described the US interest in full detail. What was happening there, was a textbook case to the BfV agent hunters: Spies from a foreign power wanted to recruit a German top official. It is the spy school's ABC to first give the source test orders such as obtaining material from an open source - as in Horn's case. Also typical: The German was supposed not to talk to anyone about the encounters, including US embassy staff. Humphries: "There are two competing camps." The CIA and the embassy's economy department don't get on well with each other. After the German counterespionage experts had dropped all plans to crack the US embassy that lies at the Rhine like a fortress at Deichmanns Aue 29, or to tap Humphries' telephone, in this February BfV head Peter Frisch talked to the head of the CIA in Bonn, Floyd L Paseman. Humphries, Frisch demanded, was to leave the country, the Chancellor's Office and the Foreign Office were annoyed. Paseman denied espionage, but assured that the CIA agent would leave until May 30. He insistently asked to handle the incident most discreetly. It failed. Since Der Spiegel reported first details about the snooping last week, the relations between the goverment and Washington are not free from irritations. In the US, comparisons were made with France kicking out four CIA agents in 1995. "Why do the United States spy out their friends?" the Wall Street Journal asked. "Shame", said the Chicago Tribune's editorial. Washington still treated Germany as an agents center like "in the age of Cold War". The timid in Bonn now are afraid of trouble with the big brother. But there also is relief. Kicking the CIA man out gives the chance to no longer treat espionage among friends as a taboo. Six and a half years after re-unification and the end of the allied forces' privileges in Germany, the Germans in the conspirative area still are not the masters of their own house. Still, some Western agencies - the Americans at the head - act like in their own backyard. Hortensie I, the BND's synonym for the CIA, and Hortensie III, as the most sinister American intelligence agency, the National Security Agency (NSA) is referred to, resemble the flower of the same name: a shrublike plant with strong roots. The "friendly agencies" are increasingly active in the capital, Berlin's Secretary of State of the Interior Kuno Böse (CDU) reported in February. In mid-February, the heads of the Offices for the Protection of the Constitution met in Bad Neuenahr to "re-structure counter-intelligence". "Focussing on the East", they noted as item 4, "would not correspond to political reality any more". Looking to the West shows surprising activity: More than 1,000 wiretap technicians and 100 professional US agents bustle about in Germany, security experts estimate. 20 intelligence officers are suspected in the American embassy at the Rhine alone. The friendly power's spies are in consulates, allied supreme command, and barracks. They try to recruit agents in Germany, they tap sources without consultation, and whoever uses a telephone between the Alps and the Baltic Sea must be aware that the NSA be switched in - attention, the friend is listening. Before 1990, the American eavesdroppers were ubiquitious. They maintained a listening post on the mountain Teufelsberg in Berlin, to listen to East Berlin, and probably the West as well. In Frankfort am Main, close to the Zeil, there was another impressive listening post. In the Lech plain near Gablingen, the Americans constructed a powerful circular antenna grid - some 300 meters of diameter and 100 meters of heigth. Upside, they were listening on short wave to the Eastern generals' orders. What they were doing in the underground, has remained their secret. The Teufelsberg has been left, as the Americans moved further to the East. The Frankfort subsidiary has also been closed, and Gablingen will be given up next year. But the Americans' pride, their "giant ear" in Germany, will remain, and it makes the ordinary wiretap look rather ordinary. The site is located in Bad Aibling, Upper Bavaria. In an idyllic landscape, the empire of Hortesie III extends immensely. Gigantic antenna facilities that in their covers rise above the plain like huge gulf balls are eavesdropping Russian military. Russian sattelites are tapped, the telephone traffic directed to the formerly Soviet army is recorded. Right next to it, in the German Mangfall barrack, resides the BND's so-called long distance radio traffic site. It (object "Orion") may use the American antennae, nearly 100 eavesdroppers are analyzing the cyrillic babel of speech. But the peace is deceptive. The intelligence empire NSA (estimated budget: 3.5 billion dollar, about 100,000 employees) maintains a large complex in Bad Aibling that is terra incognita to the German agencies. By far, it is not just about the legitimate American safety interests. In the midst of Germany, there is a control center for the many American espionage sattelites that, according to a security expert in Bonn, "long since do not only spy out the East". The celestial bodies of American origin circulating in close orbit suck in electronic signals above Germany like a huge vacuum cleaner. With encrypted signals, Bad Aibling queries the memory of the satellites and searches the collected phone conversations, faxes and computer traffic for interesting stuff. Until 1995 the site officially used the name of the NSA. To keep up appearances, then a US Air Force lieutenant colonel took over command, the military flag is demonstratively fluttering in the wind. But still more than 1,000 eavesdroppers are working in the huge complex, according to BND estimates. Estimated 150 of them are directly from the NSA that does the controlling and sets the tasks. In spite of many inquiries, Hortensie III has strictly denied to exchange all information from "non-military intelligence". The BND, they argue, can offer nothing of comparable value. But it probably is more about not telling the Germans what they really do. If American and German security experts are right, European companies are systematically spied out from Bad Aibling. Years ago, US president Bill Clinton decreed American agencies to larger commitment in economic espionage. When the European airplane giant Airbus Industries, of which Germany holds 37.9%, was competing for a large Saudi Arabian contract with two US groups, the NSA intervened. It intercepted all faxes and phone conversations between Airbus and the Saudis. So, the Americans knew their opponent and their offers were unbeatable - after all the orders valued at six billion dollars. While the British and French to a certain extend respect Germany's souvereignty, the Americans, who had brought up the BND, behave like a victor power. They insist on supplementary agreements on intelligence cooperation with "the allied forces". Thus, the Germans must respect "necessities of military safety" of Nato contingents here. There is much room for secretive manners in German territory. In its "Westport" office in the East of Munich, the CIA until now maintains a so-called inquiry office. The Americans ask asylum-seeking refugees and emigrants from whom they expect informaition to come to Munich from all Germany. Pro forma, the BND is asked for endorsement, but the talks usually take place without German participation, and the BND does not learn about possible CIA recruitments. The Americans are questioning deserted Russian soldiers, war refugees from former Yugoslavia, and asylum-seekers from the Near East. The VIPs of them are offered asylum in the USA. Even applicants from overseas are brought to the experts in Munich for interrogation. For a long time, German politics have ignored the activities of the rogue agency. In autumn 1994, the Chancellor's Office installed a working group, strictly confidential of course, to get the American and other friendly agencies under control. Three ministries and three intelligence agencies were sitting at the table, headed by Rudolf Dolzer, professor of international law, at that time Head of Unit in the Chancellor's Office. "What they are doing here is not possible", Dolzer got exited. "They must comply with law and oder." The group boldly planned to prohibit the Americans from interrogating asylum-seekers without German participation, in Bad Aibling BND specialists should watch the NSA, recruiting sources should be prohibited. After all - they concluded - espionage activities also from friendly states are not politically protected. In 1995, their will of protection suddenly vanished. Distances between meetings grew longer, finally the Chancellor's Office didn't send out invitations any more. Above all, the BfV that already had created lists with names of suspicious agents was disappointed. "Someone on the very top must have pulled the plug", someone from an intelligence agency says. It is dubious if the case of CIA agent Humphries will cause with the Americans to change their policy. At least, friendship with America means a big deal to Helmut Kohl who does not consider the intelligence business especially important. The Chancellor is not even scared by the sinister NSA. He does have telephones that are guaranteed to be wiretap-proof. Even when he is on vacation at the Wolfgangsee [in Austria], the BND always installs a device which not even the NSA can crack. But the secure devices have one important drawback: First the partner has to stop speaking before you can speak yourself. That is why the Chancellor to the displeasure of the security people prefers the old telephone - a friend trusts a friend. [End] Thanks to anonymous. For earlier reports on US spying in Germany: http://jya.com/despon.txt http://jya.com/ciaami.txt http://jya.com/really.txt

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[Humor] Dogs and Computers
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Top 20 Reasons Dogs Don't Use Computers [20] Can't stick their heads out of Windows '95. [19] Fetch command not available on all platforms. [18] Hard to read the monitor with your head cocked to one side. [17] Too difficult to "mark" every website they visit. [16] Can't help attacking the screen when they hear "You've Got Mail." [15] Fire hydrant icon simply frustrating. [14] Involuntary tail wagging is dead giveaway they're browsing www.pethouse.com instead of working. [13] Keep bruising noses trying to catch that MPEG frisbee. [12] Not at all fooled by Chuckwagon Screen Saver. [11] Still trying to come up with an "emoticon" that signifies tail-wagging. [10] Oh, but they WILL... with the introduction of the Microsoft Opposable Thumb. [09] Three words: Carpal Paw Syndrome [08] 'Cause dogs ain't GEEKS! Now, cats, on the other hand... [07] Barking in next cube keeps activating YOUR voice recognition software. [06] SmellU-SmellMe still in beta test. [05] SIT and STAY were hard enough, GREP and AWK are out of the question! [04] Saliva-coated mouse gets mighty difficult to manuever. [03] Annoyed by lack of newsgroup, alt.pictures.master's.leg. [02] Butt-sniffing more direct and less deceiving than online chat rooms. and the Number 1 Reason Dogs Don't Use Computers... [01] TrO{gO DsA[M,bN HyAqR4tDc TgrOo TgYPmE WeIjTyH P;AzWqS,. | ,@ __|-. ,_~o/ \/ | Through the router, off the switch, |/ | down the cable, nothing but net. / > | ' ` | The @Home slam dunk | __________________|

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