December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Assasination Politics
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I have changed the subject header (despite its destroying threading with the way my mailreader works) so that Perry et al can more easily filter this out. I have concluded that Assasination Politics, since it is a possible development of true anonymnity, etcetera, is a proper discussion topic for cypherpunks - while not cryptography in and of itself, it is a possible result of cryptography. From: IN%"frantz(a)netcom.com" 12-FEB-1996 03:24:07.29 >Again, absolutely. Hell, I can't even devise a filter that will let me >filter out Jim Bell's rants while letting me see his reasoned arguments on >anonymous assassination. (I would love to have him address the Salman >Rushdie issue, a man who is still alive despite a considerable announced >price for his head. There appear to be limits to who can be subject to >assassination for pay.) Actually, that's an argument for non-misusage of Assasination Politics. If the person hides, there's not much one can do about it. But a hiding law enforcement agent can't be out violating people's rights. (I will mention that whether a right is violated or not is essentially a matter of the perceiver - under any system, whether governmental or not. All ethical arguments assume either some degree of common ground that can be argued from, or the finding of logical inconsistency). Those who do so via the net can be taken care of via the other mechanisms discussed here. It's just that the physical part is a possible net weakness. Moreover, just because _some_ rights-violaters (not that Rushdie was one) aren't killed doesn't mean that all of them wouldn't be. A system doesn't have to be 100% efficient to be effective. However, the Rushdie case does bring up one problem I have with Assasination Politics as currently constructed. While people are unlikely to patronize a general/non-discriminatory organization, a more particular but non-libertarian one is still possible. For instance, if the Christian Coalition put together an organization, anonymously, what would prevent them from offing everyone who was a major leader against them - such as a doctor researching new abortion techniques, or a geneticist (such as myself) doing gene therapy work they found offensive? The patrons would know that _they_ wouldn't be targeted after all... I would appreciate a response from Jim Bell on this subject. -Allen

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Re: LI Newsday OpEd: Criminal Justice System
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> I personally find stuff like this interesting, but I prefer read about > it in places like libernet or the like. Cypherpunks is for > cryptography. I thought it was somewhat related in terms of The Law (tm), but you're point is taken. (Hey, at least I posted highlights rather than the whole article). Rob. --- "Mutant" Rob <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a blank message with the subject "send pgp-key" (not in quotes) for a copy of my PGP key.

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where can I ftp Secure Split?
by jf_avon＠citenet.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

**** NEW PGP 2.6.2 KEY ********* 2048 bits Key ID:24201BA1 1996/02/13 Jean-Francois Avon <jf_avon(a)citenet.net> Key fingerprint = 23 B6 24 31 86 67 FB 35 C7 A7 AF 12 A1 61 E9 3D **** OLD KEY: DO NOT USE ANYMORE UNLESS FOR VERIFYING SIGNATURES **** 1024 bits Key ID:57214AED 1995/10/04 Jean-Francois Avon <jf_avon(a)citenet.net> Key fingerprint = 84 96 76 AE EB 7C AB 15 88 47 87 B0 18 31 74 9F

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Re: A Cyberspace Independence Refutation
by tallpaul＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear Decius, I greatly enjoyed your post on this topic at the cpyherpunks list. On a related issue, I have been giving a lot of thought to the possibility of moving the functional aspect of anon servers away from professionally administered and globally known sites like C2 to many smaller virtually unknown sites. I have been informed that the latest Sysquest parallel port 135 Mb drive lets you boot off of it, (e.g. load the driver off a floppy then boot a new OS off the Sysquest.) This permits one to put a linux kernal, lots of utilities, pgp, mixmaster, etc. etc. on the single $20 floppy drive, along with an easy to use and understand interface for the "sysop." People can then have a complete mixmaster etc. system regardless of what OS they use on their regular machine, resident on a floppy easy to hide and cheap enough to destroy. It would lead to an enormous number of sites popping up among jr. high school students in the family garage or rec room through undregrads in their dorm rooms. Access would be mainly through personal friendships and word of mouth. Makes it almost infinitely more difficult for government to track them down let alone clamp down. --tallpaul

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Re: [NOISY] Re: New Internet Privacy Provider - Press Release
by David Neal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 18:12:58 -0500 (EST) > From: "Declan B. McCullagh" <declan+(a)CMU.EDU> > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com, Vincent Cate <vince(a)offshore.com.ai> > Subject: [NOISY] Re: New Internet Privacy Provider - Press Release > Cc: > Excerpts from internet.cypherpunks: 9-Feb-96 New Internet Privacy > Provid.. by Vincent Cate(a)offshore.co > > PRESS RELEASE: 2/9/96 Anguilla, Offshore Information Services Ltd. > > > > As a result of recent efforts to censor the Internet in France, Germany, > > China, and now the USA, [we] anticipate > > a larger market for privacy services over the Internet. ... > > Thanks, but no thanks. I don't need a shell account at $1,200 a year. > You though that was bad? (Besides I though it was $300/yr not a quarter) try their clearing services! $500/mo + 6% of all tranactions. Yeoch. I know T1s and satellite links overseas are expensive, but they're not THAT expensive. Hey, Mark Twain. Form a seychelles entity with the same fee schedule as your U.S. counterpart. You won't know what to do with all the money!

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Re: Linux on the Mac
by Franklin Reynolds 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: cjs(a)netcom.com (cjs) >To: olbon(a)dynetics.com (Clay Olbon II) >Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Subject: Re: Linux on the Mac >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 07:26:42 -0800 (PST) >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >> In the latest PowerPC news it is reported that OSF is porting Linux >> to the Mac with the support of Apple. Apple has a web site - >> www.mklinux.apple.com that discusses this and has a link to the OSF >> site. In my book, this is a GoodThing(tm). Of course, being a huge >> fan of both the Mac and unix might put me in the minority ;-) > >They aren't *really* porting Linux to powermac. They're throwing a >little bit of paint on OSF/1 and hiding some stuff in libc. > >Looks to me like they are basicly trying to ca$h in on the Linux name >and reputation without contributing anything to the cause. > >I personally think that Linux International (they still around?) >should put out a counter press-release informing the public that the >Apple/OSF Linux shares only the name. > >Christopher *Sigh* OSF ported Linux to our microkernel which is derived from Mach 3.0 from CMU. And we have ported our kernel and the Linux server to PPC. Of course some of the functionality that is in Linux was replaced with micro-kernel functionality. That was the point. The Linux server implements the higher level OS functionality like the file system, process management, networking, signals, etc. The paper presented at the Conference on Freely Distributable Software describes some of the technical details. We have also ported OSF/1 to our microkernel. Both servers are layered on top of the same microkernel. Perhaps you are confusing the microkernel with the OSF/1 server? Anyway, you don't have to worry about getting any OSF/1 code. OSF/1 is licensed software. It is illegal to distribute it freely. Franklin Reynolds Open Software Foundation | phone # 617-621-7321 11 Cambridge Center | fax # 617-621-8696 Cambridge, MA 02142 | fdr(a)osf.org

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Re: Response to Perrygram
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Am I the only one who thinks that big money could be made selling tickets >for a first class section in which Mr. Metzger and Mr. May were seated >in 2a and 2b? Personally, I'd pay big money for a firehose, myself... Or, as someone said once said long ago on a list far away: Perry and Tim, Why don't you two have sex already? The tension around here is getting unbearable... ;-) Cheers, Bob ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell The e$ Home Page: http://thumper.vmeng.com/pub/rah/

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Top 10 anagrams - "Communications Decency Act"
by Rishab Aiyer Ghosh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Terribly sorry, I've a mail backlog a mile long, haven't seen this yet, etc etc. Besides, it's so short, and so brilliant, that it deserves being posted more than once. -Rishab ---begin forwarded text--- From: Mike Morton <mike(a)morton.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 96 20:25:35 -1000 Subject: Top Ten Anagrams -- 'Communications Decency Act' Copyright (c) 1996 by the author, Mike Morton <mike(a)morton.com>. All rights reserved. You may reproduce this, in whole or in part, in any form provided you retain this paragraph unchanged. Top Ten Anagrams for "Communications Decency Act" 10. Caution cynic: Scan modem, etc. 9. Communist, candy, cocaine, etc. 8. Academic custom: Cynic on 'Net 7. Connect CIA, communist decay 6. I disconnect my Acme account 5. [This anagram too offensive to post] 4. Condoms, etc., can cue intimacy 3. Decency? Commit a sin, account! 2. Cut my academic connections And the number one anagram for "Communications Decency Act": 1. Comic scene: Nudity act on Mac Runners-up: A succinct edict: man, economy CIA? Disconnect me, my account? Connect Mosaic; induce my act Cute, cosmetic cynic: Madonna I accuse; condemn my tactic, no? I accused: Connect into my Mac I can't commend saucy conceit Media custom: Connect a cynic Mice may disconnect account Scan me: CIA concocted mutiny ---end forwarded text--- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Indian Techonomist - newsletter on India's information industry http://dxm.org/techonomist/ rishab(a)dxm.org Editor and publisher: Rishab Aiyer Ghosh rishab(a)arbornet.org Vox +91 11 6853410; 3760335; H 34 C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA

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Rivest's Goldmine
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Probably old news to wizened Cypher-Codgers, still, Ron Rivest's Web site is a treasure: http://theory.lcs.mit.edu/~rivest/crypto-security.html Has he omitted any crypto-security source? His site should be regularly cited for cypher-coder toddlers and numbheads.

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Re: CyberAngels
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"joseph(a)genome.wi.mit.edu" 13-FEB-1996 02:57:56.92 >I agree with allen, about the issues of 'nym. But looking at other aspects >of these cyberangels I'm unsure how to feel. On one hand they seem resonable, >protecting only the children. "Acts bewteen consenting adults are okay" say >they. But the protect the children was what the CDA hid under. The 'CyberAngels' are rather like the CDA in that they keep using child pornography as a red herring to avoid talking about everything else they want to do. I will not be surprised if they wind up being informants for the CDA. The following CuDigest issues may shed some light on the issue. Both I and tallpaul have done some responding to them, incidentally. (In all of these, http://www.soci.niu.edu/~cudigest/ should be put in front of the web addresses.): Vol 7, Issue 86: CUDS7/cud786 Vol 7, Issue 87: CUDS7/cud787 Vol 7, Issue 91: CUDS7/cud791 Vol 7, Issue 93: CUDS7/cud793 (I will note that the relevant article contains an inaccuracy on bestiality, claiming that it is illegal in all states. This is not the case, as some later CuDigests explain.) Vol 7, Issue 94: CUDS7/cud794 Vol 8, Issue 4: CUDS7/cud804 Vol 8, Issue 6: CUDS8/cud806 (I would appreciate some responses explaining the difference between an anonymous remailer and methods for mailbombing using forgeries - "Gabriel" does not seem to understand this. Vol 8, Issue 13: CUDS8/cud813 -Allen

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