December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Interesting question: how to safely keep passwords online
by Ed Falk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's a question that's been on my mind lately: Often, you like to keep external passwords stored on your personal computer. As a quick example, Eudora will remember your POP password for you so you don't have to enter it every time. Obviously, Eudora keeps this on disk somewhere. The question is: is there any (relatively) safe way to do this? Obviously, Eudora encrypt the saved password with some secret key, but this key could probably be found by examining the code. A slight improvement would be for Eudora to generate an encryption key on the fly based on some external system state, but this is also susceptible to reverse-engineering. -ed falk

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Re: Constitution and a Right to Privacy
by Vin McLellan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Marshall Clow wrote: >Let's not start this.... <snip> >If we are going to discuss privacy, that's fine. >It we are going to discuss abortion, there are better fora. Right, Marshall. I was attempting to respond directly to Tim's comment, but I too have no desire to let the end of C'punks be yet another sinkhole Abortion Debate. Foil at guard. I'll subside and let any riptide response roll over me;-). (Jeeze! Anyone else feel like these are the Final Days, like when a company goes bankrupt, or graduation day or the like?? I hope one of these C'punkish alternatives will provide an opportunity for some of the same thoughtful and stimulating engagements that toad.com hosted.) Respect to all, pro-choice and pro-life, _Vin

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Why Digital Video Disks are late to market
by Martin Minow 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://techweb.cmp.com/eet/news/97/942news/encryp.html To summarize, the Digital Video Disk standard contains an encryption standard for copyright and anti-piracy protection. however, "some U.S. PC and silicon vendors have just about abandoned hope of keeping to their revised launch schedules for DVD-enabled systems." ... as far as anybody knows, "none of the U.S. PC vendors today has a license to use the DVD-decryption algorithm" in software. "We all know the situation; we don't have a license," said Michael Moradzadeh, program manager of Intel's copy-protection task force. A solution may be in the offing within days. Some sources said late last week that Matsushita [who owns license rights] and key U.S. computer companies may resolve the software-licensing issues by the end of this week. The PC industry seeks amendments to the licensing-agreement language that would result in equivalent treatment of software- and hardware-based CSS decryption. ... there apparently has been some speculation among the U.S. PC community that Matsushita may be stonewalling on the software-licensing issue so that it can establish its hardware-based decryption solution in the marketplace. --- Nothing in the article suggests that "national interests" are involved. Martin Minow minow(a)apple.com

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ISP access fee rebuttal
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If you are interested in the on-going debate over ISP access charges, I sugest you look at a newly published report perpared for the Internet Access Coalition. It stomps on the RBOC assertions that dial-in access to the Net is having a generally negative impact on their telephone networks from both performance and financial asapects. http://www2.itic.org/itic/eti_toc.html --Steve

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Re: Constitution and a Right to Privacy
by Timothy C. May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:51 PM -0500 2/18/97, Vin McLellan wrote: > Marshall Clow wrote: > >>Let's not start this.... <snip> > >>If we are going to discuss privacy, that's fine. >>It we are going to discuss abortion, there are better fora. > > Right, Marshall. I was attempting to respond directly to Tim's >comment, but I too have no desire to let the end of C'punks be yet another >sinkhole Abortion Debate. Foil at guard. I'll subside and let any riptide >response roll over me;-). Then why did you begin an abortion debate? I made no claims one way or another about abortion, but cited the issue as the main place the "right to privacy" issue has come to the fore. And I said I found the argument uncompelling. I did not say I was against abortion, for abortion, or, for that matter, for or against infanticide. > (Jeeze! Anyone else feel like these are the Final Days, like when a >company goes bankrupt, or graduation day or the like?? I hope one of these >C'punkish alternatives will provide an opportunity for some of the same >thoughtful and stimulating engagements that toad.com hosted.) Unsurprisingly, I've gotten some of the messages from folks I often get when people dislike some post I've made. They go like this: "Tim, I really like some of your posts. But, Jeez, give it a rest on foobar! Can't you go back to writing about lahdidah?" In other words, the reader wishes I would write only about what he or she is interested in. Well, pay me my consulting rate and I'll do just that. I've written many thousands of articles over the past 4.5 years...some of them very long articles, some very short, most of medium length. (I despise one-line repartee, and I'm glad our list has never fallen into this mode as so many other lists have.) I write about what I find interesting. You all know where the Delete key is. (Of course, a fairly large fraction of my recent posts have been deleted for you by Sandy, who sends many of my posts to neither the Main list nor the Flames list. Bet a lot of you didn't know this, did you?) --Tim May > Respect to all, pro-choice and pro-life, > > _Vin Just say "No" to "Big Brother Inside" We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Stop sending me your shit
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:04 PM 2/18/97 -0500, Alec wrote: >At 08:38 PM 2/18/97 +0200, you wrote: >: >:Get me off your list or else ..... . Get me out your fuckin list assholes. > >Certainly you learned on your mother's knee that you can get more of what >you want from other people with kindness rather than anger and rudeness. >What did she say about using foul words? Lets think about these things. > >You may be in for a long stay here. These folks can be downright nasty >sometimes. > ... Personally, I just responded to one persons statement, (the one with the modicum of courtesy) and decided to let this looser languish, (because of his foul additude). I think that by this, maybe, he'll learn not to bite the hand of the persons who he is asking for help from. It also gives me a none too innocent feeling of graditude to know that this person will suffer a little longer, all because I decided that I didn't like him.

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[noise] Re: JSC Security Report
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:29 PM 2/18/97 -0500, John Young wrote: >"Redefining Security," a 1994 report to the DoD and the CIA by >The Joint Security Commission, offers bountiful information >on US security strategies, policies, agencies, methodologies, >and techniques, you name it, with designs for the future. > > http://jya.com/jcs.htm (454K) > >If you ever wanted to talk like the spooks, parrot this dictionary >of NatSec ebonics. Great, I'll look into it. I've been meaning to get some info on the like. You just can't convince someone that you are one of them unless you talk like them. And I would like to get all relevant information to any investigations into my activities faxed to the nearest Kinko's.

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Re: MagicMoney
by Mark Grant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, hjk wrote: > I finally got a copy of MagicMoney (from ftp://utopia.hacktic.nl). > It is just the code (compiling without error), but there is no README or > documentation at all.Can someone give me a hint,what to do with this > package? Is there a documentation somesite? All the documentation that came with my copy is at http://www.unicorn.com/pgp/mm-readme.html That was enough for me to set it up and play with it a couple of years ago. Mark "Not Pr0duct Cypher" Grant |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| |Mark Grant M.A., U.L.C. EMAIL: mark(a)unicorn.com | |WWW: http://www.unicorn.com/ MAILBOT: bot(a)unicorn.com | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|

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Re: Removal from newsgroup listing
by Z.B. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Terry L. Davis wrote: > I'm not certain how I got on the cypherpunks newlist, but it's way over > my head. Please removed terryld(a)earthlink.com from cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Thanks > Another thing the new list needs...verification of subscribe requests. Zach Babayco zachb(a)netcom.com <-------finger for PGP public key If you need to know how to set up a mail filter or defend against emailbombs, send me a message with the words "get helpfile" (without the " marks) in the SUBJECT: header, *NOT THE BODY OF THE MESSAGE!* I have several useful FAQs and documents available.

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Re: Anyone have the complete info on CP list alternatives?
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:58 PM 2/17/97 -0600, Igor Chudov wrote: ... >It is a very good objections. I would like readers to speak up and say >their word for or against forwarding the list messages to >alt.cypherpunks. If a significant number of people objects (2-3 is >enough) I will disable this feature. As to my two cents, I like the idea, but would ask that the usenet feed have the scrambled address described by Cynthia H. Brown. I don't really care to have a box full of "YOU may HAVE JUST WON ONE MILLION DOLLARS!", if the system described by Mrs. Brown works, I would prefer this.

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