December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: What is the EFF doing exactly?
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:17 PM 9/3/96 -0700, Jon Lebkowsky wrote: >>> Not necessarily. The character of the anonymous speech is decisive. If you >>> use anonymity to cloak harassment, for instance, the anonymity (which >>> removes accountability) is a problem. The accountability issue is real and >>> should be addressed, not evaded. At 07:44 AM 9/3/96 -0700, James A. Donald wrote: >>No: The harassment is the problem, not the anonymity that makes it >>possible. At 06:52 AM 9/4/96 -0500, Jon Lebkowsky wrote: >The harassment is one problem, the lack of accountability another. So: Lucky Green and Dark Unicorn are not accountable. This is a problem? Because it is a problem "We" need to do something about it, --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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No Subject
by Squirrel Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Subject: How to send bogus mail to mislead traffic analysis? Hi How can I send messages to remailer so that they will get lost? I want to generate a more or less steady flow of remailer-processed, encrypted mail. Can I send to nobody(a)some_remailer.net? What are the guidelines for that? What are the best remailers to send to? Cheers Bugged - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2i mQCNAjItXH4AAAEEAL7znlceWxOboMgS5TJykI0LvxZ+nRwaUle05LyGdbQK8Tbv cnFb945OgUMxlWb+xpwYKpZIaZRJME86aO5OvMAI8IN5AQv1zx/e1v+l/6G8QyWN kRqtIxA++WlPO0co9DbckmED7IhtMabIto9S5vH7m6UzH/ASLE/d3JIQvo5FAAUR tAZCdWdnZWSJAJUCBRAyLVzhT93ckhC+jkUBAYnsA/9WGCWZvZXRibOs6Be9roWX fgTGhDl0rZhH13D5n7O77uQfAMCYf9ALbfn9UkbnMnAGtDyecPTp9TC3Ha65TkWv ald2LoLvMD01d6iS8SkvedcgHqojfh/Q55NkJ0wtO/Ne0jOtFVQzDEtF7awwypAx HZgIoEMsSLDrTT0EwTlTjg== =mlIT - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAgUBMi1g10/d3JIQvo5FAQE70wQAsVZzVT9MrP5TuKcilJaehufve5O56B4y 0y5vaeax5fAAElZz9SxRV+meAgUNvRNTUu1afZIHYzoFUdJWoSAroLxMjSqbv1uT O95Qur+jJRLwgDoo+Kgse8DESDqlGdI2kab6KxDrSz2erkARYn9A5/JQTTI/L3I5 z1eW2fBec9c= =kDXU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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San Diego CPunk Physical meeting this Thursday
by Christian Claborne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- <<<<< NOTE! I have a new address!!! >>>>>> This Thursday!!! San Diego Area CPUNKS symposium Thursday, Sep. 5, 1996. Invitation to all Cypherpunks to join the San Diego crowd at "The Mission Cafe & Coffee Shop". We discuss cryptography and other related subjects, have the special cypherpunk dinner, and unwind after a long day at the grind stone. Don't forget to bring your public key fingerprint. If you can figure out how to get it on the back of a business card, that would be cool. If you want the suspicious crowd there to sign your key, bring two forms of ID. Hopefully Lance Cottrell will give us an update on Mixmaster and what's going on at San Diego's best ISP. You can also get the scoop on why I resigned from NCR. It wouldn't of course be because someone freaked out when I forwarded the cypherpunk e-mail titled "How to become in international Arms trafficker"... Place: The Mission Cafe & Coffee Shop 3795 Mission Bl in Mission Beach. 488-9060 Time:1800 Their Directions: 8 west to Mission Beach Ingram Exit Take west mission bay drive Go right on Mission Blvd. On the corner of San Jose and mission blvd. It is located between roller coaster and garnett. It's kind of 40s looking building... funky looking (their description, not mine) They serve stuff to eat, coffee stuff, and beer. See you there! New guy, bring your fingerprint. Drop me a note if you plan to attend... NOTE: My primary e-mail address has changed to use my own domain. You can reach me at "claborne(a)cyberthought.com". Permanently replace any other address that you may have for me. I am currently not subscribed to the CP list since my current internet connection is slow (I can't afford anything right now :) 2 -- C -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Personal Edition iQEVAgUBMi3ezYP1MBWQ+9udAQE/QAf/W/tdXCFx57p17tlXT0WbtZHPK2riMC2j 5golSBxmP5t0X6SbM0DYz9b8kq6FWrqTJ9hVKQhGHiiZVqRo6AcbYM9SlFM54x6E TFMKB6WzBp7h2DPqAeFZKuP2yGIhZaMns8fDS4EZIYHeH63DjEuhmwtM//iGe9KI txHFiQUKi0cQWGNfqeowpESfbO0HppFbsmgj9z9KTg2gFRpPpXQLP3vXJ9Dg0/IK gd5AiT+BTE2OOORS3OCmIUTC3vDI1acu/d2MNVOFuIBOkwH5y/mGf1pMndIW0++v eC+3j27wJyUbSumxM6+iVn+gu0mE7QB6YPllB9FbihkYNNfzWejyuA== =obLu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ... __o .. -\<, Claborne(a)CYBERTHOUGHT.com ...(*)/(*)._ Providing thoughts on your computing problems. http://www.CYBERTHOUGHT.com/cyberthought/ PGP Pub Key fingerprint = 7E BF 38 3F 24 A7 D1 B0 54 44 96 AA 10 D0 5D 51 Avail on Pub Key server. PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! Dreams. They are just a "screen saver" for the brain.

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SG Spy Ring
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Financial Times, September 4, 1996, p. 4. Singapore looks to superhighway By James Kynge in Kuala Lumpur Singapore took another step toward its vision of becoming an "intelligent island" yesterday, announcing an initiative to link the city-state's main on-line networks. Mr Goh Chee Wee, Singapore's minister of state for communications, said the "internetwork hub" would link service providers of the Internet, government on-line networks, commercial networks and some others. Singapore's move follows an ambitious scheme announced by neighbour Malaysia last month to launch an "information superhighway" designed to attract the world's leading information technology companies to Kuala Lumpur. The perceived advantage in Singapore's initiative is that users will be able to access all networks using a single leased line, rather than the separate lines currently necessary. The hub will use a single set of national standards, meaning inter-operability between networks becomes easier. Mr Goh said the hub should be up and running by the end of the year. A mechanism to identify users electronically would be incorporated into the hub network next year, paving the way for secure operations such as payments, banking and confidential correspondence. The move is part of the Information Technology 2000 masterplan, a scheme which aims to accomplish the sometimes conflicting aims of exploiting the information superhighway to its full potential while continuing to insulate Singaporeans from undesired influences. From September 15, the city-state will implement its first big attempt to police cyberspace. From then all Internet providers must channel more than 120,000 subscribers on the island through "proxy servers" before they reach the net. These servers will check every Internet site a subscriber requests and block access to a about a dozen banned sites known to display pornography. The government has warned against material deemed politically subversive or inciting religious disharmony. [End]

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Re: What is the EFF doing exactly?
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: >so in a very real sense, anonymity in >the phone system was considered a "problem" by some that has been >"solved" or "modified" by some recent advancements. (yes, most people >agree caller ID is an advancement). Yes, and that is why some companies (e.g., Private Lines) offer anonymous out-bound calling services. > >I think cpunks should hold the view that communication is a matter >of mutual consent between sender and receiver. if a receiver says, >"I don't want any anonymous messages", then should be able to block them. >this is essentially what is happening with the remailers *right*now*, >if you ask any remailer operator. people ask not to receive anonymous >mail, and are put on the blocking lists. imho only the extremists are arguing, >and have always argued, that they should have some ability to put >an anonymous message in front of someone else against their will. > >this basic rule becomes more murky when you look at public forums, >because you can't really say whether given individuals reading them want to >hear something anonymous or not. by designing the forum beforehand >to force the situation, you solve this problem. > I find most unwanted communications objectionable, anonymous or not. How about billboards. Should the fact that I choose to be outside or on a roadway make my eye a target for ads? (If so, then why not consider having an e-mail account in a similar vein?) The fact that I can immediately, or later, identify the responsible party doesn't keep me from initially seeing the ad and taking my time. If I object, what are my alternatives? The last thing I want is monetary compensation. I want my time back. Failing this, I want the abusers time (sorta' like in Zardoz). >I do believe that in the future there will be all types of forums: those in >which identity is required, those in which it is optional, and those in >which it is always cloaked. this is eminently reasonable imho. >those who argue against one of the >above's existence (such as saying it involves a ghettoization >of anonymity, that there should always be an ability to be anonymous >in any communication setting) are extremists imho. "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." --George Bernard Shaw PGP Fingerprint: FE 90 1A 95 9D EA 8D 61 81 2E CC A9 A4 4A FB A9 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Schear, N7ZEZ | Internet: azur(a)netcom.com Grinder | Voice: 1-702-655-2877 Sacred Cow Meat Co. | Fax: 1-702-658-2673 7075 W. Gowan Road, #2148 | Las Vegas, NV 89129 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: flimflamery on anonymity
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: >(last line is sarcasm for the sarcasm impaired) >a cpunk position I have seen repeated often. it goes along a very >simplistic line of reasoning that I have seen TCM evoke repeatedly. >it rather annoys me. it goes like this: > >cyberspace is merely discussion between people. anonymity should >be allowed anywhere there are discussions (its a free speech issue). >therefore it should be possible everywhere in cyberspace. > >this idea lacks a lot of subtlety in thought and to my mind is >tremendously simplistic. [snip] > >cpunks will also argue that anonymity can suffice for any >business transaction. that may be so, but what about a business >that simply says, "we choose to require identity among our >customers, and you can go elsewhere if you disagree". These attitudes create business opportunities for others who would seek to serve those who prefer anonymity. [snip] > >cyberspace as a whole is *not* going to lead to a totlal motion >away from physical identity. in some ways physical identity will >be more strictly enforced in cyberspace, in "some regions". >there will be other regions of cyberspace in which "anything goes". > As long as attractive, anonymous, alternatives sufficient for those (of a 'cyherpunk' mind) seeking to communicate, transact commerce, etc. exist it won't matter to whether others choose to enforce stricter identity adherence. [snip] >of course in the cpunk mailing list, who cares if there are >anonymous/pseudonymous participants? [snip]... but far more is at stake >in the "real world" and the risks posed by anonymity will be >adequately diluted because of this. and it won't be by people >who are all "f***ing statists"-- it will be by reasonable people >such as those who head EFF, who are interested in a civilized >society. > As always the market and the street will decide. PGP Fingerprint: FE 90 1A 95 9D EA 8D 61 81 2E CC A9 A4 4A FB A9 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Schear, N7ZEZ | Internet: azur(a)netcom.com Grinder | Voice: 1-702-655-2877 Sacred Cow Meat Co. | Fax: 1-702-658-2673 7075 W. Gowan Road, #2148 | Las Vegas, NV 89129 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: desubscribe
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> desubscribe I`m sorry I can`t allow that Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Http://www.fatmans.demon.co.uk/crypt/ "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey" -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAjH9j+cAAAEEAMBvREiQR0ot9dFCO0TiSCSunAYLv2g1Bc6I3bz8FzKXNH53 6mieJf/W4rD+CxJpT0q9RQaaoRtkHJLwbjfK2il3D7mEahMAyqvF/xRJNqkXfhM3 sRJM0Jh43l+W0M5vwokbEbk25/bxWWGspTsLD3YHbzKnG6pOcL5OPIRbv66xAAUR tCdQYXVsIEJyYWRsZXkgPHBhdWxAZmF0bWFucy5kZW1vbi5jby51az4= =riHc -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Re: Letter to the Observer [re: Internet paedophile]
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 4 Sep 96 at 5:41, Martin Minow wrote: > Forwarded to me by a friend: > The following letters were delivered to the Editor of the Observer > last week as a request to publish a retraction of their article > relating to the Internet that appeared on Sunday 25th. August. One way to limit or retaliate against diffamation would be to refuse internet access to anybody known to be part of any such medias, being tv or paper. ISPs would probably easily agree since the revenues coming from journalists vs from the general population is probably minuscule. Of course, the conventionnal media would set up their own ISP but they could be identified. Does that makes sense or am I out to lunch? jfa Jean-Francois Avon DePompadour, Societe d'Importation Ltee; Limoges porcelain, silverware and crystal JFA Technologies, R&D consultants: physicists, technologists and engineers. PGP keys at: http://w3.citenet.net/users/jf_avon ID# C58ADD0D : 529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891

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Re: What is the EFF doing exactly?
by Jon Lebkowsky 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:02 PM 9/3/96 -0700, James A. Donald wrote: >At 03:17 PM 9/3/96 -0700, Jon Lebkowsky wrote: >>>> Not necessarily. The character of the anonymous speech is decisive. If you >>>> use anonymity to cloak harassment, for instance, the anonymity (which >>>> removes accountability) is a problem. The accountability issue is real and >>>> should be addressed, not evaded. > >At 07:44 AM 9/3/96 -0700, James A. Donald wrote: >>>No: The harassment is the problem, not the anonymity that makes it >>>possible. > >At 06:52 AM 9/4/96 -0500, Jon Lebkowsky wrote: >>The harassment is one problem, the lack of accountability another. > >So: > >Lucky Green and Dark Unicorn are not accountable. This is a problem? > >Because it is a problem "We" need to do something about it, Looks like you didn't quite finish yer msg...what is it that "We" need to do about it? -- Jon Lebkowsky http://www.well.com/~jonl jonl(a)hotwired.com

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Intelligence Community Briefing
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

My security clearence has long since expired. Anyone on the list plan to attend and report back :-) ------------------------------------ AFCEA The U.S. Intelligence Community: Who Does What, With What, For What? October 8, 9, 10, 1996 #### This course is Classified SECRET. ### Sponsored by The Community Management Staff. Location: AFCEA International Headquarters, Fairfax, Virginia The U.S. Intelligence Community continues to undergo substantial changes. This top-down course provides an up-to-date understanding of the structure and functions of the Intelligence Community and its components, the changing threats and challenges with which they must deal, as well as resources and processes used. The course addresses intelligence programs structure and provides insight into relations between intelligence producers and policy consumers, as well as useful information about the interaction between U.S. Intelligence and industry. WHO SHOULD ATTEND This course is suitable for industry managers, designers and producers of security and intelligence systems and products, including software and special purpose products. The up-to-date coverage of the changing intelligence community is equally suitable for intelligence officers and operatives proficient in their own services or specialties who have or expect to have responsibilities involving other agencies and services, overview functions or supervision of interfaces between various agency efforts. Past attendance has been divided about equally between persons from the government and from industry. COURSE OUTLINE: Intelligence, Practice and Issues Background of U.S. Intelligence Definitions of Intelligence Intelligence Process Relationships between Intelligence and Policy Systems Intelligence Issues Components and Coordination of the Intelligence Community Organization and Components of the U.S. Intelligence Community The Role of the DCI DCI Special Staffs and Multi-Agency Activity Centers The Community Management Executive Director and Staff The National Intelligence Council Intelligence Oversight and Management within the Executive Branch Civilian Intelligence Organizations Military Intelligence Components Coordination of Counterintelligence Intelligence Budget Structure NFIP TIARA JMIP The Central Intelligence Agency Structure and Functions of the Changing CIA Intelligence Collection, Analysis and Dissemination CIA Support to Military Intelligence Operations Military Intelligence OASDC3I Organization and Functions Structure and Functions of the Defense Intelligence Agency Support for OSD, JCS, and Operational Commands Military Services: Organization, Roles and Missions Impact and Trends Resulting from Changing World Situation and Operational Experiences Overhead Reconnaissance and Surveillance National Reconnaissance Office Defense Airborne Reconnaissance The National Security Agency and Central Security Service Role in the Community Specific Functions Services of Common Concern Federal Bureau of Investigation FBI Organization and Functions Law Enforcement Intelligence Functions Counter-Intelligence Relationships with CIA and Other Components of the Intelligence Community Counternarcotics Intelligence and the Drug Enforcement Administration The Problem The Counternarcotics Community DCI Counternarcotics Center Operational Counternarcotics Intelligence Activities Imagery The Central Imagery Office Relationships with Other Parts of the Intelligence Community Support to Operational Commands Intelligence Support for Arms Control and Disarmament Arms Control Intelligence Staff Non-Proliferation Center On-Site Inspections Nuclear Intelligence and Role of Department of Energy Intelligence Community and the Congress Functions of the Oversight Committees Legislation Affecting the Intelligence Community Trends Intelligence and Industry Relationship Between Intelligence Components and the Private Sector Opportunities to Market Services and Products Control Mechanisms Business Strategies Intelligence Developments in Private Industry Internal Intelligence System Risk Analysis Course Coordinator COL John D. Sitterson, USA (Ret.), is now a consultant to AFCEA and industry. His military career included assignments in intelligence and international security affairs, as well as combat and commands with extensive C3I involvement. He headed the Department of National and International Security Studies at the Army War College. Colonel Sitterson served on a White House Task Force, in operations coordinating elements under NSA, on a Presidential-Congressional Commission, and as a military member of two blue ribbon study groups at the Council on Foreign Relations. As a civilian he served 20 years in defense-related government and industry positions, including 11 years with HRB-Singer (now HRB Systems). Lecturers: Mr. Peter C. Oleson has had extensive experience in intelligence related positions in the U.S. government and industry, including the Office of the Secretary of Defense. He has been adjunct professor of Resource Management at the Defense Intelligence College. He now heads his own consulting firm. Other lecturers will be authoritative representatives of the Central Intelligence Agency; Community Management Staff; the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense (C3I); Defense Intelligence Agency; National Security Agency; Intelligence Services of the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps; the National Reconnaissance Office; the Defense Airborne Reconnaissance Office; the Central Imagery Office; Department of State (INR); Department of Energy; Federal Bureau of Investigation; Drug Enforcement Administration; Arms Control Intelligence Staff; Non-Proliferation Center and the House of Representatives Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Register by submitting the following information to: AFCEA 4400 Fair Lakes Court Fairfax, Virginia 22033-3899 Phone: (703) 631-6135 FAX (703) 631 4693 email = aafceapdc(a)aol.com until 1 October and then pdc(a)afcea.org Course Name or Number: Intelligence Course/ 203N Date Course Convenes: 8 October 1996 STUDENT: Rank/Honorific: Service: First Name: MI: Last Name: Title/Position: Company/Organization: Division: Mail Stop/ Suite/ Office Symbol: Street Address: City: State: ZIP: Country Telephone: (area code) Fax: (area code) Please indicate method of payment intended: Mastercard/Visa/AMEX/Diners Club/ DD1556/Voucher All registrations will be acknowledged. The acknowledgement letter will contain information on location of the course, housing and transportation details. Fees: Government Personnel $700 Industry $950 ### A Classified Visit Request must be submitted by mail or fax before the student is permitted to attend the course. This request should be received at AFCEA at least the week before the class convenes. ------------------------- PGP Fingerprint: FE 90 1A 95 9D EA 8D 61 81 2E CC A9 A4 4A FB A9 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Schear, N7ZEZ | Internet: azur(a)netcom.com Grinder | Voice: 1-702-655-2877 Sacred Cow Meat Co. | Fax: 1-702-658-2673 7075 W. Gowan Road, #2148 | Las Vegas, NV 89129 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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