December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by Black Unicorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'll be off the list for a time. I am going to be traveling where there are no net connections to be had so I am unsubscribing to keep the mail box to a sane level. E-mail will be held, but not read for some time. -- Forward complaints to : European Association of Envelope Manufactures Finger for Public Key Gutenbergstrasse 21;Postfach;CH-3001;Bern Vote Monarchist Switzerland

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Cypherpunks as Philosopher Kings [was permanent invasion of privacy]
by attila＠primenet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Currently, I am not sure what the charter of cypherpunks really stands for, if anything. As it stands, the list has a far more erudite group than the list it probably should be. certainly more privacy and social engineering issues resulting from the deprivation of privacy than code. I don't believe Cypherpunks was ever intended to be a technical forum; I was not on for the first few months so I missed the formative discussions of the elitist few, most of whom, other than founder tcmay, have left for greener pastures. In the beginning years, there was a substantial amount of crypto code, etc. passed around and argued. However, the few of us who do code, do not generate enough messages relating to code to warrant a list; therefore the passionate interests which travel as coders' baggage seem to explode and others, some technically competent and some not, join the list and the circus goes on. Frankly, I have hired and "mind-fucked" (pardon my french, for lack of a more descriptive expression) scores of hacker grade philosophers. That is exactly where it runs: they are philosophers first and creative coders second. As to their knowledge of philo- sophy, and the direction of their creative talents to a logical and usable conclusion, they score a fat zero as by and large they are geeks and idealistic social nerds. --hence the need for subtle background manipulation to make these philosopher-coders think your design is actually their great philosophic-coder design. Yes, and _never_ assign two of them to the same compartment: the code never works --absolutely will not share tasks. Common interface boundaries? No problem for their minds, but too creatively selfish to code associative modules. For that reason alone, I hold C++ in contempt: a black box that is _supposed_to_ to look for 'this' and give you 'that.' C++ is an ignorant managers ultimate wet dream: "reusable code containers for disposable programmers." For some reason, Bjorn elucidated a strenuous objection to my statement. <g> For what it's worth, the above is my perception of cypherpunks: an interesting collection of philosopher kings, some of whom are putting their convictions to the means of thwarting the common enemy. It is no accident most subscribers, and certainly all the doers, are anti-government with a preference for social anarchy, the anarchy tempered by some level of realization that the mass of humanity can not govern itself in a society which is inherently evil. However, if the Libertarian Party can not field a better candidate than Harry Brown, anarchy, or a premature dictatorship, it will be. The US is in the last laugh of the oligarchy at this point in time. In <1.5.4.32.19961218084853.005de95c(a)popd.ix.netcom.com>, on 12/18/96 at 12:48 AM, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com said: ::Attila wrote, :: symposium were Dr. Jack C. Westman of the University of :: Wisconsin-Madison, author of "Licensing Parents: Can We :: Prevent Child Abuse and Neglect?" and Professor David T. :: Lykken of the University of Minnesota, author of "The :: Antisocial Personalities." Westman and Lykken are the :: most prominent advocates of a system of parental :: licensure in which parents would have to be certified :: "competent" by the government before being permitted to :: raise a child. :: ::and blanc wrote :: Someone needs to remind this Senator Lykken what happened in Romania, :: when the beleaguered citizen-units finally took their 'noble', social :: engineering leader Ceausescu, put him up against a wall and :: shot him. :: I do not believe they gave him the benefit (?) of the wall. Ceausescu, like all "communist" dictators of this century, was just that: a dictator falsely claiming to be the 'Great Father' who will right all the wrongs, put too many chickens in each pot, and generally hold your hand while his local version of the Gestapo permanently eliminates dissent. It appears to works until the state has drained the natural and human resources of value, further accelerated by corruption and the increasing apathy of the people who no longer produce more than a subsistence living at best. ::Fortunately, Lykken appears to just be a professor, not a legislator, ::so he can spend your money but can't tell you what to do. ::He's obviously also a subject of his book...... out of curiosity I was poking around a bit; he apparently has legislative backers. I would be surprised if the bill made it out a subcommittee hearing. however, his theory melds nicely with the intentions of superbitch; there is no doubt in my perception of her '...Village' --superbitch is heading for the nursery of "Logan's Run" and the surrogate nanny super-machines. --35+ years ago the book? I did not see the movie which may or may not have been able to deal with the concept of enforced euthanasia at age 21. Super- bitch must have seen the movie too many times, or slept with the book in her early pubescent dreams. ::Before we go licensing parents, we ought to license people who ::want to be Big Brothers...... License them? Why license them before we hang them? ::[This didn't seem to be cypherpunks material any more...] Actually, it is: invasion of privacy; no secure communica- tions, and all the other falderol. - -- I'll get a life when it is proven and substantiated to be better than what I am currently experiencing. --attila -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: Encrypted with 2.6.3i. Requires 2.6 or later. iQCVAwUBMrgsD704kQrCC2kFAQH53gQAomp4242ItlDhZpLijYtsyrq/ZQNFRljs GRxBjNJeKX2FgId9B5LOg+nhSQ2WUI8m26km8Qlo2pnqjJVDa+aSCJg70ljHqBrT vDKBx/IHX9LeJGgFsjUBz//qJvclwt2Amk678/vm72c8yXF1nECc8d2JaFPDbrXB BC2r6AkTN9s= =sbYD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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17 Dec '03

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Re: ITAR -> EAR; loss of First Amendment Rights.
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 09:43 PM 12/14/96 -0500, Peter D. Junger wrote: >: I am not aware of any prior time when the government >: attempted to claim that printed material, freely >: available in bookstores and newsstands to US citizens, >: became contraband when sold or given to a non-citizen. > >A literal reading of the ITAR's provisions relating to cryptography >leads to exactly that result. And there have been strong suggestions >that that is the intended result in some of the statements made by >representatives of the State Department. > >If you are interested in this you might look into MIT's experiences >when they published the book with the PGP source code. Look back at the first few volumes of Cryptologia in which this debate was documented -- back in 1978 ff. The NSA under Adm. Inman tried to get crypto declared born classified, just like atomic weapons work. Congress told him NO. Perhaps it's time for Congress to speak again. You'd think these folks would take 'no' for an answer.... - Carl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMrg46VQXJENzYr45AQEyKwP+NEErSUEv/nOQvN5C6sLLq2CxDR/YYEsp mUvwtNxUjXT6iL71hA/5Pn7n1tdRUipkOeUXx5OGoOJ4rtZ/USIEXtqogLsCjXHo OsECu1ytMT/d9MFkSjM3ARenVXE5u39Q4HBSJ+RGnU9mTbB7r2R4dYsjeTQF2rkG pKEVFxNFMio= =5cLt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Carl M. Ellison cme(a)cybercash.com http://www.clark.net/pub/cme | |CyberCash, Inc. http://www.cybercash.com/ | |207 Grindall Street PGP 2.6.2: 61E2DE7FCB9D7984E9C8048BA63221A2 | |Baltimore MD 21230-4103 T:(410) 727-4288 F:(410)727-4293 | +------------------------------------------------------------------+

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pdf and ps files
by pjb＠ny.ubs.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

does anyone know of any routines and/or scripts to extract text from .pdf or .pd files (acrobat or postscript, that is). crypto relavance, of course, i am trying to extract the gwbasic code from the army crypytanalysis manual that just appeared on the web. (-: cheers, -paul

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Re: [NOT NOISE] Microsoft Crypto Service Provider API
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 01:13 AM 12/18/96 -0500, Marc Horowitz wrote: >You're right, you haven't looked at it closely. Although it doesn't >have Key Escrow, new cryptosystems can only be added if they are >signed by a private key held by Microsoft. Of course, Microsoft has >agreed with the State Dept. to sign only export-"strength" crypto. I should let Microsoft defend their own turf, but they told me they will sign anyone's CSP. Once the CSP is signed, Microsoft is off the export hook. It's now *your* problem to obey the export laws or keep your CSP inside the country. That's what's so brilliant about the MS CSP design. By getting them off the hook for enforcing export laws, they can write S/W to call the CSP and just plain ignore the export hassles. If you can't handle it yourself, delegate it! - Carl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMrhda1QXJENzYr45AQH4CAP+Kv9cEqV3z1aRVTTdA4DcLyQSF0D59xip QUAJWXMZJomqX/qE4PduGG8OZbvgkmLfHwJrm6v1HbjndmLhbp9FnKHLT2i5IL1B ilkGGEvglc19SwprsGnjGYZRbjQRxbObQmr/Qc8R9Z5jWzAdpxsWM/vAXTvTkevT TIYnt7AvehA= =r+qm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Carl M. Ellison cme(a)cybercash.com http://www.clark.net/pub/cme | |CyberCash, Inc. http://www.cybercash.com/ | |207 Grindall Street PGP 2.6.2: 61E2DE7FCB9D7984E9C8048BA63221A2 | |Baltimore MD 21230-4103 T:(410) 727-4288 F:(410)727-4293 | +------------------------------------------------------------------+

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More on Van Eck
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Steve Schear has provided a 1988 follow-up article on Van Eck's 1985 study of EMR snooping. It includes a letter by Van Eck explaining why he omitted certain information in the original article, and why his employer "classified" more sophisticated studies of "compromising emanation." We've put up HTML and PDF versions: http://jya.com/bits.htm (12 kb plus 2 images) http://jya.com/bits.pdf (85 kb)

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RE: The virus I got...
by Internaut 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Mark Rosen[SMTP:mrosen@peganet.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 04.37 PM >Oh, and as far as I know, no virus was installed, >though you should check for one just for good measure. There was one, though I don't remember what it's name was. Maby it was Monkey. I already deleted it. --Internaut

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Re: The virus I got...
by Mark Rosen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> There was an e-mail sent to the list that had attached to it a virus. Well > lucky me I got. It was a .com file that apparently turns your files into > directories. I can't boot into Win95 since it turned my HIMEM.SYS into a > directory. So, I seem to have fixed that, but now it says "access denied" > and then prompts me with C:\>. Did anyone else get it? Has anyone heard > or fixed this virus? Yes. FIrst of all, NEVER run any executable you recieve that is just attached to an e-mail message like that. Unfortunately, my stupid trackpad on my laptop slipped and I too ran the file. Your registry has been deleted and it looks like every file that was not hidden in the Windows directory (or at least a lot of them) have been renamed and made directories. I suspect the file information still exists but is messed up. You probably won't ever be able to get it back. First you need to remove all of the rogue directories (type dir /w/o/p at c:\windows\ and then rmdir everything in brackets that looks like it was a file - it'll have a '.' in its name). You can then reinstall Windows 95. All of your configuration will be lost, but at least you're up again. I'm posting this to the list if anyone else has also run this program, but if anyone has any more questions, please e-mail mrosen(a)peganet.com. Did anyone find out a real e-mail address from this guy. I'd like to uhhh... cyberbeat him. Oh, and as far as I know, no virus was installed, though you should check for one just for good measure. Mark Rosen FireSoft - http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/2690 Mark Eats AOL - http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/6660

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Earl Edwin Pitts, $224,000
by Adam Shostack 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.cnn.com/US/9612/18/fbi.spy/index.html FBI agent spied for Soviet Union, Russia. "He also provided a stolen FBI handset to a telecommunications device used to transmit classified information," Too bad he didn't have access to the Clipper database. That would have helped us find its free market price. Adam -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume

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