December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: UNIX talk and write source...
by pSIONIC dAMAGE 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I can check and let you know, I just got linux 4 christmas. w/source, mostly. > >----------geoboundary > > > > >Fellows, > > Anyone know if and where the source code for UNIX talk and write (or the >equivalent Linux) commands are to be found? Anyone have any terminal to >terminal communication code that they've written that they wouldn't mind >parting with? > > Jay > >oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo >o )\ _. - ._.) = Jesse Lucas - jlucas4(a)capital.edu o >1 /. `- ' ( `--' : http://www.geocites.com/collegepark/7332 1 >1 `- , ) - > ) \ : "I cut off their heads and, like heaps of grain,1 >o (.' \) (.' -. = I piled them up." - Assyrian Ruler o >oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo > >----------geoboundary-- > pSIONIC dAMAGE Zer0 Faith Inc. www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/2608 H/P/A/V/C ANTIVIRUS/COUNTERSECURITY "ONLY THE ELITE SURVIVE!"

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[Fwd: Re: ANIMAL SEX]
by Bubba Rom Dos 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Forged addresses
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 00:01:40 -0800 From: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui(a)plaidworks.com> Subject: Re: Forged addresses To: listmom-talk(a)skyweyr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Precedence: Bulk Reply-To: listmom-talk(a)skyweyr.com At 8:55 PM -0800 12/25/96, Joshua D. Baer wrote: >Do you mean that new subscribers will not be allowed to post until they get >personal "approval" from the listmaster? What lists would you implement >this on? I'd be worried about scaring new people off... it might make >people afraid to post. Actually, a two-level beast. *All* lists become moderated. Every posting that's not from a validated moderator therefore goes to the moderator for approval. If someone on the list wants to post without delays, they can become moderated, thereby becoming a "moderator". Users don't have to -- but put up with posting delays until the moderator comes into the loop. It's somewhat more work for me as moderator. It's a significantly reduced noise level for the list. It forces a positive acceptance of the list rules before someone can post to the list, so this "stupidity by ignorance" goes away -- it also stops the subscribe-and-spam hit and runs, of which I've been nailed by two this month (those are new. Spammers traditionally haven't been smart enough to subscribe, so the non-subscriber limitation has nuked them. These two subscribed, then one set up an auto-bot on his address to respond to every bloody message on the lists with his ad -- to the list. 90 messages later... The other guy just subscribed and started blatting. Both, once I had chats with their postmasters and webmasters, found themselves no longer with email or web addresses, but...) It has, literally, gotten to the point where I can no longer assume that someone can: a) type in their email address correctly. b) read instructions. c) follow instructions. d) behave. so I'm having to revamp my systems to protect them from this new class(es) of internet user. The days of laissez-faire administration are dead. The braindead, the novice blunderer and the spammer have killed them. Sad but true. So to cut out the Spammers and the folks who have no clue what their email is, my systems will be going to the confirmation-reply-before-subscribe setup. The bogus addresses will bounce before subscription, and the spammers will only be able to send them single pieces of e-mail, not sign them up. It's *more* hassle for end-users and reduces ease of use, but sometimes, you have to make things a little tougher for the good of everyone. You can make things too easy, and unfortunately, things are too easy for the spammers, so everyone has to suffer a little bit to put THOSE idiots back in the sewer (while I was gone, there was a major spam attack using plaidworks, to the tune of about 25 addresses. Fairly sophisticated in some ways, but mostly, they knew when I wasn't looking and got around my traps. We're backtracking them as we speak, but in one case, they seem to have broken into a machine to send the spam attack, so it'll be tough...) And to cut out the babblers and other idiots who don't believe they need to behave, be polite, follow rules or whatever, I'm going to make all lists moderated, and then extend moderation priviledges to the "trusted" set of users. That's one way of pulling this off without having to rewrite the list servers, as long as they support multiple moderators. Oh, and on the topic of spammers, here's a warning: some of the spammers seem to have a new, amusing hack: they're forging email aimed at MAILBOTS (like info(a)plaidworks.com -- and doesn't just about *every* site have at least one mailbot these days?) such that the bot responds to the person being spammed. This one's fairly noxious, because there's no subscription or anything, and generally no address validation (how can you validate addresses coming to a mailbot? Um, you can't, basically), and I don't know about you, but I don't log mailbot requests. Well, I will starting tomorrow... Anyway -- if you have mailbots, be aware that people might be starting to use them as attacks, also. It requires more work from them, given that mailbots only send one message per incoming, but if you can build a script that sends mail to 1,000 sites and their info@ address, I'm not sure the person being spammed will realize that it could have been *worse*. And suggestions on how to continue to make mailbots available AND make them reasonably safe encouraged. Logging incoming so you can backtrack headers and try to nail the spammer is at least one way to keep it relatively honest, but I'd rather stop it than patch it together again. That gets tired... -- Chuq Von Rospach (chuq(a)solutions.apple.com) Software Gnome Apple Server Marketing Webmaster <http://www.solutions.apple.com/> Plaidworks Consulting (chuqui(a)plaidworks.com) <http://www.plaidworks.com/> (<http://www.plaidworks.com/hockey/> +-+ The home for Hockey on the net) I got no name or number/ I just hand out the lumber. But if I get a chance to play/ I'm going to show 'em. -- Stick Boy (The Hanson Brothers, SUDDEN DEATH) --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox, e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "The cost of anything is the foregone alternative" -- Walter Johnson The e$ Home Page: http://www.vmeng.com/rah/

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Skipjack cipher deciphered
by Bovine Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Provided without proof: Skipjack is an elliptic curve cipher. -Anonymous

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(Fwd) Re: Bad Idea
by admin＠veracruz.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Good News Folks!! ----- As far as I can tell, cypherpunks wasn't subscribed to anything. What happened instead was someone started forging email in the name of the list's submission address to various of my mailbots, which simply send an informational e-mail back. If they HAD spammed it onto a list, it'd be easier,b ecause I have some anti-spamming stuff in place, plus full logging on where requests come from. I haven't had that on the mailbots before now, because nobody's done this before that i know of. Guess I'm spending the next few days closing this loophole... Sorry for the inconvenience. I'll clean this up as soon as I can, or at least get logging in place to see where it's coming from, because honestly, this one's a tough one to fix without just shutting down the services. And frankly, if someone's starting to use mailbots to spam, lists are in big trouble, because there are zillions of those out there. Most systems, for instance, have "info@xxxxx" addresses, all of which would do exactly what my mailbots are doing. chuq At 5:23 PM -0800 12/26/96, admin(a)veracruz.net wrote: >This service is a bad idea...it has been used to e-mail bomb the >mailing list cypherpunks(a)toad.com. There was no verification message >to make sure we wanted to be on this service. Please make an effort to >correct this immediately. > > >-- >This record generated from address: "206.205.234.41". >This record generated at "6:22:00 PM" on "Thursday, December 26, 1996". > >The browser is "Mozilla/3.01 (Win95; I)" browser. >The referrer was >"http://www.plaidworks.com/NetForms.acgi$/ListAdmin/submit.fdml". -- Chuq Von Rospach (chuq(a)solutions.apple.com) Software Gnome Apple Server Marketing Webmaster <http://www.solutions.apple.com/> Plaidworks Consulting (chuqui(a)plaidworks.com) <http://www.plaidworks.com/> (<http://www.plaidworks.com/hockey/> +-+ The home for Hockey on the net) I got no name or number/ I just hand out the lumber. But if I get a chance to play/ I'm going to show 'em. -- Stick Boy (The Hanson Brothers, SUDDEN DEATH) --- Adam Breaux admin(a)veracruz.net http://www.veracruz.net {Corporate Page } http://www.abyss.com {Extracurricular} http://www.iso-america.com {In Search Of...} "Violence is a cruel world doing what it does best...break the habit...BE NICE" --- me.

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by peggyhn＠isp-inter.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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The Fast to Encrypt Decrypt....
by Fyodor Yarochkin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey.. By the way anyone can advice me the Encryption/Decryption Algorythm, which would give chip. text with different size, related to solt value or something.. i mean some function like size_of_Encrypted_file=H(solt)? PS: better if it 'd be reversed algorythm..

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Re: Forged addresses
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 00:24:51 -0800 From: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui(a)plaidworks.com> Subject: Re: Forged addresses To: listmom-talk(a)skyweyr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Precedence: Bulk Reply-To: listmom-talk(a)skyweyr.com At 12:53 PM -0800 12/26/96, Kass Johns wrote: >I only joined this listserv a few days ago, and suddenly, I got (on >Christmas Eve), about 25 (assumed) bogus subscribers. I had never had any >bogus ones before. well, *that* sounds familiar. Same time, same size... do any of these sites sound familiar? isp-inter.net? softcell.net? superhot.com? mid-night.com? strutyourstuff.com? I'll bet they do... A lot of what got spammed onto my sites were various forms of internet commerce (superhot.com is net-porn-chat or some such, at least two of the others are unsolicited email houses. strutyourstuff is a pretty noxious one, from what little I saw of what they're doing. A pox on all their houses, so to speak, but don't do it with my server, dammit...) But that wasn't it. Someone got mad at the cypherpunks, and spammed their list. And for some godawful reason, the webcrawler admin lists. Someone -- possibly two someones -- were making some interesting political statements.... This christmas eve spam was pretty well planned. It seems to have been exceptionally widespread, aimed at some segments of the internet certain high-and-righteous types find unacceptable, and issued at a time when it was pretty much guaranteed nobody was watching the servers too closely. And it seems pretty widespread in the number of servers hooked into the spam. >My thought is, is there someone who >is lurking among this group who just lies in wait for new folks to >subscribe and add their list to their sick little spamming game? Well, if I were trying to build lists of places to send spam mail from, this is one place I'd watch. That's why, if you don't mind, I won't go into details about my anti-spamming traps in public here. Except in generalities. I've learned to just assume that they're watching. Of course, with any luck they'll figure out I have full logging of the information needed to catch spammers, too, and not take chances with me, because I don't take prisoners... Oh, heck. Gotta run. As I type, the cyberpromo folks are trying to log onto my lists again and setting off my alarms. Oh, before I go, a note on those folks. Make sure that under no circumstances you allow any addresses from: cyberpromo.com cybercastle.com onto your lists. These are folks that will happily sign onto your lists, suck the addresses of people posting to your lists, and add them to their cyberspam mass mailings. These are also the folks AOL's been fighting in court. No ethics, and don't even bother trying to talk to them. Just keep them out. They may be using a third domain these days, but I've caught them sneaking onto lists from various accounts in both domains. Just lock the entire puppy out. That way, they can't spam your lists, and can't suck your lists out and spam them away from your server. You *do* have subscriber lists kept private on your server, right? Nobody can get them, right? -- Chuq Von Rospach (chuq(a)solutions.apple.com) Software Gnome Apple Server Marketing Webmaster <http://www.solutions.apple.com/> Plaidworks Consulting (chuqui(a)plaidworks.com) <http://www.plaidworks.com/> (<http://www.plaidworks.com/hockey/> +-+ The home for Hockey on the net) I got no name or number/ I just hand out the lumber. But if I get a chance to play/ I'm going to show 'em. -- Stick Boy (The Hanson Brothers, SUDDEN DEATH) --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox, e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "The cost of anything is the foregone alternative" -- Walter Johnson The e$ Home Page: http://www.vmeng.com/rah/

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SSN_sii
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Thanks to RF.] Federal Register: December 26, 1996 [Pages 68044-68045]: The Federal Reserve Board solicits comment concerning the public availability and use of social security numbers and other sensitive identifying information about consumers. The FRB, and the FTC, is to conduct a study to determine the availability to the public of sensitive identifying information about consumers, the possibility that such information could be used for financial fraud, and the potential for fraud or risk of loss, if any, to insured depository institutions. Testimony at a recent FTC hearing highlighted how easy it is to obtain identifying information about a consumer and to use that information to fraudulently receive credit in the consumer's name, a practice often referred to as "identity theft." ----- SSN_ssi (9 kb) Or, access the Federal Register at: http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/aces140.html

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by rsampson＠microsyssolutions.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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