December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by ice＠win.bright.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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DES 128
by DataETRsch＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

DES 128 is a cloned version of the original DES.

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Bennet Haselton of Peacefire on ISP-TV "Real Time" Monday night
by ISP-TV Main Contact 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

*** ISP-TV Program Announcement: "Real Time" Interview with Bennet Haselton Founder of Peacefire *** *** Monday, Jan. 13 *** *** 9:00 PM ET *** Bennet Haselton is the founder of Peacefire, a "teen Net anti-censorship Alliance." He's an 18-year old student at Vanderbilt University, and has recently been involved in a dispute with Solid Oak Software over their product "Cybersitter." Haselton claims that he simply ran the software, and found out that it blocked far more than just cyberporn, but also other web sites such as the National Organization for Women. Solid Oak's Mark Kanter says "There was no way he could have known who was on our list without breaking into our system." We'll talk with Haselton about Peacefire, the ethics of kid-proofing the net with censorware, and perhaps hear his side of the Cybersitter dispute. Call-in questions will be taken during the show at (301) 847-6571. **** "Real Time" Extra: The MAE-East, up close and personal. RT recently traveled to the Mecca of the Internet, the MAE-East, a major Internet peering point where over 50 providers continually exchange between 300 and 700 Mbps of data. See what the GigaSwitches look like, marvel at the power backup system, find out what soda cans technicians leave behind in the MAE. All this after the Haselton interview. **** This video interview can be viewed on the ISP-TV main CU-SeeMe reflector at IP 205.197.248.54, or other ISP-TV affiliate reflectors listed at http://www.digex.net/isptv/members.html. See URL http://www.digex.net/isptv for more information about the ISP-TV Network To obtain Enhanced CU-SeeMe software, go to: http://goliath.wpine.com/cudownload.htm

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Re: Re: encryption program
by DataETRsch＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Was your anaylsis for IMDMP or another algorithm? Jeremy... President DataET Research Data Engineering Technologies

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[STEGO] Goppa codes
by mixmaster＠remail.obscura.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timothy C[unt] Mayonnaise was born when his mother was on the toilet. . ___ o Timothy C[unt] Mayonnaise ^z\/o\ o ^z/\_~_/ ' '

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Re: would you be my friend?
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Z.B." <zachb(a)netcom.com> writes: > On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: > > > dozer(a)netwizards.net writes: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I'm 14 years old and I think I may be a gay. I'm looking for some suppor > > > with a older male age 18-40. Please email if you can help. > > > > > > > I'm sure you'll make lots of friends on the cypherpunks mailing list. > > > Looks like he's already made one. Dozer, John Gilmore is 58 - would you consider a MUCH older man? --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Robert Moskowitz, Jon Michael Zimmerman, Geoffrey Leon Shapiro
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Who are these people?

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nice work
by Clint Barnett 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

no doubt everybody on the list recieved a spam about some personalised children's books. Having been away or a few weeks, I only just today got to replying to that message. I recieved a response indicating that my response was undeliverable due to the mailbox being full. I just wanted to say that I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't stand that crap. Nice work. clint barnett lord of the cosmos emily carr institute

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Re: A vote of confidence for Sandy
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:14 PM 1/10/97 -0500, Ray Arachelian wrote: >Sandfort isn't the only one who will do this, there will be a pool of >moderators. Regardless of your personality conflict, I am sure that Sandy >will remain fair and allow appropriate posts from you through. i.e. >anything to do with crypto. :) Just for the record, I have volunteered to serve as a co-moderator. I do not know at this time if my services will be required. I am certain that I would not enjoy this job. I have better things to do than moderate Cypherpunks. But as a long time subscriber, I care about the list. I see only one alternative to moderating Cypherpunks. And that is shutting it down to let other lists pick up the various parts of the discussion. Hard core crypto can go to Coderpunks, crypto and politics can go to Cryptography. The drivel and whining can go to hell. I am willing to give the moderation experiment a chance. If it doesn't work, I will advocate shutting down the list. As with every TAZ that stays up for too long, Cypherpunks eventually got infested by vermin. Vulis, aga, et al. come to mind. In my experience, once that happens there is only one solution: take down the TAZ and start over somewhere else. The problem is always the same: the belief that "anarchy" means that you have to tolerate people shitting on everybody's floor. Anarchy means no such thing. [Since I filter on Vulis and aga in the body text of all incoming email, I am unlikely to read any replies to this post. Of course, if I was to serve as a co-moderator, I would read all messages and decide on them individually.] Thanks, -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred Make your mark in the history of mathematics. Use the spare cycles of your PC/PPC/UNIX box to help find a new prime. http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm

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Comments on moderation
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I have been reading the comments on moderation and I have a few comments on it... I would like to see moderation, but only for those things that filters cannot handle effectivly. 1) The Spam that has been flooding the list. It looks like someone has an axe to grind against the list or certain people on it, so they are doing their best to disrupt it. The spam is only part of that attack. It should be dealt with as any other denial of service attack. 2) The anonymous flames against Tim May (or anyone else for that matter...). These messages contain no useful content. They only serve to allow certain overgrown juviniles to vent against people they dislike. Killing the above would greatly improve the quality of the list. The rest can be killed by filters. As for the people who are crying "censor", I have seen little evidence that the doom they predict is going to happen. (I think that they revel in the idea that they are the "persecuted masses" who are being hassled by "the man".) I have been on this list for a number of years. (Since at least 1994, maybe earlier than that...) Sandy has been one of the more rational voice on the list in that time and he has been here longer than I have. (I have not always agreed with him, but then again, I can think of no one that I would agree with 100%. Even myself...) Hopefully the criteria used for moderation will not be so heavy handed that the list becomes bland and tasteless (like a high school textbook from Texas). Just my $0.00002 worth... --- | If you're not part of the solution, You're part of the precipitate. | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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