December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

PR
by caal＠hopf.dnai.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Public Relations > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From xopher(a)ptd.net > Organization ProLog - PenTeleData, Inc. > Date Thu, 13 Jun 1996 00:43:02 GMT > Newsgroups alt.fan.unabomber > Message-ID <4pnobp$1lh(a)ns2.ptd.net> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > PR firm declares war on 'rogue' Web sites > > Copyright © 1996 Nando.net > Copyright © 1996 The Associated Press > > SAN FRANCISCO (Jun 10, 1996 10:23 a.m. EDT) -- To advertisers and > activists, the Internet is > nirvana -- unlimited space and the chance to get their message to the > world. To the public relations > firm of Middleberg and Associates, it's a potential nightmare. > > Before the World Wide Web, people unhappy with individual companies > were reduced to > convincing a news organization they had a legitimate gripe or standing > around handing out leaflets at > corporate headquarters. > > Now, all it takes is a weekend coding some HTML files and every > complaint or concern they've > ever had is instantly available to millions. > > "There was the 'Kmart Sucks' site, created by a disgruntled employee > who was saying a lot of mean > and nasty things about Kmart. Then there was the First Boston site, > where a former employee > published proprietary salary figures," said Don Middleberg, whose firm > protects its clients from > attacks on the Internet. > > "Companies spend small fortunes to create a brand image and something > called good will," he said. > "These sites are actively destroying them." > > To counter the threat, Middleberg's firm monitors the Web for what he > calls "rogue" sites, then finds > the people who created them and attempts to convince them to go > off-line. > > "If gentle persuasion doesn't work," he said from his New York office, > "you need to bring in the > lawyers." > > Over and above First Amendment concerns, threats of legal action are a > long way from the golden > vision of the Web as an democratic leveler rhapsodized about by Howard > Rheingold, who has > written several books about the ethos of the Internet. > > "The Internet puts the masses back in mass media. It lets anyone > publish their manifesto for all the > world to read," Rheingold said from his home near San Francisco. > > Those days are over, countered Middleberg. > > "Rheingold's perceptions of where things are might have been true a > few months ago," he said. "But > this is big business. Things have changed. This is no longer a cottage > industry. Companies have spent > millions of dollars on this. They're going to fight to protect their > sites." > > "If the lawyers decide to go after someone and a company is willing to > spend the dollars, they > certainly can threaten and make life very difficult for people." > > It's legally unclear, however, how much power companies actually have. > Merely making derogatory > comments is not illegal, said David Maher, co-chair of the > subcommittee on Internet Trademark > Issues of the International Trademark Association. > > "If you have an individual who doesn't like Ford motor cars or Burger > King and says rude things > about them, the First Amendment provides quite a shield. Just because > people are saying bad things > about you, you can't necessarily stop them," he said. > > Not only is truth a defense against libel, but trade libel law > requires that a company must show it > actually has been damaged, a higher standard than individuals, who > must show only that their > reputations have been damaged, Maher said. > > But legal or not, even the threat might be enough to shut down smaller > sites, said Jonathan Hall, a > spokesman for the environmental group Greenpeace -- which maintains an > active Web site. > > "I wouldn't be surprised if people gave in if they got a call and were > told to 'remove this or there will > be legal action.' They might do it because they don't know their legal > rights," he said. > > Greenpeace does, which is probably why the association of nuclear > energy producers Middleberg > recently spoke to considers it such a threat. > > "They are scared to death of groups like Greenpeace, who are very > clever in how they use the Net > to get a message out," Middleberg said. > > Not unexpectedly, Middleberg won't name his clients, though he says > he's added eight to the list in > the last six months. > > Other public relations firms say they haven't heard of anyone using a > similar strategy. Curtis Kundred > of Fleishman Hillard International Communications deemed it a > short-run approach that will backfire > in the end. > > "I would hope it's not the job of a public relations firm to muscle > someone into backing down from > expressing their beliefs online," added Amy Oringel of InterActive > Public Relations Inc. > > Up until now, the Web has provided a level playing field, a place > where "Joe Schmoe can have just > as much credibility as CNN," said writer Martin A. Lee, whose book > "Unreliable Sources" was an > expose of the public relations industry. > > "Money is the great unleveler in this equation," he said. "We seem to > be in the crux of a shift, when > the whole equilibrium is shifting from 'a thousand flowers blooming' > to a corporate market. It's > disturbing."

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Applied Cryptography - used copy?
by David Rosoff 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Does anyone have a used copy of Applied Cryptography they'd like to get rid of? (Reply to drosoff(a)arc.unm.edu) =============================================================================== David Rosoff (nihongo o chiisaku dekimasu) -------------> drosoff(a)arc.unm.edu For PGP key 0xD37692F9, finger drosoff(a)acoma.arc.unm.edu or get from keyservers pub 1024/D37692F9 1995/07/01 David Rosoff <drosoff(a)arc.unm.edu> Key fingerprint = 25 7D AA 01 85 41 43 89 50 5A 33 76 F1 F1 99 67 I accept anonymous mail. If I didn't sign it, you don't know I wrote it. === "Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will / To strive, to seek, to find-- and not to yield." <---- "Ulysses", by Alfred, Lord Tennyson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMcHXRBguzHDTdpL5AQFiQgP+Mj545SMMlj70nJzZhFnHiCvNZ0bx/qJy MFhKIZKX6fGINewAgHwscgPiXpQ1mRndp0K2PGeZi0IeaX7pxqZN3Mr8LEQ48Ltz CKc8zolmIIq2cRYC2bmeEDbgLNk6arct2XcJ8DMD0hBd9JMtZlX0OUo53li/zz8p dWEwYo655Sc= =xnql -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Does information want to be free?
by Mark M. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- For those interested, there is an article in the latest Scientific American about copyright laws and how they will be applied to the Internet. It used the banned French book about the former president as an example of just how difficult it is to regulate information. It also addresses whether routers (or analogously anonymous remailers) should be held liable for any copyright violations that may pass through them. - -- Mark =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= markm(a)voicenet.com | finger -l for PGP key 0xe3bf2169 http://www.voicenet.com/~markm/ | d61734f2800486ae6f79bfeb70f95348 "In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point." -- Friedrich Nietzsche -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMcHQnbZc+sv5siulAQFcGAQAj5/LnS2usgN0ElYuH14inFZfLe3bZ6gW gyzSsuIjOp21PSfeCerQSM+7Q5DHj4EV1E17q64Npqx+q8I+bBpHOdMJuTJrRSBI M6dvmAVSB/mgcdO6rvGK5dezWTzofa+4Koo3OxGmiAtnRfcGIIN1ojo/MboIRf/u 6dlThDkaIN4= =0AlF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: doubleclick monitoring web browsing habits
by Hal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "Deranged Mutant" <WlkngOwl(a)unix.asb.com> > Lynx running under Unix can find out who you are on the system by > checking your user id and the hostname. When I run lynx (2.3.7 beta) to <URL: http://www.anonymizer.com/cgi-bin/snoop.pl >, it says: Here's a sampling of the kind of information that a site can collect on you (please wait a moment): Your computer is a Unix box. Your Internet browser is Lynx. You are coming from jobe.shell.portal.com. You just visited the Anonymizer Home Page. No user name here. Also, when I follow a mailto: link it asks me to input the email address I want the mail to be from! So I don't think it is using local user name information, although certainly that is potentially available to it. Hal

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Party!
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The upshot of the attached missive is quite simple, really. RSVP to Julie Rackliffe, mailto://RACKLIFFE@tcm.org , before say, 2PM EDT on Monday, and tell her you're coming. Stragglers aren't frowned on, but we need to do a some capacity planning beforehand. Wanna make sure we print up enough drink tickets, alert the kitchen and the police, and all that. Get on your best bib and tucker (jackets and ties for men, "appropriate business attire" for women). Go to the Harvard Club, 1 Federal Street, Boston, on Thursday, June 20, 1996 from 5-8 pm. Collect your two complementary drink tickets. Thank the folks from OSF, who're sponsoring our first-ever DCSB networking event. Hit the table of complementary munchies for some necessary sustenance. Head to the bar, cash in one (or both) of your drink tickets and... .................schmooze. Easy, you say? Show us how easy. Be there. Aloha, Bob Hettinga Moderator, The Digital Commerce Society of Boston - - --- begin forwarded text Date: 14 Jun 96 07:43:06 EDT From: "Julie Rackliffe" <RACKLIFFE(a)tcm.org> Subject: Party! To: "dcsb" <dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu> Sender: bounce-dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Julie Rackliffe" <RACKLIFFE(a)tcm.org> Greetings, all and sundry! I am delighted to announce that my internet connection is now back on line and I can receive the MANY MANY RSVPs for next Thursday's party that you've been trying to get through and they've bounced back. SEND THEM ON! It's going to be a great time and a perfect opportunity to talk to the people you rarely get to talk to, to introduce friends to the dynamic and exciting world of DCSB and to nosh the best nosh, imbibe just the right amount and enjoy a beautiful kick off to a wonderful summer. Do Come! If you've tried to send me mail in the last two days, try again. If you sent it before that and got no error message, consider yourself golden. Thanks! I need responses TODAY!!! (Monday is the very latest and it's not good to toy with this volatile museum quality internet link. thanks :) ) Julie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To unsubscribe from this list, send a letter to: Majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu In the body of the message, write: unsubscribe dcsb Or, to subscribe, write: subscribe dcsb If you have questions, write to me at Owner-DCSB(a)ai.mit.edu - - --- end forwarded text -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMcHQxvgyLN8bw6ZVAQG06QP/akD1VZumvzGMw552LeCk5YPPICsZt+EG wyHa69h6t3L3ud9Cla5tiRXHEKapu4S19udVyPFL37k5zPJJFfTQ/p8HGVzJgOYm Gu1hoJQNLdF244y5x2OuaFLE9RX1C2T0l7zqum+DLMNOqlZ/dHM1+ApKX+CQaAMi vjryIo7AsHU= =OlZI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "If they could 'just pass a few more laws', we would all be criminals." --Vinnie Moscaritolo The e$ Home Page: http://www.vmeng.com/rah/

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Re: PBS show
by Josh Sled 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, 13 Jun 96 23:23 EDT, Blake Wehlage wrote: >Mac rule they have an awesome GUI (graphical user interface), easy of use it >way up there and they have bitchin' software. > >I know i will regret saying this but: > >The mac OS is 3 times better than Windows '95 Though I agree with you, and I think OS/2's WorkPlace Shell and Presentation Manager is about 10 times better than MacOS, this isn't the place for GUI or OS holy wars... ObCrypto: Incorporating crpyto into a GUI : strong crypto (RSA, 3DES) represented as strong locking devices (safe, vault, etc), weak crypto represented as weak devices (padlock, chain-link)... what do you think? Joshy

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Hackerpunks and C2
by Ecafe Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[ Although this post deals, for concreteness, with a specific mailing list, I hope that cypherpunks will appreciate how the problem alluded to points out a weakness in C2's current nym scheme, which is especially exploitable in the context of general nym based mailing lists being run via similar servers. ] The proposal for a Hackerpunks nym based mailing list is interesting, however, there are some concerns regarding the susceptibility of the list to traffic analysis. The contents of the list will clearly not be secret since anyone can create a C2 nym and then subscribe. For a given bag of messages, B, let L(B) denote the bag of the lengths of the messages in B. (A length, x, appearing n times in L(B) if and only if there are n messages of length x in B.) Let B_x denote the bag of messages that subscriber x receives. If for any two subscribers, a and b, L(B_a)=L(B_b), then someone cooperating with many ISPs could easily guess who was and was not subscribed to the list by seeing if a customer received a bag of messages, M, with L(M)=L(the bag of messages actually posted to the list). A solution to this might seem to be to append to each message posted to the list a pad varying randomly in length between each subscriber who was to receive a copy. However, if the list ownership ever feel into evil hands, the lengths of the pads could be chosen non-randomly, and thus provide very convincing evidence that someone receiving messages of the non-randomly chosen lengths was the owner of the given nym. There is also a concern that the owner of Hackerpunks could be discovered with a traffic analysis similar to the one used to determine list subscribers. This time, let P be the bag of messages (with padding deleted) posted to the list. If someone were to watch to see if some node on the Internet received a bag, I, with L(I)=L(P), then that person could guess that that node had a user who was the owner of the Hackerpunks mailing list. As before it would, of course, not help the owner of Hackerpunks to ask their subscribers to help weaken this attack by padding their messages to random lengths, since a malicious enemy could then determine a non-random sequence of messages lengths and send the corresponding message to owner of Hackerpunks for posting. This would only increase the likelihood that a node receiving those messages had a user who was the owner of the Hackerpunks mailing list. The solution to the two dilemmas seems to be to ask that the C2 re-mailing code be modified so as ensure that each messages is padded to a fixed size before encrypting and being sent through the reply block. On the other hand, this would give away information that anyone receiving messages of this fixed length was likely the owner of some C2 nym.

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Re: PBS show
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:26 AM 6/13/96 +0000, Brad Shantz wrote: >Since I live 10 blocks away from the main MS Campus, I hear >everything there is to hear about Bill Gates. So, it was really >unnecessary for me to watch the hour and a hlaf devoted strictly to >who Bill stole what from. **GRIN** I only watched a few minutes of the show. Did they mention that Microsoft actually bought the MSDOS operating system from Seattle Computer products? Also, in about January of 1976, I attended a meeting at a hotel near Kansas City International airport, run by MITS (makers of Altair) showing off their computer. (They drove a van around the country and demo'd the computer to throngs of...oh...hundreds of people. At the time, I had followed the budding microcomputer hobby only a little. I specifically recall being told at the show of complaints by a company called "Microsoft" that its "4K Basic" was being bootlegged. (Note to the newbies: The term "4K Basic" meant a Basic interpreter that fit in a main memory space of 0.004 megabytes.) I soon learned that they were selling it for about $500, or about 12 cents per executable byte. >> Those were exciting times. But, having worked at Intel during those heady >> days, and being pretty active these days on the Net, I'd have to say the >> Web, Net, Java, etc. are *just as exciting* (if not more so) than those >> days. So, the best years are probably yet to come. > >Having started my "prefessional" Internet career at SPRY in 1993, I >agree that the best of the Internet is yet to come. Bill Gates said >in the show last night that it is almost impossible to judge where >the market will be in a year because things are changing so fast. >Right now everything is a buzzword. JAVA, etc...they are all infant >technologies that if marketed correctly could lead to the next >revolution. Literally! Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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17 Dec '03

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Re: PBS show
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:23 PM 6/13/96 EDT, Blake Wehlage wrote: >At 09:35 AM 6/13/96 -0800, jim bell wrote: >>But the Apple II WAS a toy! Non-detached keyboard, poor placement of reset >>key, upper-case only, 40-character wide display, odd microprocessor, VERY >>SMALL capacity floppies (which were very slow as well), as well as a hostile >>legal situation regarding the building of clones. Hell, they even objected >>to other companies building boards which plugged into the bus! > > >I was not a toy it was what started the PC revolution Grandly ignoring the Altair, the TRS-80 Model I, the IMSAI, et al. Even Jolt! Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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