December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Filtering out Queers is OK
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"david(a)sternlight.com" "David Sternlight" 20-JUL-1996 09:08:49.96 >I speak as a father who has raised four children who turned out to be >independent beings to successful adulthood and families of their own, not >as a theoretician. Most of my knowledge on the subject comes from a friend of mine... who's a grandfather (raised 5 children) and a trained child psychiatrist. Until he left his most recent position (in Alabama), he was the head of their child psychiatry training program. -Allen

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Re: lambda 2.09 - French Telco Act Censored?
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:41 PM 7/19/96 +0100, Jerome Thorel wrote: >OECD FAILS TO ACT ON KEY-ESCROW ENCRYPTION; THE US ACCUSED OF "POLICY >LAUNDERING" > >The Paris-based OECD, the 24-members club of industrialised nations, has >failed to take a step towards international recongnition of key-escrow >encryption. The meeting of June 26-28 in Paris, scheduled to take a firm >decision about the possibility of law enforcement agencies to read >electronic mail of private individuals and corporations, didn't succeed to >act on a compromise. The OECD's general secretary has no special power to >draw regulations and must find a common policy on the matter. [deleted] > >Sources said the US were willing to "use" the OECD as a "policy laundering" >machine : to pressure the organisation in order to have the key escrow >policy approved by the 24 countries. US intelligence officials would have >been using it as a political weapon at home, where Congress, >public-interests groups and industry pressure groups are on the verge to >act against any key-escrow policy. Lemme see... The Europeans are now complaining about the US government pushing key escrow on them? So where did that "emerging consensus" go?!? Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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[NOISE} Re: Responding to Pre-dawn Unannounced Ninja Raids
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:10 AM 7/20/96 -0800, Vinnie Moscaritolo wrote: >Speaking of Bob Hettinga put it to words best, told me that standing on the >Concord bridge he could see the colors of the American flag eminating >outwards to the rest of the country. Yup this is where it all started.. Should teach him not to drink so much in the combat zone in Boston. ]:> --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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Re: Responding to Pre-dawn Unannounced Ninja Raids
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:38 AM 7/20/96 -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > >Llywarch Hen writes: >> You have not had the opportunity to look closely at the business end >> of a gun. The hole looks enormous. > >The opening in the barrel of just about every rifle or pistol I've >looked at seems to be about half an inch or less. Perhaps you have >been looking at the 18" guns on the battleship "New Jersey"? There is a time and space dilation when the gun is pointed directly at you and about to be fired. (Been there, done that...) Perception tends to be skewed when all of the adrenaline is pumping into your bloodstream because of a perceived impending death. Believe me, it does look big. A 12 gauge especially... (Had a brother who came close to shooting me because he thought I was a burglar. Not fun.) --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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Re: ABC News on internet telephony
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:12 AM 7/19/96 -0500, snow wrote: > It is my understanding that billing is one of the biggest headaches >and expenses for a phone company. Going to a flat rate would solve a >decent amount of that wouldn't it? I've heard it claimed that billing and customer service is half of their costs, at least. If that's the case, then "flat rate" billing can't be far behind. Prodded by "free" Internet phone, they can't avoid it for much longer. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: [Noise] was Re: Giving 6 year old kids Uzi's
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:31 AM 7/20/96 -0400, Brad Dolan wrote: >> Would you just hand out guns to all teenagers? > >My twelve-year-old daughter asked for and received a .22 for her birthday. >Her four and six year old siblings enjoy shooting it, under close >supervision. I learned how to shoot very young. My father taught me, as well as enrolling me in NRA competitions around age 14. They still have high school rifle teams where I used to live as well. But then the culture is quite different towards guns in Alaska than it is here... (For one, people do not view them as toys and/or possessed by evil spirits or the like...) >Rural America has a very different culture than urban America and urban >America's recent attempts to impose its values (like hoplophobia) on us >really chafes. I bet the "National Curfew" crap that Clinton is trying to push is not going down well either. He seems to think that the problems of a small fraction of the country apply to the whole country... (But it makes for good sound bites.) --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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[NOISE] Re: Firewall Penetration
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:29 PM 7/19/96 +0800, Jerome Tan wrote: >Is it possible to penetrate a firewall? Yes, but it requires alot of time and money. (As well as a nice car and a six figure income.) I recommend taking the firewall out to a nice restaurant, feeding it dinner, taking it out for drinks and then back to your house or apartment. If everything works, you should be able to penetrate said firewall. But she will not return your calls in the morning... --- |"Computers are Voodoo -- You just have to know where to stick the pins."| |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ | alano(a)teleport.com |

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Re: Responding to Pre-dawn Unannounced Ninja Raids
by Arun Mehta 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:10 20/07/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >By "you," I have to presume you mean "me." No, I am not at likely to use >this weapon in a rage against a loved one. Trust me. This was not intended to suggest how "you" might behave, I don't know you that well, it would have been less confusing for me to have used the pronoun "one." >It may sound "stupid" to you...I suggest you read up on evolutionary game >theory. Sometimes one has no choice but to respond to an arms buildup. >Unilateral disarmament rarely works. There are surely alternatives to the extremes of unilateral disarmament and an arms race? For instance, slowing down the race? More often than not, it is the US that has upped the ante. They consistently had more nuclear warheads than the Soviet Union, new technologies that disrupted the status quo came generally from the West. Arun Mehta Phone +91-11-6841172, 6849103 amehta(a)cpsr.org http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta/ finger amehta(a)cerfnet.com for public key

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Curfews again
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 6:37 PM 7/20/96, Alan Olsen wrote: >I bet the "National Curfew" crap that Clinton is trying to push is not going >down well either. He seems to think that the problems of a small fraction >of the country apply to the whole country... (But it makes for good sound >bites.) Yes, I have written about the local "curfew" in my local newsgroup (scruz.general), and I forwarded at least one of these articles to this list, as you may recall. Consistent with my views on gun control, mandatory doping of children, the outlawing of certain dietary items, and on and on, I would be mighty pissed if a kid of mine was picked up the cops and hauled off to a processing center for eventual disposition for the thought crime of being on the street without an excuse acceptable to the local gendarmes. (In fact, I think I'd be tempted to just not answer any phone calls from the reeducation center staffers; getting through to me on the phone can often be difficult, of course, and I doubt they know about e-mail.) I told someone in scruz.general who argued strongly for the need for curfews on kids that her points had convinced me, that I now understood her position, that I now agreed with it, and that I would be doing my part by making a citizen's arrest of any curfew violators I found in my area...especially cute 16-year-old girls. (I never heard from her again...after she stopped foaming at the mouth she probably contacted the Thought Crimes Task Force of the Sheriff's Department.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: PGP Keyserver at jpunix.com
by John A. Perry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The problem with the PGP keyserver at jpunix.com has been corrected. It turned out to be a corrupted keyring. The keyserver is once again available via email at pgp-public-keys(a)jpunix.com as well as by WWW from www.jpunix.com. The WWW interface uses Bal's PGP WWW interface. I apologize for the downtime and the inconvenience. On the up side, I didn't lose any key requests during the downtime. John Perry - perry(a)alpha.jpunix.com - PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! WWW - http://www.jpunix.com PGP 2.62 key for perry(a)jpunix.com is on the keyservers. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMfFE6lOTpEThrthvAQE3cQP/cy7x/LnmfC/31AcIgom3X2Cc/YMR01Jw 95kPt7W0JAz154DZezXLyR79Q7fJ4DYSkHRO6HFGwd5QiCkHrUjv/xweECPf9Q4s x41VnTFxrXGr3+YTm47vL+gBnuVmSTP4ujMC9s6r2zcGOCE3jQXKBLEhGNB6kPxg ab37bM4iGHo= =oONb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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