December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: National Socio-Economic Security Need for Encryption Technology
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: Bart Croughs > >You are wrong. I'm not in error; I don't think the US is worse off when US > capital moves abroad. I just want to know how you can proof it, so I would >be > able to rebut protectionist arguments. I don't know how to prove it. And, >unfortunately, neither do you. Rhetoric is no proof. ............................................... I said in my post: > "I think people who put up a lot of objections [...] do not want any proof of their error." Are you the one putting up the objections? Are you the one who does not want to see the proof which you are asking for? I would think that after having read Mises, Hayek, et al, the economic cause&effect principles which they outlined would make the resulting situation pretty clear. .. Blanc > > >

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Verisign CA practices documents
by Paul Robichaux 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Verisign's put their Certification Practice Statement up at <http://www.verisign.com/repository/CPSNEW>. This document appears to set forth the policies Verisign's implementing when it acts as a CA. I haven't fully reviewed it yet, but my hat's off to Verisign for coming clean and clearly stating their policies. -Paul -- Paul Robichaux LJL Enterprises, Inc. paul(a)ljl.com Be a cryptography user. Ask me how.

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Re: photographed license plates
by koontz＠netapp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I note those plastic cover for plates "to keep them clean" >seem to be more & more popular. These are not allowed in California (although the chance of getting popped must be quite slim, by the number you see). I remember seeing some water based spray paints in dun colors (such as a nice mud tan) - Gee, officer, its just mud, <wipe>. (Why water colors should be in spray cans is beyond me, unless intended for taggers).

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Re: Schlafly on crypto
by Chris Adams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 14 Aug 96 09:11:30 -0800, bdolan(a)use.usit.net wrote: > Amendment guarantees our right to speak in public but not in > private. It would be just as ridiculous to say that we have > freedom to speak in words that the government can understand, but > not in words the government can't decipher. This definitely does beg the question of what the FBI would ask us to do if, for instance, the drug dealers started hiring Navajo speakers to play "Code-talkers" over a GAKed phone... | Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> - Webpages for sale! Se habla JavaScript! | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp | Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY"

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Capital and Taxes
by Greg Hopper 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

When you consider that capital gains tax rate schedules are not indexed for inflation, the situation's even worse than Tim's analysis implies. Since you pay tax on the nominal rather than the real capital gain, the effective capital gains tax rate is really higher than the quoted rate. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Hopper |Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are Research Department |my own and not necessarily those of Federal Reserve Bank |the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia of Philadelphia |or the Federal Reserve System. 10 Independence Mall | Philadelphia, PA 19106 | (215) 574-3905 (voice) | (215) 574-4364 (fax) | email: ghopper(a)frbphil.org |

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(no subject)
by Vincent L. Diaz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

subcribe cypherpunks(a)toad.com vldiaz(a)adnc.com end -- Regards, VINCENT L. DIAZ U-SAVE COMMUNICATIONS Business Line: 619-277-2411 Fax Line: 619-277-0298 http://www.cognigen.com/agencies/ Title: www-buyinfo mail archive: (cpx) Cypherpunk recruiting opportunity (cpx) Cypherpunk recruiting opportunity Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:47:43 -0500 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Robert Hettinga: "Re: (cpx) Re: ecash remailer" Previous message: Robert Hettinga: "(cpx) Re: ecash remailer" --- begin forwarded text Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 17:44:03 -0500 (EST) From: cjl <cjl(a)welchlink.welch.jhu.edu> To: Cypherpunks mailing list <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> Subject: Cypherpunk recruiting opportunity Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com Precedence: bulk C-punx, Considering the amount of "preaching to the choir" that goes on here I thought that the following news item might supply a more suitable outlet for some of the more evangelical-minded Cypherpunks. After all, it is perfectly clear that the science of cryptography exemplifies some of the more exciting applications of otherwise-dry mathematics, and there is always a need for "voices of reason" in the councils of those who would make the 'Net safe for children. ___________________ Tech Help for Schools While high-tech education visionaries are issuing apocalyptic warnings about the fate of the alledgedly backward US school system, a privately sponsored group has launched a Peace Corps-style initiative to ease schools into the 21st century. The Massachusetts-based Tech Corps, which recruits volunteers to help schools harness computers and telecommunications technology, announced last month that it is going national. The corps, whose chief sponsor is the Cellular Telecommunications Industry Association, will hold a conference in Washington DC on 30 October where people can learn how to start state chapters. Founded by Gary J. Beach, chief executive officer of Computerworld Inc., the corps last year recruited 300 volunteers theough the magazine Computerworld who have been working in 12 school districts throughout Masachusetts. Karen Smith, Tech Corps' national director, says the response to the call for volunteers from people in industry, government agencies, and private consulting firms, has been "incredible." They help school districts in any way they are asked - such as by installing wiring, training teachers, persuading local industry to donate hardware, and helping schools construct World Wide Web homepages. Interested parties can reach Tech Corp' own web page at: http://www.ustc.org C. J. Leonard ( / "DNA is groovy" \ / - Watson & Crick <cjl(a)welchlink.welch.jhu.edu> / \ <-- major groove ( \ Finger for public key \ ) Strong-arm for secret key / <-- minor groove Thumb-screws for pass-phrase / ) --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Shipwright Development Corporation, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA (617) 323-7923 "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell >>>>Phree Phil: Email: zldf(a)clark.net http://www.netresponse.com/zldf <<<<< Next message: Robert Hettinga: "Re: (cpx) Re: ecash remailer" Previous message: Robert Hettinga: "(cpx) Re: ecash remailer"

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Re: non-secure network utilities - pointers?
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:27 AM 8/14/96 -0400, Perry wrote: > >Sam Quigley writes: >> What cypherpunk-approved (tm) -- that is, cryptographically strong, >> freely available, and well-implemented (reliable) -- network utilities are >> available? I'm willing to agree to US-only license agreement iff I have >> to... > > >Try SSH and friends -- they are a pretty good thing. > >http://www.ssh.fi/, I believe. That is for the commercial version. The free version (for Unix) can be found at http://www.cs.hut.fi/ssh/ . There is also a Windows version in beta, as well as one for OS/2. (There is a Mac version in development, but no pointers on when or where it will be available.) --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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Re: Why should we trust the system?
by an681132＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Preiously, jim bell <jimbell(a)pacifier.com> > <snip> However, hours after it was publicly revealed that the Atlanta > 911 center screwed up, wasting 10 minutes looking up the address of > "Centennial park," <snip> After watching the news during the coverage of the 911 call, I couldn't help but notice the free computer advertisement. I don't suppose that GATEWAY 2000 will be doing too much bragging about supplying systems to the Atlanta 911 call center. Gosh, I wonder what systems my local 911 call center uses? Would they be able to find my address? --****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--***ATTENTION*** Your e-mail reply to this message WILL be *automatically* ANONYMIZED. Please, report inappropriate use to abuse(a)anon.penet.fi For information (incl. non-anon reply) write to help(a)anon.penet.fi If you have any problems, address them to admin(a)anon.penet.fi

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No subject
by an681132＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Preiously, jim bell <jimbell(a)pacifier.com> > <snip> However, hours after it was publicly revealed that the Atlanta > 911 center screwed up, wasting 10 minutes looking up the address of > "Centennial park," <snip> After watching the news during the coverage of the 911 call, I couldn't help but notice the free computer advertisement. I don't suppose that GATEWAY 2000 will be doing too much bragging about supplying systems to the Atlanta 911 call center. Gosh, I wonder what systems my local 911 call center uses? Would they be able to find my address? --****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--***ATTENTION*** Your e-mail reply to this message WILL be *automatically* ANONYMIZED. Please, report inappropriate use to abuse(a)anon.penet.fi For information (incl. non-anon reply) write to help(a)anon.penet.fi If you have any problems, address them to admin(a)anon.penet.fi

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SSL / Java(tm) Toolkit Available NOW (fwd)
by Adam Shostack 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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