December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

EFFector Online 09.09: Mo
by pjn＠nworks.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In> "The Singapore government isn't interested in controlling information, In> but wants a gradual phase-in of services to protect ourselves. It's In> not to control, but to protect the citizens of Singapore. In our In> society, you can state your views, but they have to be correct." In> - Ernie Hai, coordinator of the Singapore Government Internet This was in the latest Effector Online... P.J. pjn(a)nworks.com ... Answers: $1, Short: $5, Correct: $25, dumb looks are still free. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]

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Re: Distributed DES crack
by pjn＠nworks.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In> Has anyone thought of asking RSA, etc, for help? If DES falls (so to In> speak) it yould make thare product more desirable. Hmmm... Damn good idea. P.J. pjn(a)nworks.com ... Captian's log, stardate 25970-point-5. I am nailed to the hull. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]

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One of the biggest proble
by pjn＠nworks.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In> What our biggest problem is, is that people want the What our biggest problem is is people like you. And that is a hell of a rant for a person with too few balls to use a "normal" E-Mail acct. P.J. pjn(a)nworks.com ... Can not read right brain: <A>bort <R>etry <F>rolic ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]

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Re: Why the world needs privay protecting Ecash
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:20 PM 7/27/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >Who said it had to be in one day? I didn't. Most vacations to Europe last a >couple of weeks, e.g., "If this is Tuesday, I need to make a withdrawal in >Milano." The original definition of multiple transactions (structuring) said the transactions had to occur within one day. There is now a separate rule that says that the bank has to report *any* suspicious transactions even if they don't fall under specific regulations. Keep the population guessing as to what's reportable. >I think a lot of ATMs will now dispense big chunks of cash--I've never >checked on limits, but I notice that some CRT screens now have chunks up to >$600 or so listed. New York money center banks allow $1000 a day or so. Credit cards (which are also bank accounts although most don't think of them as such) let more get out and one can always over pay one's credit card to get a credit balance of any amount. They take the money. Usually in those cases, you can withdraw the credit limit each day and then when the account settles overnight it draws down the credit balance you've built up and your available credit is back. Some may do this "live" one would have to experiment. ATM and credit cards may also have different limits for point-of-sale transactions than for cash withdrawals. >Thanks. Still not sure if it applies, but I'd forgotten that it's up to the >banks to do the reports; good to know it's not up to me. You have to report taking cash (currency or monetary instruments) into or out of the country but you don't have to rat on yourself for cash transactions with a bank here. DCF

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Re: The Four Horsemen Go to the Olympics!
by Charley Sparks 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

ANybody got a big timer I can run at boot up ?? PC and MAC ? I travel a lot ! On Sat, 27 Jul 1996 01:43:11 -0700 Bill Stewart <stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com> wrote: > At 11:15 PM 7/26/96 -0700, Alan Olsen <alano(a)teleport.com> wrote: > >Well, there was an explosion at the Olympics... It may have been a bomb or > >it may have been a transformer. > >Expect this to be used as fuel as to why every one in America must be under > >constant survelance by the Government. > >The Four Horsemen are now an Olympic Event! > > Yeah, it's been a wild week. There was also an airplane hijacking > today, which ended peacefully. The hijacker had a laptop wrapped > in tinfoil he was claiming was a bomb.* And of course Clinton's > first speeches after the TWA crash were "we don't have any evidence > of terrorism yet but you'll all have to give up your civil liberties > so we can do a better job of protecting you." > > ---- > *Penn Jillette proposed that a good boot-up program for laptops > and PDAs is one that displays a big timer counting backwards, > for use in airports that want to see that you've got a real laptop. > > # Thanks; Bill > # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com > # <A HREF="http://idiom.com/~wcs"> > # Dispel Authority! > ---------------------- Charley Sparks sparks(a)bah.com

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Re: ALL OF YOU ARE CRIMINAL HACKERS, I AM GOING TO CALL FBI
by Scott Schryvers 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:33 PM 7/26/96 -0700, you wrote: >I AM NOT GOING TO TOLERATE EXISTENCE OF A MEDIUM FOR CRIMINAL HACKERS >AND MUNITIONS SMUGGLERS. I WILL COMPLAIN TO THE FBI IMMEDIATELY SO THAT THEY >CAN TRACK YOU DOWN AND CLOSE THIS LIST. > I'm not. Yet.

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[NOISE] Nerds, Dykes, Niggers, Dweebs, Fags, Bimbos, and Geeks
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 27 Jul 96 at 4:49, and entity caling itself Timothy C. May wrote: [..] > Look, anyone is perfectly free to wear t-shirts espousing "Wimp Pride" and > saying "We're gimps, we're wimps, we're dweebs, and we're PROUD!" > > I just cringe when I meet young programmers at Cypherpunks who mumble "I'm > just a computer geek." Fine, I write them off as geeks. [..] > As for what people ought to call themselves, e.g., when journalists ask > what they are. just what is wrong with "engineer," "programmer," > "scientist," and "cryptographer"? I prefer reclaiming far more ancient terms. "Journeyman programmer" gets more attention than "Consultant" and actually describes something. 'nuff said. --Rob --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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Re: The Four Horsemen Go to the Olympics!
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:43 AM 7/27/96 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: >Yeah, it's been a wild week. There was also an airplane hijacking >today, which ended peacefully. The "funny" part of it, for those who remember the spate of hijackings in the early 70's, is that he hijacked a Cuba-bound airliner...to Miami! Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Lynx...
by Charley Sparks 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have had it with all the cutsie moving graphics and Java intrusions on my feeble 28.8 connection. Can someone PLEASE tell me where I can get a copy of Lynx or similar text based browser for '95 and / or NT ? Thanks folks Charley -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCWAwUBMfo2quJ+JZd/Y4yVAQFPkAQIyBl+XmSRoJUlpDbof8FGNi4TGexivaux ZPPiyuCflseiw53077xP4FsF8Q1v5SgDe/87OCCDiG3XrWqOyRhah5IRmDw+3S2L brxbTc/oqwkCddAGglF08OGOIGHa8iK0x2KhRVZPStRopNbHgVIJiDJzcSFOeFLY mpj0jKto1s7+ =qxPe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Charles E. Sparks<sparks(a)bah.com> In God we trust, all others we encrypt ! http:/www.clark.net/pub/charley/index.htm Public Key At http://www.clark.net/pub/charley/cp_1.htm

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Public vs. Private Munitions
by Erle Greer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's how I understand it: The U.S. Government, concerned only with making America a safer place for us taxpayers to live in, wants to regulate domestic encryption in order to have access to the content of all transmissions. Their theory is that any cryptosystem that is stronger than their cryptanalysis systems can be used in illegal transmissions and should be considered munitions. Theoretically, the government should only be have the resources to control commercially-available, public encryption systems. Who is to stop anyone from designing their own cryptosystem for personal use? If the government intercepted a transmission from this private cryptosystem, and could not decrypt it, would they assume that it must be considered munitions? Similarly, anyone could send uniformly-formatted random garble that could also be considered munitions, or at least waste the governments processing time. Why are we so worried about government regulation? Can't we just devise our own cryptosystems and just don't sell them or make them publicly available? vagab0nd(a)sd.cybernex.net http://ww2.sd.cybernex.net/~vagab0nd/index.html Visit web page for public key.

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