December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Virus?
by Eric Wilson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:10 PM 12/10/96 EST, you wrote: >Has anybody heard of the Monkey_B virus? If so what does it do exactly? >Also does anybody know where I could find a downloadable Win95 upgrade >upgrading Windows 3.x to Win95? > > The Monkey virus ( I'm not sure what the "B" variant has altered ) is a memory resident, stealth, boot infector that writes ( and encrypts!) the partition table to side 0, cyl 0, sector 3 of your hard disk. It then modifies your MBR to point to this location. When the virus is resident it infects any floppy ( not write protected )that is accessed by the system. If you need help with cleaning the Monkey from your system, try asking the geniuses at alt.comp.virus for some help. Keep in mind they argue with each other more than cypherpunks do! Here's a hint on cleanup, booting clean and running Fdisk/mbr will remove the virus from your hard disk, but it WILL NOT restore your partition table! Eric

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DCSB: Applying PGP To Digital Commerce
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Sender: rah(a)pop.tiac.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:08:44 -0500 To: dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu, dcsb-announce(a)ai.mit.edu From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> Subject: DCSB: Applying PGP To Digital Commerce Sender: bounce-dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----BY SAFEMAIL----- The Digital Commerce Society of Boston Presents Rodney Thayer Sable Technology Corporation "Applying PGP To Digital Commerce" Tuesday, January 7, 1996 12 - 2 PM The Downtown Harvard Club of Boston One Federal Street, Boston, MA Rodney Thayer has 20 years experience in the software development business. For the past 10 years he has been designing, implementing, deploying, and troubleshooting networking software. He currently is the Principal of a consulting firm based in Newton, Massachusetts where he is involved in the implementation of communications products for a variety of customers, including software vendors, major end-user organizations, and several governmental organizations both foreign and domestic. He also writes and lectures on the deployment, troubleshooting, and implementation of data communications networks. Mr. Thayer will talk about how PGP can be used in the business world today, for exchange of information, digitally identifying documents, and other commerce applications. In this presentation, we will discuss the application of PGP, including mechanics, the cryptographic and legal issues, and the infrastructure requirements for it's use. The state of the art in digital message encryption is now at the point where it has become practical to use encrypted and digitally signed email for digital commerce. Recently, one scheme, PGP, has emerged from the realm of the cyberpunk as a legitimate tool for business. Commercial products are now available that support PGP encryption in electronic mail and for documents and digital storage. PGP is no longer a cult tool for computer junkies and cyberpunks. It is a legitimate, sound cryptographic technology that can be used, today, for digital commerce. As an increasingly crypto-aware business community searches for solutions, the question of how to use message encryption tools such as PGP becomes germaine to the business community. This meeting of the Digital Commerce Society of Boston will be held on Tuesday, January 7, 1996 from 12pm - 2pm at the Downtown Branch of the Harvard Club of Boston, One Federal Street. The price for lunch is $27.50. This price includes lunch, room rental, and the speaker's lunch. ;-). The Harvard Club *does* have dress code: jackets and ties for men, and "appropriate business attire" for women. We will attempt to record this meeting and put it on the web in RealAudio format at some future date We need to receive a company check, or money order, (or, if we *really* know you, a personal check) payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", by Saturday, January 4, or you won't be on the list for lunch. Checks payable to anyone else but The Harvard Club of Boston will have to be sent back. Checks should be sent to Robert Hettinga, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, Massachusetts, 02131. Again, they *must* be made payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston". If anyone has questions, or has a problem with these arrangements (We've had to work with glacial A/P departments more than once, for instance), please let us know via e-mail, and we'll see if we can work something out. Planned speakers for DCSB are: February David Kaufman 1996 in Review / Predictions for 1997 March TBA April Stewart Baker Encryption Policy and Digital Commerce We are actively searching for future speakers. If you are in Boston on the first Tuesday of the month, and you would like to make a presentation to the Society, please send e-mail to the DCSB Program Commmittee, care of Robert Hettinga, rah(a)shipwright.com . For more information about the Digital Commerce Society of Boston, send "info dcsb" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu . If you want to subscribe to the DCSB e-mail list, send "subscribe dcsb" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu . Looking forward to seeing you there! Cheers, Robert Hettinga Moderator, The Digital Commerce Society of Boston -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----BY SAFEMAIL----- Version: 1.0b5 e29 iQCVAwUBMq6xm/gyLN8bw6ZVAQFMMAP/f1zlK1gngnR8Lj3YXAIuKaZhw5ldsCb5 h0+JqPT6i6Yxxd64sOUosIZ20jgd2Msjg3Di3We4TfZVB/fZRq89sjDp+9CYd32o MSN8ldSGbaTGabwvAMGWMG5OkCwBGYjPyxwSf6/iBZtb3VbWiTHdR+g/YMIkCKHJ WMclXCtZAHU= =1f7Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "The cost of anything is the foregone alternative" -- Walter Johnson The e$ Home Page: http://www.vmeng.com/rah/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To unsubscribe from this list, send a letter to: Majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu In the body of the message, write: unsubscribe dcsb Or, to subscribe, write: subscribe dcsb If you have questions, write to me at Owner-DCSB(a)ai.mit.edu --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "The cost of anything is the foregone alternative" -- Walter Johnson The e$ Home Page: http://www.vmeng.com/rah/

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Utility of Snake Oil FAQ
by C Matthew Curtin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Got a bit of an update for everyone who was interested in the utility of the Snake Oil FAQ. Tim May raised the issue that it seems likely that a usenet FAQ will only reach people sufficiently clued to look for a usenet FAQ, which probably means they're clued enough to already know what's in the FAQ. I myself had this concern, but went ahead taking everyone's input and working on it anyway. I received at least a half dozen requests from folks wanting to include it in internal memorandums, reference it in other (nontechnical) works about Internet and security issues, etc. It would seem that the message is getting out (admittedly slowly, perhaps at the rate of two a month), but I suspect that as more attention is brought to it, we'll continue to reach more people who need to see it. -matt P.S. For those of you who have tuned in late, the URL is http://www.research.megasoft.com/people/cmcurtin/snake-oil-faq.html -- Matt Curtin cmcurtin(a)research.megasoft.com Megasoft, Inc Chief Scientist http://www.research.megasoft.com/people/cmcurtin/ I speak only for myself. Hacker Security Firewall Crypto PGP Privacy Unix Perl Java Internet Intranet

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Quadratic residues
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Now is the time for all good little boys to cum in Tim May's big mouth. \|/ /~~~~~~~\ | O O | -ooo-----U-----ooo- Tim May

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Re: OECD crypto policy draft guidelines
by Robin Whittle 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What is this list about?? Religion, the semantics of reality vs. perception or doing something constructive about crypto policy??? The latest draft of the OECD guidelines are now at my WWW site. http://www.ozemail.com.au/~firstpr/crypto/oecd_dr.htm Check them out - especially para 59. All the bad bits have been relegated to debateable things in square brackets. Get your mind into this and get your comments to Marc Rotenberg - who I understand is involved with the OECD crew. So much for "PICS is not censorship" being off topic for this list! - Robin . Robin Whittle . . http://www.ozemail.com.au/~firstpr firstpr(a)ozemail.com.au . . 11 Miller St. Heidelberg Heights 3081 Melbourne Australia . . Ph +61-3-9459-2889 Fax +61-3-9458-1736 . . Consumer advocacy in telecommunications, especially privacy . . . . First Principles - Research and expression - music, . . music industry, telecommunications . . human factors in technology adoption. . . . Real World Interfaces - Hardware and software, especially . . for music .

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Re: Redlining
by E. Allen Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"mjmiski(a)execpc.com" "Matthew J. Miszewski" 11-DEC-1996 03:52:03.23 >This is the essence of, at least, my disagreement with you Red. I dont >agree that redlining doesnt harm people. You see no harm. I do. Of course redlining causes harm to those who are redlined... they can't get credit. But the same can be said of any system of keeping track of who is likely to repay credit; it means that someone who has defaulted on past loans won't get future ones. Quite simply, while I would agree with you that racism certainly persists (it would be difficult for me to grow up in the South and not see this), I would argue that you have no evidence for that the basic motivation behind redlining is that the people in such areas are less likely to repay credit. -Allen

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WEB: Yahoo/Firefly Website recommendation service
by Alexander Chislenko 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Firefly Network Inc. has just launched a public beta of our website recommendation service on My Yahoo! This service is the result of a partnership between Yahoo! Inc. and Firefly Network, Inc. in application of Automated Collaborative Filtering (ACF) technology to the Web. It allows users to find interesting websites interest and like-minded people, and otherwise help the user navigate the vast domain of sites and people in an intelligent and personalized way. To access the service, please go to <http://my.yahoo.com/> and then click on Firefly button (top right). The recommendation system draws its intelligence from users' ratings. At this point, the database is still small, so you may not get recommendations in all categories and the ones you get may not be optimal. However, as the system collects more ratings and learns more about your personal preferences, you will notice better and better performance. Your ratings will be included into the initial rating database and will help shape experience of many people who will come to the system after you, so please be considerate rating sites. If you have any remarks on the quality of the system or its interface, please send a message to <webfly-seeding(a)firefly.net> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alexander Chislenko <sasha1(a)netcom.com> www.lucifer.com/~sasha/home.html Firefly Network, Inc.: <alexc(a)firefly.net> www.ffly.com 617-234-5452 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Data Security in Buildings
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

As follow-up of the recent discussion of RF detection, we've put a 1995 article on data security in buildings at: http://jya.com/datasec.htm It describes architectural measures to protect data beyond that provided by encryption. We offered this article by E-mail in 1995. Ta-da: a request came from DOJ. It cautions that the global snooping is booming, so what worked in 1995 may be Moscow-Embassy Potemkin: for security hire an ex-KGB spookitect!

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Re: Redlining
by Matthew J. Miszewski 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 03:05 AM 12/11/96 -0700, drose(a)azstarnet.com wrote: >Many people of good will find racial discrimination to be abhorrent. OTOH, >I'm sure that as an attorney you are cognizant of the fact that financial >institutions have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders. Are you suggesting that a fiduciary responsibility is violated by *not* redlining? I stated before that all *real* qualifying factors remain in force. The only irrelevant method to be eliminated is place of residence. Granted, if a certain bank only made loans through direct mail campaigns or some such, an argument *might* be made that risks are higher in certain residential neighborhoods. Breach of fiduciary duty would be thrown out almost immediately as a claim. > >In any case, have you given any consideration to taking your well-meaning >but off-topic thoughts to any one of a number of perhaps more appropriate fora? > Actually, I mentioned redlining as an aside to a totally different point. Red has asserted, and I tend to agree, that this is actually on point. We are discussing the possibilities of crypto anarchy. Matt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMq8U4bpijqL8wiT1AQG+KgP9GOTcxgKTqR+AgUf2qiRjO97kV+QdQ7Tq 6PZIjQYmgSM6YS5Yg75A8iSD2soi9ZFfEM++6TGHqCZ1ViLpNTuQZJGjxB3mUs8D U5eYiPmUEw9NC0z0CCwIPFyxouWtL4lhG3rUEopLuUuqB1OwPkbShIddkGxYRnqt prsuIc6m314= =zUqA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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The Redlining Topic
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:05 AM 12/11/1996, drose(a)AZStarNet.com wrote: >Matthew J. Miszewski wrote: >Many people of good will find racial discrimination to be abhorrent. >OTOH, I'm sure that as an attorney you are cognizant of the fact that >financial institutions have a fiduciary responsibility to their >shareholders. > >In any case, have you given any consideration to taking your >well-meaning but off-topic thoughts to any one of a number of perhaps >more appropriate fora? A discussion of redlining is very much on topic for cypherpunks. Capital markets and their (alleged) inefficiencies are very close to the heart of cypherpunk thinking. A thread we haven't pursued, but will likely get to, is the ways in which inefficiencies are typically introduced by the government, even in the case of redlining. After that point is made, a discussion of the ways in which cryptoanarchy will circumvent governmental scheming will certainly be germane to this forum. Discussions of the nature of bigotry and racial discrimination lie very close to the cypherpunk thinking. In a cryptoanarchy it will be very hard to enforce our ideas of what other people should think. Affirmative action, anti-redlining laws, etc., will likely become far less effective. Disaster? No, a blow struck for human dignity and freedom. Similarly, allegedly well-meaning programs to help the poor through seizure of other people's assets will not do well in a cryptoanarchy. Is this a terrible outcome? Not really. The reasons why are worth discussing and they are worth discussing in this forum. The cypherpunks list benefits from a wide ranging discussion. This was one of the original ideas of the group and is, presumably, why it is a completely open mailing list. These sorts of complaints are particularly inappropriate now that there are two other restrictive mailing lists available for those who want them. One is coderpunks. The other is Perry Metzger's cryptography list. A wide ranging discussion is beneficial because it allows us to truly explore our ideas. Not only do we then achieve a deeper understanding, but completely new ideas also arise. "Let a hundred flowers bloom, let a hundred schools of thought contend." I note that in your comments above, you couldn't resist making a comment which is, apparently in your view, off topic. I would encourage you to pursue these ideas. You obviously find them interesting. Rather than making killjoy comments, which do nothing to promote the discussion, perhaps you should consider posting long thoughtful posts which you believe would raise the level of discourse in this forum. Barring that, learn how to use a killfile. You can killfile on subject line. You can killfile on origin. (I sign my posts consistenly, so they can be killfiled, even though I am posting through the remailers.) Red Rackham

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