December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Forget DES, crack CAVE; was: Newt may be more receptive to encryption now
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I think what's important to stress is that technical fixes work, laws >don't. > >Net-advocates in DC are already planning to suggest to Republicans that >they use crypto as a hammer to nail Gore (the chief White House supporter >of the current policy) and draw votes and cash from Silicon Valley. > >-Declan > > >On Thu, 16 Jan 1997 Scottauge(a)aol.com wrote: > >> >> Given his troubles with this "hay seed" scanner recording democrats, ol' Newt >> may be more receptive to encryption. >> >> Our privacy certainly is getting trashed by this presidency and I am hoping >> an impeachment is coming down the line. >> >> Since the congress is who makes the laws, maybe we all can focus some snail >> mail to these guys. >> >> Perhaps EFF could even draft some laws for our protection (what a joke - just >> to keep busy body beaurocrats outta our business). >> >> What does it matter anyhow, these guys dont read their own 300 - 5000 page >> laws anyhow.... >> >> Hopeless.... >> >> Why don't we threaten to monitor and post RealAudio of all the politico's juciest cellular intrigues, or design and distribute CAVE cracking software to allow simple monitoring of digital cellular communications. IMHO, this would be a better demonstration that the DES crack being contemplated. -- Steve

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Re: encryption program
by ed.falk＠Eng.Sun.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > I ran a quick Kappa test on it. ... I had a blast with this one. I was up until 4:30 last night working on Pierre van Rooyen's "Here follows a example..." cryptogram. It's like doing a jigsaw puzzle; there's a hump you cross over near the end where everything just falls into place. Jim Gillogly broke it in only a few hours, whereas I must have put in a whole day cumulatively (half of that writing software), but it was my first real cryptogram. It was a hell of a learning experience. They say that you can't design a crypto system until you've broken someone else's first, and this really drove it home.

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No Subject
by T. O'Brien 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Get me off this fucking list, or else.... (fwd)
by Rodrigo Espirito Santo 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:30:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Rodrigo Espirito Santo <res(a)unidyne.uni.pt> To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Get me off this fucking list, or else.... Hey you dumb asses, i tried to unsubscribe this list in the correct way but you guys don't know SHIT about this!!!!1 If you don't get me out now i'll subscribe each and every one of you to some goddamn gay and lesbiann and freak mailing list!!!!!! get me out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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(U.S.) National Cryptography Policy (paper and report)
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:09:24 CST Reply-To: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> From: Lyonette Louis-Jacques <llou(a)MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU> Subject: (U.S.) National Cryptography Policy (paper and report) Comments: To: net-lawyers(a)eva.dc.LSOFT.COM To: CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM I'm forwarding this post to the CYBERIA-L and NET-LAWYERS lists as I think subscribers might be interested in these documents (include discussion of export controls), and their implication for international communications. Cheers, Lyo (Lyonette Louis-Jacques at llou(a)midway.uchicago.edu) Cryptography and the National Resource Council: The Role of Private Groups in Public Policy, by Kenneth W. Dam, is now available on the Web. http://www.law.uchicago.edu/Publications/Occasional/ The Role of Private Groups in Public Policy is adapted from a presentation made to the Presidents' Circle of the National Academy of Sciences and the Institute of Medicine, Washington, D.C., November 21, 1996. It was recently issued as Occasional Paper No. 38 by the University of Chicago Law School. Kenneth W. Dam, Max Pam Professor of American and Foreign Law, University of Chicago Law School, was the Chair of the National Research Council's Committee to Study National Cryptography Policy. The Committee unanimously recommended eliminating restrictions on domestic use of encryption, and progressively relaxing restrictions on export. The government's concerns that national security and law enforcement agencies would be unable to eavesdrop on criminals and terrorists must be balanced against the dangers that American firms would be unable to lawfully use encryption strong enough to protect electronic commerce, and that American software developers, forced to use key escrow/key recovery encryption in their products ("a Maginot Line of defense against hackers") would find no market for their products. A late draft of the Committee's Report, "Cryptography's Role in Securing the Information Society," is available at their home page: http://www2.nas.edu/cstbweb/2646.html ----------- Paradise is exactly like + where you are right now .&______~*@*~______&. m only much, much, better "w/%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%\w" mmm*** ------------------------ `Y""Y""Y"""""Y""Y""Y' mm***** Language -- it's a shipwreck, p-p_|__|__|_____|__|__|_q-q mm**Y** it's a job - Laurie Anderson _-[EEEEM==M==MM===MM==M==MEEEE]-_.|..|.... (two .sigs sighted on the Net) --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "The cost of anything is the foregone alternative" -- Walter Johnson The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/rah/ FC97: Anguilla, anyone? http://offshore.com.ai/fc97/ "If *you* don't go to FC97, *I* don't go to FC97"

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Albuquerque, Anyone?: Hettinga goes on the road...
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm going to be in Albuquerque seeing family for a week starting tomorrow. Any cypherpunks/e$/technomads folks out there wanna quaff a few, I'd be up for it. Also, I'm looking a temporary PPP dial-up in the Albuquerque for the week I'm there. No mail or news, just PPP, so I can hit my POPserver and run e$pam in remote-mode. Neither rain, nor snow, nor altitude, etc. can keep the e$pamster from his appointed rounds... Thanks! Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "The cost of anything is the foregone alternative" -- Walter Johnson The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/rah/ FC97: Anguilla, anyone? http://offshore.com.ai/fc97/ "If *you* don't go to FC97, *I* don't go to FC97"

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Telecomm Act Reference (Was Re: Newt's phone calls)
by Sarah L. Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From Damien Thorn's 'A CELLULAR COMMUNICATIONS PRIMER' (at http://www.l0pht.com/~drwho/cell/texts/thorn1192.txt) To calm fears that cellular calls were not private, the cellular industry lobbied congress into passing legislation known today as the Electronic Communication Privacy Act (ECPA) of 1986 which makes it a crime to monitor cellular phone calls and a host of other transmissions like digital pagers. This law is used by cellular equipment dealers and service providers to reassure customers that their conversations will remain private. Sarah. ============================================================================== Sarah L. Green Hey, I never claimed to be >>osprey<< Madison, AL (USA) a genius nor a typist greens(a)hiwaay.net ==============================================================================

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Re: Key Revokation Scheme
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:32 PM 1/14/97 -0500, harka(a)nycmetro.com wrote: >I started thinking about the issue, how to set up a system to have >somebody else revoke your key for you, if you don't have the means >to do so yourself. >The possible case I had in mind was, what if you're maybe a >dissident, you get arrested and your apartment (incl. disks/keys) >gets raided. You don't have any means to revoke the key yourself, >don't even have e-mail in general, and with the "one phone call", [.... method deleted .... lawyer, alice, bob, ... ] Too complex for what you're really doing. Give your lawyer a floppy with the key revocation certificate and a yellow sticky about how to call Alice or Bob for help if your lawyer's not computer-literate enough to follow the README file. If you're paranoid about the cops getting your unindicted co-conspirators' names, use PGP Inc. or some computer consultant instead of Alice and Bob and have your lawyer pay their per-hour rate. On your One Phone Call, tell him to get the floppy out of the sealed envelope in his safe and use it. Key revocation certificates don't leak your private keys, so the only risk if the Bad Guys get a copy is denial of service, including the pain of rebuilding all your connections, etc.; it doesn't leak your communications or allow them to forge mail. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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Re: Forgery detection
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timmy C. May's reheated, refurbished, and regurgitated cud is completely inappropriate for the mailing lists into which it is cross-ruminated. |||~ (0 0) _ooO_(_)_Ooo__ Timmy C. May

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Re: Newt's phone calls
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:45 PM 1/15/97 -0500, Rabid Wombat wrote: > > >On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Declan McCullagh wrote: > >> Don't be too sure that crypto is that far beneath the radar. I spent >> Thursday through Saturday at an annual privacy conference for activists >> from around the country, and they understood the principles. Their >> voicemails were filling up with calls from reporters last Friday about the >> Gingrich incident, and I know they were talking crypto. > ... > >"Call Privacy and Security" are listed in bold, with "Say goodbye to >eavesdropping" right below. Don't sell the public short; even me mum >knows her cordless phone is insecure. ;) > I had to tell my sister not to use the cordless phone to use the automated banking services that our bank has available on grounds that transfers are also available through the same service. Our father is a math teacher, computer hobbyists since 1979. Both of my parents have college educations. My sister pegged the scales on the state distributed proficiency tests. Yet she knows practically nothing outside of her field. I will probably have to show her the values of cryptography before she actually has any patient records to deal with, (she's a pharmacy major.)

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