December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

A good cryptanalysis text?
by Sherry Mayo 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Hi all > > A friend of mine is looking for a good introductory cryptanalysis > text. Does Schneier's book cover this in much depth or is it more > cryptography as the name implies. > > My friend is a computer networking admin who is trying to widen > his background knowledge of security related issues (this may > mean that a more computing oriented intro is more suitable). > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > Sherry > >

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Re: Response to Perrygram
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>And why don't you stop cluttering up the list with supposedly cute stuff >like this? <Forgot the number one rule of domestic violence. Don't ever try to get between the participants and get them to calm down unless you're wearing your Kevlar Y-fronts.> It seems it must be time to up my Ritalin dose. I will refrain such patent copralalia in the future. If I can restrain myself. I most abjectly beg your forgiveness for violating the pristine discourse of this most august e-mail list. Cheers, Bob Hettinga <Yeah, right. Feh!> ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell The e$ Home Page: http://thumper.vmeng.com/pub/rah/

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Re: The Emotional Killer (or out of the frying pan and into
by tallpaul＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Feb 11, 1996 23:48:29, 'jim bell <jimbell(a)pacifier.com>' wrote: >At 11:59 PM 2/11/96 -0500, tallpaul wrote: >>I want to write on the theme posted to the list in the message below where >>J. Bell wrote "It is their ACTIONS that I feel violate my rights; that is >>what justifies my seeking their deaths, should I choose to do so." >> >>First, one thing that marks the sane adult from the child and the floridly >>psychotic adult is the sane adult's knowledge that "feelings" and "facts" >>are two different things. >> >>It is one thing to "feel," as J. Bell or all of us might, that our rights >>have been violated. >> >>It is another thing to maintain, as J. Bell uniquely appears to do, that >>the "feeling" gives him the right to seek another person's death. > >You're clearly confused. I was responding to an accusation that I was >defending seeking somebody's death simply because of a disagreement of >OPINION. My comment was intended to remind the reader that it is the >ACTIONS of a person which justify the self-defense; not simply the >disagreement. I disagree and I believe that my quote (reposted by J. Bell) of his original statement supports me. He mentioned "ACTIONS" and he mentioned "OPINIONS" but he relied on his "feelings" as the touchstone of reality. More than ever I believe that he genuinely cannot understand the difference. He still confuses his "feelings" which exist nowhere but inside his head with "ACTIONS" which exist outside his head in the real world. He shows similar confusion as he continued to write. > >You falsely imply that a person can't be correct in his assessment that his >rights were, indeed, violated. > I implied no such thing. If anything, I implied the opposite. Human beings can assess reality. But they do not do so with "feelings;" they do so with intellectual reality testing, not emoting. > >> >>This and other posts by J. Bell and other lib'bers lead me to believe that >>their claimed interest in human freedom for everyone is little more than a >>cover for a set of authoritarian expectations that they can do whatever >>they want, free from any control, responsibility, or accountability. > >Since you just got through misrepresenting my position, probably >intentionally, it's pretty hard to take the rest of your opinions seriously. > >>The argued centrality of J. Bell's "feelings" over other people's lives is >>something that puts him in the god category. (Thankfully J. Bell is not one >>of the dreaded tax collectors or "socialist statists.") > >You're wrong yet again. Let's see, tallpaul needs a logic lesson: > >Let's suppose I _believe_ my rights are being violated. While that, in >itself, does not guarantee that this is CORRECT, on the other hand it >doesn't mean that it is INCORRECT, either. You're falsely implying that I >was ignoring the issue of correctness; I wasn't. > If he was not ignoring "correctness" I neither know nor see where in his original post he mentioned this. He may wish to give me a "logic lesson" over the issue of observation, but this also seems lacking in his post. --tallpaul

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Re: PING packets illegal?
by Markus L. Noga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I think there is an implementation of IDEA called TinyIDEA that will fit in <512 bytes. Why don't you try it? - -- Markus L. Noga <mlnoga(a)mail.hh.provi.de> - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMSKO0ioZzwIn1bdtAQFXjAF9HIqkY59gp351Yv6ud8S6ZpxjvNaTh7NZ rFSKNhly3uebjgN+mav7AewZ0wMtCuXW =gg2N -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: FCPUNX:Beta Testers Wanted
by Ken D Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:28 AM 2/12/96 -0500, you wrote: > > >> Please let me beta test the new puffer! I just started using it. Its great! >> I know next to nothing about crypto and am using Windows 3.1, but puffer >> provides me with easy access to file security. >> >> Ken Hayes >> >> KDHayes(a)earthnet.net >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> Ken Hayes (KDHayes(a)Earthlink.net) Veiws expressed represent only my own. >> >> > >========================================================================== > + ^ + | Ray Arachelian |Emptiness is loneliness, and loneliness| _ |> > \|/ |sunder(a)dorsai.org|is cleanliness and cleanliness is god-| \ | ><--+-->| |liness and god is empty, just like me,| \| > /|\ | Just Say |intoxicated with the maddness, I'm in| <|\ > + v + | "No" to the NSA!|love with my sadness. (Pumpkins/Zero)| <| n >===================http://www.dorsai.org/~sunder/========================= > > >[This Bible excerpt awaiting review under the Communications Decency Act] >And then Lot said, "I have some mighty fine young virgin daughters. Why >don't you boys just come on in and do em right here in my house - I'll just >watch!"....Later, up in the mountains, the younger daughter said. "Dad's >getting old. I say we should do him." So the two daughters got him drunk and >did him all that night. Sure enough, Dad got em pregnant....Onan really >hated the idea of doing his brother's wife and getting her pregnant while >his brother got all the credit, so he whacked off first....Remember, it's >not a good idea to have sex with your sister, your brother, your parents, >your pet dog, or the farm animals. [excerpts from the Old Testament, Modern >Vernacular Translation, TCM, 1996] > > > > Ken Hayes (KDHayes(a)Earthlink.net) Veiws expressed represent only my own.

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MES_sag
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Wash Post today has front page "Specialists Say Message Spotlights Issues of Power, Responsibility" on an alleged abuse of the Internet by a UMD student (and member of the Utopian Anarchist Party) who posted a message accusing a mother of mistreating a daughter, and asking readers to telephone the mother to protest -- which many did, causing mayhem in the harem. Stiff-necks say that the incident demonstrates the uncontrolled nature of the Net. "Computer experts said lack of accountability in Internet communication could expand with the use of anonymous remailers." Easy e-mail forgery is noted. MES_sag

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Re: Assasination Politics
by jf_avon＠citenet.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I understand your concern. I wish there was some simple argument I could >give which would assuage your fears. However, I look at it this way: The >Federal government (and all other governments, around the world) are >curently parasites on the rest of the population. Now "parasite theory" is >that the parasite has some sort of optimum "parasite level" above which he >cannot go. Once the cost for such parasitism is removed, there will be an >economic boom for those "hosts" of the parasite. Naturally, the parasite >will be in trouble, but that's only justice. One thing you have to assess, is: what is the percentage of the population who longs for a 'free lunch'. And also, how much money is a big company willing to subsidise the predictor of the 'suicide' of a new competitor (the case of the lone inventor with patents rights and a revolutionary invention). If you underestimate this number, you (or other like-minded peoples) might very well end up on the exit end of a gun barrel... But anyways, if I were you, I'd watch my back. The spooks are probably already trying to figure out a way out of it. JFA **** NEW PGP 2.6.2 KEY ********* 2048 bits Key ID:24201BA1 1996/02/13 Jean-Francois Avon <jf_avon(a)citenet.net> Key fingerprint = 23 B6 24 31 86 67 FB 35 C7 A7 AF 12 A1 61 E9 3D **** OLD KEY: DO NOT USE ANYMORE UNLESS FOR VERIFYING SIGNATURES **** 1024 bits Key ID:57214AED 1995/10/04 Jean-Francois Avon <jf_avon(a)citenet.net> Key fingerprint = 84 96 76 AE EB 7C AB 15 88 47 87 B0 18 31 74 9F

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Cypherpunks in 3/96 WIRED -\"Wisecrackers\" by Steven Levy
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Indeed, congrats Steven, a swell, crackerjack story well told. Flattering exhibits of Damien and DW. Ponder the garish payback frontis-pieces announcing Steven's tale of "a throbbing collaborative network of potential crackers -- and, maybe, thieves and saboteurs." Steven, your credit sez the next book is "Crypto," about the revolution in cryptography. Can you give a date for publication?

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Re: Error Condition Re: UNSCRIBING
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Responding to msg by lharrison(a)mhv.net ("Lynne L. Harrison") on Wed, 14 Feb 10:12 AM >>An MIT student, no doubt hoping to enhance the >>reputation of his school, wrote: >> >>>> Who the fuck are you? .......As for your ending remarks I don't give >>>>a fuck what Judge Ito, Tim May or any other person has to say. > > The best thing is to annoy the message. UNSCRIBE >messages hit the c|punks list every so often. Rest >assured that the MIT student knows very well how to >unsubscribe - and how to spell. Yeah, place your bet that Tim writes these trolls and answers them, pumping the conversation, fostering coy controversies. Smart guy, bores easily, likes to lure the rubes, he says. Toy with them, spout outrageous remarks, act indiginant when they are challenged, feign hurt, let suckers defend him. Sometimes mimics Rimm, may impersonate him, too, or coach Marty, who knows? He's got lots of Net personas, seldom non grata. He's a vintage infotainer, California dreaming, an export techno-wine of the region. Avid Rube

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Re: anonymous age credentials, sharing of
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:38 PM 2/14/96, Michael Froomkin wrote: >Suppose Alice is a CA who issues anonymous age credentials. >Bob is 15 >Carol is 25 > >Carol gets a legitimate anonymous age credential from Alice bound to an >anonymous public key generated for this purpose. Carol then gives the >key pair to Bob. Bob uses to do things only adults are legally permitted >to do. (It's not bound to Carol's everday keypair because that's not >anonymous....) > >What can stop Bob and Carol from subverting a scheme that relies on >anonymous age creditials in this manner? Nothing, except biometric methods (fingerprints, retinal scans, electronic signatures (the pen type), DNA, etc.) That is, if the credential is transferrable by transfer (not a syllogism), then it can be transferred. If, however, the credential needs some input from a local biometric input device, then this makes it harder to transfer the credential. Unless the biometric device is bypassed.... (Likewise, Carol could log on to the illegal activity and "let Bob watch." Another form of bypassing viewing credentials.) >If the answer is "nothing" this might mean that purveyors of "adult" >material might have no defense against a law requiring that they collect a >True Name + age creditential.... There are interesting questions here....mostly I think of the "True Name" as only another credential, but this is a complicated argument to make, and I don't have the time right now. (Also, Perry is even now composing a "what does this have to do with cryptography?" perrygram.) --Tim May Boycott espionage-enabled software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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