December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: "privatizing" phones?
by Geoffrey C. Grabow 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:26 07/28/96 +0200, Remo Pini wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Date: Sun Jul 28 12:24:57 1996 >> Even if they did change the frequency the call was on, >> it would be a simple matter to decode how the frequency >> change was negotiated, and "follow" the call (also easily >> accomplished with cellular calls). Failing that, there is >> a very limited range of frequencies allocated for cordless >> fones, and simply re-scanning for the conversation is a >> trivial inconvenience. //cerridwyn// >> > >Most of those systems do also change the order of the transmitted data, and >that's not limited to a few possibilities. If it's digital, they usually >encrypt it (only weak, but hey, you normally have to find the key real >time!) >> The key doesn't need to be found in real time! You can always record the call and decrypt it later. If the information deals with an event in the future, you could have plenty of time to crack it. G.C.G.

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(Don't laugh *too* hard now...) "Filter"software for moneylaundering
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Encoding: 17 TEXT Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:06:53 +-200 Reply-To: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> From: Andrzej Adamski <aadamski(a)CC.UNI.TORUN.PL> Subject: "Filter"software for money laundering Comments: cc: "comcri-l(a)man.torun.pl" <comcri-l(a)man.torun.pl>, "lacc(a)suburbia.net" <lacc(a)suburbia.net> To: Multiple recipients of list CYBERIA-L <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Sorry for cross-posting this message: Dear All, Are you familiar with any software or any listing of producers of software to be used in tracking money-laundering? If so, let me know. Regards, Andrzej Adamski Chair of Criminal Law & Criminal Policy Nicolas Copernicus Univwersity 87-100 Torun, Poland aadamski(a)cc.uni.torun.pl --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "'Bart Bucks' are not legal tender." -- Punishment, 100 times on a chalkboard, for Bart Simpson The e$ Home Page: http://www.vmeng.com/rah/

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RE: Implementing DSS Fortezza KEA
by geeman＠best.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- From: source@iaccess.za[SMTP:source@iaccess.za] Sent: Monday, July 29, 1996 7:05 AM To: coderpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Implementing DSS Fortezza KEA We have almost completed our SSL 3.0 implementation, and are looking for the specs on Fortezza DSS and KEA and would like to know where it is available. >From the US National Security Agency. As another respondee said, the details of KEA are not available, but information on implementation of the protocol is. It's in the public domain.

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call your rep
by L Jean Camp 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>the Senate commerce committee held its final >>hearing on Burns's bill yesterday with the appearance >>of FBI Director Freeh and Bill Reinsch at Dept of Commerce. >>The Senate committee would like to hold a mark-up on >>the bill (Pro-CODE) next week, but lack the certain votes of the members >>of the committee to do so. >> >>Expressions of support for S. 1726 to critical Democrats >>and Republicans are needed--especially: >> Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, 224-5344; Bill Frist, R-Tennessee >>224-3344; Spencer Abraham, R-Michigan 224-4822; Ernest >>Hollings, D-South Carolina, 224-6121; Daniel Inouye D-Hawaii >>224-3934; Wendell Ford D-Kentucky 224-4343; James Exon, >>D-Nebraska 224-4224; Jay Rockefeller D-West Virginia 224-6472; >>John Kerry D-Massachusetts 224-2742; John Breaux D-Louisiana >>224-4623; Richard Bryan D-Nevada 224-6244; Byron Dorgan >>D-North Darkota 224-2551. >> >>Calls are needed by Tuesday in order to schedule the mark-up. >>

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Re: Digital Watermarks for copy protection in recent Billbo
by Alex F 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Jim Choate <ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com> writes: > You want a continuous Fourier transform, not a discrete one, to > determine the frequency spectrum of the waveform being sampled. > The FFT is simply an algorithm for computing the DFT without > redundant computation. In general, any Lebesgue integrable > complex function will have a Fourier transform, even one with a > finite number of discontinuities. The reverse transform will > faithfully reproduce the function, modulo the usual caveats about > function spaces and sets of measure zero. > Well of course! My thoughts exactly. Great minds think alike. Now, would you mind doing a little translation (for the laymen), since I didn't understand? I appreciate it, Alex F =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Alex F alexf(a)iss.net Marketing Specialist Internet Security Systems =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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Re: Publicly Verifiable Anonymous Voting System
by Arun Mehta 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:53 27/07/96 -0700, JonWienk(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: >Here is the how the voting system works. > >1. All voting information (public keys, ballots, ballot signatures, etc.) is >publicly available via a Web site or other similar means, and can be downloaded ... One problem with such a system is sheer complexity. Even an illiterate person must be convinced of the transparency of the system, i.e. that his/her vote "counts". In the conventional system, where you mark a piece of paper that goes into a locked box watched over by reps of the rival parties, which you can subsequently view being opened and processed, you intuitively understand how the system works. This was one of our arguments (not, admittedly, our strongest) against electronic voting when they sought to introduce it in 1989 for the Indian federal elections -- further details on http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta/evmsunob.htm Arun Mehta Phone +91-11-6841172, 6849103 amehta(a)cpsr.org http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta/ finger amehta(a)cerfnet.com for public key

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Re: your favorite poison recipes
by Vinnie Moscaritolo 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous writes: >Please post your favorite poison recipes to this mlist. I'd have to say Federal Match in.308, Lead poisoning -- Long distance. martian Minow writes: > >Rare roast beef, baked potato with plenty of butter, red wine. > Martin; last time I checked you were a trickle down vegaterian too. Vinnie Moscaritolo ------------------ "friends come and friends go..but enemies accumulate." http://www.vmeng.com/vinnie/ Fingerprint: 4FA3298150E404F2782501876EA2146A Expanded Recipient List:

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Re: A Libertine Question
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:21 PM 7/29/96, Charley Sparks wrote: >My opinions are just that, MINE but here's a question .. > >In the event that drugs are legalized like alcohol ( also a drug >) and tobacco and cafeine, who will take responsibility for >housing and feeding those, who are now blameless, individuals >who can't or won't take responsibility for themselves and work >or whatever. With freedom and liberty come a lot of >responsibility. Too many people today balme every damn thing in >the world for their problems - and get away with it.... "No one." Who takes responsibility when people fail to save enough of their paycheck to last them through the month? Who takes responsibility when people drink too much, miss work, and are fired? And so on. Drugs are no different from ethanol. We tried outlawing ethanol, and eventually came to our senses. Many of us--on all sides of the ideological spectrum--think the same is inevitable with other drugs. The issue of "who takes care of" people who can't hold their liquor, or who overeat, or who smoke too much, does not enter into the equation. (Though there are pathological examples of cases where insurance companies are trying to sue tobacco companies for the costs incurred because of smoking by policyholders. A bad, and, I think, dreadfully abusive, use of the court system.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: e$: The Demographic "Transaction" (was Re: Schelling Points...)
by Bart Croughs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At monday 29 july, Arun Mehta wrote: >As I see it, having more children makes sound economic sense when >you have child labor. You feed the child for 4-5 years, after >which it contributes financially to the family for the rest of >its short life. More stringent enforcement of anti child-labor >legislation would help. Increase in life expectancy is also good, >because then you need fewer children as insurance. The only effect of more stringent enforcement of anti child-labor legislation is to harm the children involved. You may think that the millions of families in Third World countries who are too poor to provide for their children, will be magically become rich enough to send their children to school once the anti child-labor legislation will be enforced. This is not the case. When the factories don't want the children anymore because of the government regulations, the children will simply be working in other places - at home, in the streets. And this is work that pays less. Child labour in the West didn't stop because of anti child-labour laws; it stopped the moment the people became rich enough to provide for their children, thanks to the capitalist revolution in the 18th & 19th century. The same path will have to be followed by the Third World countries today. >The spread of the Internet, and the ability to post anonymously >should help in exposing instances of violation of child-labor >laws, and increasing outrage. Hopefully, it will also make it >easier to spread literacy, which is arguably the best way to keep >population down. Instead of posting to the net to increase outrage about the violations of harmful child labour laws, you better begin posting to the net to increase outrage about the socialist governments in the Third World that keep their populations in poverty. I suggest you read the books of C. Nardanelli: 'Child labour and the industrial revolution' , and F. Hayek (ed): 'Capitalism and the historians'. Bart bart.croughs(a)tip.nl

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Re: Usenet Conference on Security
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 8:34 PM 7/26/96 -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >As an aside, the stuff Datafellows is selling is, I believe, a >commercial version of SSH, which is very good stuff. Its a full >replacement for the whole berkeley "r" utilities using strong crypto >(public key and conventional) for authentication and privacy. Does >rlogin, rsh, redirects X sessions, slices and dices, etc. Really >spiffy. In addition to SSH, I also picked up a flyer for "F-Secure Desktop", a disk encryption package for Windows. Sorry I didn't pick up their "what we sell" flyer. You should be able to get that information from http://www.datafellows.com or f-Secure-sales(a)datafellows.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Cave ab homine unius lebri | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | [Beware the man of one | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | book] - Anonymous Latin | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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