December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Moderation experiment almost over; "put up or shut up" (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:30:54 -0800 > From: Alan Olsen <alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com> > >offered nothing in the past but criticism, it's now time to get a > >bit more real. What will it be, your money, time, equipment? > > What kind of memory requirements/machine load does the list eat up? I have a > machine that may fit this purpose... (Need to know if I need to upgrade the > box though.) A minimum standard for a useable remailer (YMMV): 486DX(blah) 16M 1G IDE Mitsumi CD Rom (very widely supported) VGA 1M NE2000 x 2 (Internet & Intranet) High-speed serial ports x 3 (Mouse, Modems x 2) [optional] ISDN Bridge (incl. NT-1, no POTS) ISDN Line (contact business office) Internet Provider (commercial service, nameservice, news, etc.) 10BaseT Bridge [optional, depends on Bridge] Registration of domain name [optional, suggested] Linux (WinNT if clueless) For a full-time commercial feed in Austin, Tx. your talking about: Startup: $600 Machine $100 VGA Monitor $100 Computer accessories $400 28.8 Modems ($200 x2) $150 ISDN install $1k ISDN Bridge $500 ISP setup & init (this is commercial, not hobby) $100 Initial name registry $300 UPS $3,250 Monthlies: $50 Phones ($25 x2) $25 Utilities $75 ISDN $400 ISP connection $550 Note: * This machine can't be your personal workstation. It will be entirely too busy. * Learn shell, c, Pearl to start. * O'Reilly makes very useful books. * Such a machine will handle from between 100 to 500 accounts depending on how you set up your system. * If you have the money, put it in the bandwidth first. * I would very strongly suggest against using your employers resources for such activities. * You will want at least one dedicated dial-in, no matter what. This is a good place for distinctive ring and a line splitter. Consider this when buying the modem, it will raise the price of the modem. Also consider the personal 800 numbers that are available. * Consider strongly the use of an encrypted file system. While they make automated re-boots impossible their security can be quite appealing. (This is an issue that somebody who is already designing encrypted file systems should look into, how to allow automated reboots w/o manual entry of the key(s).) * Anonymous remailer extensions would not be a major resource hog. * If you are going to consider allowing general access by your users via dial-in use 10 - 15 users per line per day, assuming no enforced quota. Hope this helps anyone who might be interested in starting up such a beast. Jim Choate CyberTects ravage(a)ssz.com When I was a kid, I lived in Pasadena, Tx. just down the street from the Washburn Tunnel. There was a big sign going from Pasadena to the Houston side that said "The grass is greener in Pasadena". This sentiment is the true liberator of the human spirit. Keeping up with the Joneses is burned into our genes.

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Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, What is the current future of the Cypherpunks webpage? Will it continue to be kept up or is it going down as well? Jim Choate CyberTects ravage(a)ssz.com

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Re: Recommendation: Creation of "alt.cypherpunks"
by Anil Das 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Feb 11, 2:42pm, Alan Bostick wrote: > new alt.* newsgroups are better > received if they don't have top-level names. Using existing top-level > hierarchies is better (e.g. alt.security.cypherpunks or > alt.privacy.cypherpunks). I agree that alt.privacy.cypherpunks is the best bet, if alt.group is the route we go. -- Anil Das

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Re: Recommendation: Creation of "alt.cypherpunks"
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:15 AM 2/11/97 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote: >- propagation is often spotty, and some sites have no access at all to the >"alt.*" hierarchy. (Many corporate sites block the alt heirarchy. Many >academic sites block just the alt.binaries.pictures heirarchy. Etc. A news >to mailing list gateway is possible for these readers.) Everybody with a web browser has access to alt newsgroups via http://www.dejanews.com/ -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred "I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence." Mahatma Gandhi

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Remove
by "jeannie＠accucomm.net"＠accucomm.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Please remove our e-mail address from your services we received three viruses from erractic re-mail. Thank You Allen Woffard

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Re: STE_pup
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Lucky Green wrote: >Fingerprint readers tend to work regardless if the finger is attached to a >body or not. All that fingerprint readers will do is increase the damage to >those relying on ever increasing, but misguided, methods of authentication. >See the rise in "identity theft" since SSN's began to be used for >identification. Oracle claims they've solved the lopped or faked pinkie problem by verifying other biometry. One device IDs BO. None invade privacy the snakes hiss. What next, BS detectors? Nah, that'd kill commerce and law and government and true love and blind faith in supreme-gold-fool.

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Re: Moderation experiment almost over; "put up or shut up"
by Kent Crispin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sandy Sandfort allegedly said: > [...] > Finally, if anyone wants to discuss why the Cypherpunk list has > come to this, or what I did right or wrong as a moderator, let's > talk about--on the new list(s) YOU create. For now, though, it's > off-topic. We have work to do. If a scheme can be worked out for a distributed list, I am willing to support maybe 100 users at songbird. -- Kent Crispin "No reason to get excited", kent@songbird.com,kc@llnl.gov the thief he kindly spoke... PGP fingerprint: 5A 16 DA 04 31 33 40 1E 87 DA 29 02 97 A3 46 2F

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Re: NETLINK_IPSEC
by Bryce 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Has anyone tried IPSEC with the 2.1.x kernels? Are there a logcation that > describes the differences between 2.0.x and 2.1.x? (I have not been able to > find one...) Then again, I have yet to find a list of what was fixed from > kernel to kernel... (Probibly in some directory of the tar file...) Source 1: ftp://ftp.shout.net/pub/users/mec/kcs Source 2: The patch files. :-) Regards, Bryce, not a kernel hacker PGP sig follows -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: Auto-signed under Unix with 'BAP' Easy-PGP v1.1b2 iQB1AwUBMwDzRUjbHy8sKZitAQE5OQL/X/Uv6oIJTQqWsVzRVTF8slnMBZa9sByj ld4mHGvfn7lwQXmdWk7OOngRWum38ZysjRxRk7R5OtULhRsUxRjIe2FhTXFn3v/O nKxHOTmbbwvz/flovkg7cUFeIk/7iCEl =ucy1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Moderation experiment almost over; "put up or shut up" (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:30:54 -0800 > From: Alan Olsen <alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com> > >offered nothing in the past but criticism, it's now time to get a > >bit more real. What will it be, your money, time, equipment? > > What kind of memory requirements/machine load does the list eat up? I have a > machine that may fit this purpose... (Need to know if I need to upgrade the > box though.) A minimum standard for a useable remailer (YMMV): 486DX(blah) 16M 1G IDE Mitsumi CD Rom (very widely supported) VGA 1M NE2000 x 2 (Internet & Intranet) High-speed serial ports x 3 (Mouse, Modems x 2) [optional] ISDN Bridge (incl. NT-1, no POTS) ISDN Line (contact business office) Internet Provider (commercial service, nameservice, news, etc.) 10BaseT Bridge [optional, depends on Bridge] Registration of domain name [optional, suggested] Linux (WinNT if clueless) For a full-time commercial feed in Austin, Tx. your talking about: Startup: $600 Machine $100 VGA Monitor $100 Computer accessories $400 28.8 Modems ($200 x2) $150 ISDN install $1k ISDN Bridge $500 ISP setup & init (this is commercial, not hobby) $100 Initial name registry $300 UPS $3,250 Monthlies: $50 Phones ($25 x2) $25 Utilities $75 ISDN $400 ISP connection $550 Note: * This machine can't be your personal workstation. It will be entirely too busy. * Learn shell, c, Pearl to start. * O'Reilly makes very useful books. * Such a machine will handle from between 100 to 500 accounts depending on how you set up your system. * If you have the money, put it in the bandwidth first. * I would very strongly suggest against using your employers resources for such activities. * You will want at least one dedicated dial-in, no matter what. This is a good place for distinctive ring and a line splitter. Consider this when buying the modem, it will raise the price of the modem. Also consider the personal 800 numbers that are available. * Consider strongly the use of an encrypted file system. While they make automated re-boots impossible their security can be quite appealing. (This is an issue that somebody who is already designing encrypted file systems should look into, how to allow automated reboots w/o manual entry of the key(s).) * Anonymous remailer extensions would not be a major resource hog. * If you are going to consider allowing general access by your users via dial-in use 10 - 15 users per line per day, assuming no enforced quota. Hope this helps anyone who might be interested in starting up such a beast. Jim Choate CyberTects ravage(a)ssz.com When I was a kid, I lived in Pasadena, Tx. just down the street from the Washburn Tunnel. There was a big sign going from Pasadena to the Houston side that said "The grass is greener in Pasadena". This sentiment is the true liberator of the human spirit. Keeping up with the Joneses is burned into our genes.

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Re: NSA Rainbow Series.
by Moroni 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

1-800-688-6115 press 0 or just wait for the operator. My second order consisting of posters and video has not arrived either. It has been about 6 weeks. The Rainbow order was only 2 weeks. Be prepared that when you order the Rainbow series you will be getting a large box.Their are something like 30+ booklets in the series. There is a set of security posters that include a Santa poster.And there is also a video with two films on it (Acess Ins and outs adb Acess Control). Good luck on your mission Mr. Phelps, moroni On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Genocide wrote: > Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:42:08 -0800 (PST) > From: Genocide <gen2600(a)aracnet.com> > To: Cypherpunks Mailing List <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> > Subject: NSA Rainbow Series. > > > A while back someone posted the 1-800 number for the NSA to call > in and get the Rainbow series delivered.... well, I called and put in an > order and it never came, I need to call them again... I don't have the > phone numbere number anymore...does anyone have it? Can someone > email me the number again? > > Genocide > Head of the Genocide2600 Group > > > ============================================================================ > **Coming soon! www.Genocide2600.com! > ____________________ > *---===| |===---* > *---===| Genocide |===---* "You can be a king or a street > *---===| 2600 |===---* sweeper, but everyone dances with the > *---===|__________________|===---* Grim Reaper." > > Email: gen2600(a)aracnet.com Web: http://www.aracnet.com/~gen2600 > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > It is by caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion. > It is by the Mountain Dew that the thoughts acquire speed, > the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. > It is by caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion. > ================================================================================ > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx x No success can compensate for failure in the home. x x x xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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