December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Penet Bites the Dust
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:13 PM 8/30/96 -0700, Mike Duvos wrote: > An interesting Net tidbit. Note that the "International Conference > on Child Sexual Exploitation" in Stolkholm which served as a platform > for these accusations and various coordinated stories in numerous > media outlets is simply a circus put on by ECPAT, a well-known > pressure group whose propaganda is modeled after the now-defunct > National Coalition on Pornography, and whose spurious and laughable > claims about child pornography and vast pedophile conspiracies would fill > volumes. The only odd thing here is that the mainstream press is > presenting this gathering with a perfectly straight face, as if it were > some sort of credible event, which of course it is not. Nothing odd about it. Everytime a new medium appears, the old media run to the politicians to have it controlled and regulated to death. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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RE: Desubscribe
by Johnny Eriksson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Whoever uses the term "spam" in a non-derogratory manor is an > arsehole and deserves to be shipped to sweden where they shall be > made into cheese by nuns. No thanks, we do not want them. --Johnny "A government that fears its citizens -- should"

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Re: FLT 800: From the Rumor Mill...But It Makes Sense.. (fwd)
by Alan Horowitz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 21:29:56 -0400 From: Ralph Jennett <jennett(a)citicom.com> To: Alan Horowitz <alanh(a)widomaker.com> Subject: Re: FLT 800: From the Rumor Mill...But It Makes Sense.. The problem is, from my experience at Roosevelt Roads, the Navy never conducts live fire exercises without declaring the area of operation strictly off limits to non-military aircraft. Also, the 747 would have shown up WITH ITS TRANSPONDER DATA on the screens on an Aegis ship, so why would they fire? And, I didn't think that a P3 pilot would fly around in controlled air space with his transponder shut off, especially when he might become a target himself (or just a victum of a mid air collision) if he isn't squawking. I suppose the story that you sent could be true, but if it is, I'm surprised that nothing like that ever happened before, given the sloppy procedures being followed. The latest RELEASED data makes it sound like a bomb in the cabin (row 24, right side) is responsible. I'm not sure that I don't believe that, although I am quite suspicious of anything coming out of the justice department under the current President and Attorney General.

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Re: PGP Comments Considered Occasionally Harmful Re: Pronto making a comment
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 31 Aug 1996 01:44:15 -0700, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: >>> How did you get Pronto to do a comment? >>I added a "comment=" in my config.txt ;) ... the old fashionned way. >... >>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>Version: 2.6.3i >>Charset: ascii >>Comment: http://www.cyberbeach.net/~mbabcock/PGP/ > >Note that the comment makes traffic analysis much easier. >Sure, you can send your mail through five different remailers, >but if each layer of PGP has your home page URL or some other >distinctive Comment:, it's traceable. OTOH, a signature has your distinctive key-id anyway. - "'Anonymity is bad,' says a source who wishes to remain anonymous." - Nuff' said. * Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp * Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" * Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 * Member in good standing of the GNU whirled hors d'oeuvre

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Re: WARNING vIRuS!
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 31 Aug 1996 11:21:05 -0500, kickboxer wrote: > There is a new and VERY dangerous virus called the HAZ-MAT virus! >it fucks up the sectors on your hd, and really messes up the partition >tables. It does this once a week, picking a random time to do it. 99.9% of >virus scanners and other antivirus programs will not recognize it, for it is >a totally new strain, using a never before seen code.... Be warned! The >HAZ-MAT virus usually resides in JPG, and GIF files... once the files are >viewed, the virus takes effect. >scan all images upon download! As soon as you said that, it's obvious it's a hoax. The first law of computer viruses: You have to run a program to get one. JPG and GIF files are *never* executed. There is no possible way for you to get a virus from one. - "'Anonymity is bad,' says a source who wishes to remain anonymous." - Nuff' said. * Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp * Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" * Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 * Member in good standing of the GNU whirled hors d'oeuvre

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Esther Dyson on Remailers
by P. J. Ponder 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

pretty grim reading in the LA Times article if that is really the EFF position on remailers. could someone straighten this out, or at least give us the EFF's view of why remailers are a bad thing? with friends like that, who needs enemies? --------------- So long, Julf - Thank you for a valuable public service! Best of luck to you! -- to unsubscribe, mail to majordomo(a)toad.com a message that reads: unsubscribe cypherpunks (in the message body, not subject line).

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Re: (null)
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 31 Aug 1996 18:54:29 EDT, patrick b cummings wrote: >I am planning to make a list of hacker's of america and would appreciate >it for your help. please send me your > handle 3VIL HACK3R > e-mail address hacker(a)stupid.troll.com > city, state > (optional) your mailing address <G> Paranoia lives deep. I wouldn't count on many addresses from real hackers. > and url http://www.stupid.troll.com/HACK3RZ/k00d_d00d.html > whether or not you would like to recieve hackers list No. > type of hacking you do Dismembering people who post off topic? <g> >Thank You for your cooperation - "'Anonymity is bad,' says a source who wishes to remain anonymous." - Nuff' said. * Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp * Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" * Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 * Member in good standing of the GNU whirled hors d'oeuvre

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Re: Sen. Leahy's "impeccable cyberspace credentials"
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 31 Aug 1996 18:11:52 EDT, patrick b cummings wrote: >I agree with what you are saying but not all polititions are that bad. >You make it sound as if their are no politisions are for freedom of the >net. For the most part there aren't. Why? Well the media has sensationalized it. How many politicians want to go on record as "protecting the rights of child-pornographers"? Now, this isn't a major portion of Internet usage, but you'd never know that from what you read in the paper. If you only listened to them, it'd be something like this: 40% kiddie-porn 20% terrorists, bomb instructions, etc. 15% "evil hackers" who are going to steal our money, shut off our power, etc. 10% hate groups 10% pornography 03% right-wing gun nuts 02% other (research, entertainment, etc) - "'Anonymity is bad,' says a source who wishes to remain anonymous." - Nuff' said. * Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp * Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" * Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 * Member in good standing of the GNU whirled hors d'oeuvre

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Re: Los Angeles Times article on Helsingius and anon.penet.fi
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 31 Aug 1996 14:54:37 -0700, Lance Cottrell wrote: >>Note Esther Dyson's comments: >> "The damage that can be done by anonymity is far bigger" than in >> any other medium, said Esther Dyson, chairwoman of the Electronic >> Frontier Foundation. "In the end, you need to be able to get at >> somebody's identity to enforce accountability, and the question is how >> do you also enforce freedom of speech and freedom from prosecution for >> unpopular opinions." <SNIP> >Is this the official EFF position on remailers? This strong anti-remailer >position needs to be retracted or widely publicized. I doubt they'd publicize it; it'd probably cost them a *lot* of supporters. - "'Anonymity is bad,' says a source who wishes to remain anonymous." - Nuff' said. * Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp * Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" * Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 * Member in good standing of the GNU whirled hors d'oeuvre

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Re: WARNING vIRuS!
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:21 AM 8/31/96 -0500, kickboxer ingnoring the "clueserver refused by host" messages wrote: > There is a new and VERY dangerous virus called the HAZ-MAT virus! >it fucks up the sectors on your hd, and really messes up the partition >tables. It does this once a week, picking a random time to do it. 99.9% of >virus scanners and other antivirus programs will not recognize it, for it is >a totally new strain, using a never before seen code.... Be warned! The >HAZ-MAT virus usually resides in JPG, and GIF files... once the files are >viewed, the virus takes effect. >scan all images upon download! This is the clueless kind of crap I expect pitched to AOL users and upper level management. GIF and JPEGs contain *NO* executable code. You cannot get viruses from them. You obviously have no clue as to what the hell you are talking about. The only way that you could obtain the effects described above is with Black Magic and/or Voodoo. (And not even then.) I remember a similar hoax going around about 3-4 years ago about viruses in image files. I guess nothing on the net is ever forgotten entirely. Especially the urban legends and bullshit. --- | "Remember: You can't have BSDM without BSD." - alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ | alano(a)teleport.com |

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