December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

testing new Home Web site
by Phiberelic Phreaker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

try this site and tell me how you like it if you dont like it then message Mr.Angry on that page PhReAkInG iS a ViOlEnT pOiSoN. iT cAnNoT Be ApPlIeD eXtErNaLlY tO aNiMaL oR hUmAn TiSsUe WiThOuT sErIoUs InJuRiOuS rEsUlTs. It CaNnOt Be TaKeN iNtErNaLlY wItHoUt InDuCiNg VoMiTtInG, bLiNdNeSs, AnD GeNeRaL pHySiCaLlY uLtImAtElLy ReSuLtInG iN dEaTh. PhReAk ThE pLaNeT--http://www.angelfire.com/ne/PhreakThePlanet/index.html PhIbErDeLiC PhReAkEr

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test new web site
by Phiberelic Phreaker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

look at my page and tell me how you like it if you dont like it please tell Mr.Angry , just click on the un happy face on that page for a quicker reply PhReAkInG iS a ViOlEnT pOiSoN. iT cAnNoT Be ApPlIeD eXtErNaLlY tO aNiMaL oR hUmAn TiSsUe WiThOuT sErIoUs InJuRiOuS rEsUlTs. It CaNnOt Be TaKeN iNtErNaLlY wItHoUt InDuCiNg VoMiTtInG, bLiNdNeSs, AnD GeNeRaL pHySiCaLlY uLtImAtElLy ReSuLtInG iN dEaTh. PhReAk ThE pLaNeT--http://www.angelfire.com/ne/PhreakThePlanet/index.html PhIbErDeLiC PhReAkEr

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testing new Home Web site
by Phiberelic Phreaker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

try this site and tell me how you like it if you dont like it then message Mr.Angry on that page PhReAkInG iS a ViOlEnT pOiSoN. iT cAnNoT Be ApPlIeD eXtErNaLlY tO aNiMaL oR hUmAn TiSsUe WiThOuT sErIoUs InJuRiOuS rEsUlTs. It CaNnOt Be TaKeN iNtErNaLlY wItHoUt InDuCiNg VoMiTtInG, bLiNdNeSs, AnD GeNeRaL pHySiCaLlY uLtImAtElLy ReSuLtInG iN dEaTh. PhReAk ThE pLaNeT--http://www.angelfire.com/ne/PhreakThePlanet/index.html PhIbErDeLiC PhReAkEr

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testing new Home Web site
by Phiberelic Phreaker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

try this site and tell me how you like it if you dont like it then message Mr.Angry on that page PhReAkInG iS a ViOlEnT pOiSoN. iT cAnNoT Be ApPlIeD eXtErNaLlY tO aNiMaL oR hUmAn TiSsUe WiThOuT sErIoUs InJuRiOuS rEsUlTs. It CaNnOt Be TaKeN iNtErNaLlY wItHoUt InDuCiNg VoMiTtInG, bLiNdNeSs, AnD GeNeRaL pHySiCaLlY uLtImAtElLy ReSuLtInG iN dEaTh. PhReAk ThE pLaNeT--http://www.angelfire.com/ne/PhreakThePlanet/index.html PhIbErDeLiC PhReAkEr

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Re: (no subject)
by Angel Luis Ortiz Ruiz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sandy Sandfort wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Javier Rivera wrote: > > > unsuscribe cypherpunks > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > SANDY SANDFORT > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Friend, > > It is impolite and counter-productive to spam a list asking > or demanding how to get unsubscribed. In the future, if you > do not know how to get off a list, ask ONE person on the > list for help. > > To get off Cypherpunks: > > 1) Address an e-mail message to: majordomo(a)toad.com > > 2) In the message body write: unsubscribe cypherpunks > > You will be removed soon thereafter. > > S a n d y > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Friend: Thank's for your asnswer but I already do that. The server say that I'm not in the list but I still reacive the messages. Thankx

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(no subject)
by Javier Rivera 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sandy Sandfort wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Javier Rivera wrote: > > > unsuscribe cypherpunks > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > SANDY SANDFORT > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Friend, > > It is impolite and counter-productive to spam a list asking > or demanding how to get unsubscribed. In the future, if you > do not know how to get off a list, ask ONE person on the > list for help. > > To get off Cypherpunks: > > 1) Address an e-mail message to: majordomo(a)toad.com > > 2) In the message body write: unsubscribe cypherpunks > > You will be removed soon thereafter. > > S a n d y > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Friend: Thank's for your asnswer but I already do that. The server say that I'm not in the list but I still reacive the messages. Thankx again!

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The latest from Sierra On-Line
by Sierra On-Line 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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TIA Counsel Writes
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Fax header: Dec 03 '96 03:57PM D'Ancona &Pflaum D'Ancona & Pflaum, Suite 2900, 30 North LaSalle Street, Chicago, Illinois. Telephone (312) 580-2000. Fax (312) 580- 0923 By Certified Mail Return Receipt Requested and by Fax (212) 799-4003 Mr. John Young 251 West 89th Street Suite 6E New York, New York 10024 Dear Mr. Young: I am writing to you as general counsel of Telecommunications Industry Association ("TIA") which, as you may know, is engaged in the formulation and publication of standards in the communications field. At the request of our client, on November 26, 1996, I accessed your WEB site and both viewed and printed out a list of links to documents dealing with encryption. Among them were documents described as a CAVE Report, CAVE Table and a CAVE Algorithm dated November 20 and November 21, 1996. In this fashion I was also able to view and print out the algorithm document of TIA's Committee TR45.3, with a clear statement that the information in the document may be subject to the export juristiction of the U. S. Department of State under the applicable regulations. The posting on the WEB site of these documents is, in our opinion, a violation of the copyright of TIA and unlawful. Furthermore, the posting of the algorithm may constitute a violation of applicable export regulations. It seems in any event that it will be a violation under regulations to be drafted pursuant to the President's Executive Order of November 15, 1996 which was also accessed by me on your WEB site. I returned to the site last Friday and yesterday, December 2 and noticed that these documents are no longer there. I commend you removing them, but ask for your assurances that they will not be posted again. In addition, it is important that we know how you received this documentation which is strictly restricted in its circulation. I would appreciate hearing from you at your very earliest convenience. Sincerely, Paul H. Vishny To: Susan Hoyler [TIA] by fax (703) 907-7727 To: Eric Schimmel, c/o Wyndham Bristol Hotel - Dallas, by fax (214) 761-7520 ---------- Mr. Vishny and I spoke about his fax. I said that the CAVE- related documents would not be reposted on my Web site, and that TR45.3 had come by anonymous mail, as have others we've published. Mr. Vishny said TIA intended to take no action on this matter but its members must abide NDA. Don't know what the Feds will do with Susan Hoyler's notification about TR45.3. Along with several telcomm biggies some Ft. Meade servers siphoned TR45.3 and most other files on the site -- several times. Well, well! WSJ also remonstrated yesterday; we'll share that thank-you separately.

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Dow-Jones Counsel Writes
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--------- Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:15:07 -0500 To: jya(a)pipeline.com From: legalwfc(a)wsj.dowjones.com (Legal Department - Dow Jones & Co. NYC) Subject: Articles on Your Web Site Hello. I am an attorney with Dow Jones & Company, Inc. I came across your Web site recently and saw that you have incorporated articles from The Wall Street Journal, which is a publication of Dow Jones. Dow Jones is pleased that readers find information in The Wall Street Journal important enough to communicate to other Web users. The articles I've seen are, or have been, located at http://jya.com/clash0.txt; http://jya.com/xpanix.txt; http://www.jya.com/peanut.txt; and http://www.jya.com/boomer.txt. We also appreciate your encouraging others to take a look at our articles. The problem is that posting our copyrighted material at your site violates copyright laws, even if you give us credit, and even if you don't charge people to read the posted material. The same would be true if someone were to republish material that you created without your permission. You can, of course, recommend stories from The Wall Street Journal at your site by citing the headline and the date of the article and providing a brief description. And those articles can be viewed quite easily for a modest subscription fee in The Wall Street Journal Interactive Edition, the Web site of The Wall Street Journal (http://wsj.com) While we hope you keep reading The Wall Street Journal, you must remove our articles from any Web site you control as soon as possible. If you want to talk to me about this, you can reach me at (212) 416-3108. Many thanks. Sincerely, Hunter Farrell Counsel Dow Jones & Company, Inc. --------- We thanked Mr. Farrell for his courteous note, promised to keep WSJ articles off our site and read the paper.

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Dec 3rd, discussion.
by Black Unicorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I want to thank the members of the DCSB and other attendees for the forum. Unfortuantely, I have to include an apology. I managed to run significantly over time, and missed the chance to deal with many of the more interesting subjects. (My own fault in that I thought I had one more hour than I did). I hope the discussion was intersting to the attendees in any event. I will be posting a paper outlining the subject matter in some detail presently. In any event, I'd like to thank those present once again. It was a pleasure. -- Forward complaints to : European Association of Envelope Manufactures Finger for Public Key Gutenbergstrasse 21;Postfach;CH-3001;Bern Vote Monarchist Switzerland

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