December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Denying Entrance Visas to Troublemakers
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:08 AM 2/18/96, Ed Carp wrote: >Another problem - if you ever want to get into the US, you can kiss that >chance goodbye. They might not even let you into the country as a >visitor. Stupid. A fair number of Western countries have laws that say, >in effect, that if you do something in your country that isn't illegal in >your country but is in country X, then country X can bar you entry or PR >status or citizenship based on the fact that is *is* a crome in country X. > >Never mind that you may not even be aware that it *is* a crime in another >country, etc. I suspect that it's intended to bar war criminals and such, >but it could just as easily be used against the common immigrant. Oh, but it is done very, very often. That is, it is not something reserved for "war criminals" (not that war criminals are excluded, as shown by the Dayton Accords, and other visits.) "Denied entry" and "undesirable" are the operative words. The offense may be writing materials critical of the U.S. (poetry, novels, etc....so far, not Net stuff). Various flavors of activists, writers, critics, etc. are often denied visas to enter the U.S. I don't believe the Net has yet registered on the Richter scale of visa grantings, but I suspect it will within a couple of years, both because the Net will become a more important media channel and because it will be so easy to compile lists of folks who will be denied entrance visas. (And the same applies in reverse. I have no doubt that I will be denied visas to enter various countries, including the freedom-loving countries of the mullahs and sheiks, and that country which sent Pollard to spy on the U.S. Good thing I don't want to visit any of them, except Iraq.) --Tim May Boycott espionage-enabled software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Legal status of Indian Reservations and CDA
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:03 PM 2/17/96 +0000, you wrote: >If I remember correctly, are not American Indian reservations considered >qusi-sovergin states under the law? Indian tribes no longer function as sovereigns - they're considered domestic dependent nations. The lack of *state* (CA, OR, WA, etc) jurisdiction over Indian country comes from federal preemption. Tribes retain some civil regulatory jurisdiction, but it does not function to exclude federal regulation. (see http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~gbroiles/torres.html for more re tribal regulatory jurisdiction) >If this is true, what would stop me from negotiating with some tribe to >establish an ISP on the reservation and then placing whatever material I >wanted on that site without fear of reprisals from the US goverment. The problem with this is that the feds have jurisdiction over crimes occurring within Indian country. Tribes may also exercise jurisdiction over tribal members who violate tribal law. ( * Modulo PL-280, modulo the civil rights act of 1968, which gave and took away and gave back (sort of) criminal jurisdiction to the states in 5 states - CA, OR, WA, MN, NE (?), and other states/tribes who choose to opt into PL-280's framework. Yow.) Doing business within Indian country won't help you escape Federal law; Federal law enforcement is often the local law enforcement. (State jurisdiction over gambling, jurisdiction over taxation of economic transactions, and criminal jurisdiction should be considered independently; they are all created or extinguished by different Federal statutes, sometimes state-by-state, sometimes tribe-by-tribe. Also, the Pueblos of New Mexico and Arizona(?) may have a different status because they gained their land from the government of Mexico.) Jurisdictional questions under Federal Indian law are always messy. If it was as easy as "do it on a reservation", people would've been doing it for years with drugs & alcohol. But the Feds thought of that already. -- "The anchored mind screwed into me by the psycho- | Greg Broiles lubricious thrust of heaven is the one that thinks | gbroiles(a)netbox.com every temptation, every desire, every inhibition." | -- Antonin Artaud |

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Re: Using lasers to communicate
by ericd＠shop.internet.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

That URL should be: httpd://www.lasercomm/lasercomm Eric P.S. Thanks John for pointing this out! At 8:42 PM 2/17/96, Eric Davis wrote: >Woooa there.... > >Lasers are not exactly expensive or complicated.... > >Check out www.lasercomm.com. 4-15Mb/s lasers. >or Cannon 10-100Mb/s lasers. > >I have installed these products *many* times and their setup and operation >is fast and efficient. (used to work for Interop) > >Exmaple: >We used a pair of these, and MBONE, to provide a 2 way real time video >confrence link joining an IETF session between a room of >users at Japan Interop (local) and a group in Sweeden (IETF). The setup >a was last minute point to point Ethernet link from the confrence center >to a local hotel acress the road. We had 1.5 hours to perform ALL >of the work, from wiring both roofs, seting up the lasers, wiring >the internal hotel/confrence center, and setting up systems and projectors. >!!The Laser setup took about :15 minutes, tops!! > >BTW: With this system the transmit "beam" is focused into a "spot" half >way between the sending and receiving units. The receiving unit >is tuned to look for that focused "spot". This means that there is a >very large (area wise) low power laser pattern behind each of the >receivers! With a sensitive enough receiver, it is possible to hear >this signal! > >When you need to transport a data stream (1-155Mb/s) to a remote >site, this solution works out to be *MUCH* cheaper than leasing >circuits from bell, bypass folks, etc.. > >Another case in point: We (ISN) needed to transport a 100Mb/s (FDDI) between \ >2 sites. Upon checking, the price of PacBell "dim" fiber was outrageous! >We had no MFS/TCG/etc fiber in the man hole to latch onto. The choice was >clear. > >As for security, the bottom line is that encryption devices are cheap. > >Last plus for these units is that most foreign countries do not prevent >the use of these point to point optical devices. This is not the case >for spread spectrum multipoint or microwave point to point radio devices. > >Eric Davis > > > >At 10:44 PM 2/17/96, SINCLAIR DOUGLAS N wrote: >>> If you have a secure link you don't need encryption. Arguably, the >>> converse is true; if you have secure encryption you don't need >>> a secure link. Isn't the ability to transmit secure data over >>> insecure channels one of the primary justifications for encryption? >>> >> >>Of course. My point, though I seem to have failed to state it, >>is that encryption is a cheap software thing while laser beams >>are expensive, complicated, and still not secure. > >------------------------------------------------------------- >Eric Davis -- ericd(a)internet.net >Director, Information Systems >Internet Shopping Network -- http://www.internet.net/ >415-846-7449 Voice -- 415-842-7415 Fax -- KD6HTO Radio >------------------------------------------------------------- >- One by one our rights are taken, One by one we loose our >- freedom. Step by step we're coming for them, One by one >- we're coming. - Inka Inka - Myth of the Machine - Step Back ------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Davis -- ericd(a)internet.net Director, Information Systems Internet Shopping Network -- http://www.internet.net/ 415-846-7449 Voice -- 415-842-7415 Fax -- KD6HTO Radio ------------------------------------------------------------- - One by one our rights are taken, One by one we loose our - freedom. Step by step we're coming for them, One by one - we're coming. - Inka Inka - Myth of the Machine - Step Back

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Re: Nyms with keys
by an5877＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: credential "borrowing"
by A. Padgett Peterson P.E. Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Did anybody see the movie Demolition Man? Biometrics were "hacked" >there. I guess it's hard to be sure, but it seems something in your >brain is tougher to extract than a finger or an eyeball. The texts say a >combination is a good idea. Well, for a well funded adversary, the first step is to buy a duplicate to the system to be subverted and analyze it. Usually is nnot difficult. Problem with biometrics is the cost/speed. To do it right is going to be slow/expensive. Few are. However the traditional rule has been "something you have/something you know" two factors are good, three are better. In that line, along with one of my primary tasks (securing of notebooks) have been warning people that if the information is valuable enough to require that level of protection then the user is put at added risk the same way that better automobile locks spawned carjackings. Duress codes are not difficult to impliment. BTW voted for Ed Clark once since "none of the above" was not an option. Spent the next year getting beg letters from various libertarian groups. Warmly, Padgett

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Re: China -- the fragile glimmer of freedom
by Bruce Baugh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:46 AM 2/17/96 -0800, Timothy May wrote: >Well, where are the posts from outraged Cypherpunks living in the People's >Republic of China? In many cases, exercising the prudence appropriate to people whose friends have been run over by tanks in recent years. In other cases, doing things in venues that happen not to cross this list. In much of China the central government is already a dead letter, with effective power being wielded at the municipial and provincial level. Friends of my family who do business in China report that the major question at this point is making sure that local military authorities don't decide to confiscate all the assets of prospering businesses. Part of this is very strong security for sensitive transactions. I can't know for sure, obviously, but I'd be unsurprised to find as many copies of PGP running in regions like Shanghai, Shenzen, and Guangzhou as there are in the United States. A lot of these folks don't have good net connectively, and won't for a long time. Some of them have it but are leery of posting critical stuff that will attract hostile attention. Others are, for all I know, protesting in relevant soc.culture groups and such places. It's very easy to develop an inflated sense of the importance of the forums one happens to belong to - Cypherpunks isn't all that widely known, and even though it is, or at least has been, an outstanding gathering of folks making crypto happen, there are other vectors for these things. >are in the so-called "Western world." We have a chance to deploy strong >crypto, the residents of Nepal and Singapore do not. As it happens, I _do_ know for a fact of at least one copy of PGP running in Nepal, in the hands of a agricultural broker. Tim, you're beyond your knowledge here. -- Bruce Baugh bruce(a)aracnet.com http://www.aracnet.com/~bruce

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Monthly Remailer Perfs, Prelims
by Bruce Baugh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm in the process of running what I guess will be my monthly series of remailer tests, where I send posts through a given remailer to a nym at c2 and then back through the remailer to me. While it'll be most of a week before I'm done, some preliminary observations. - armadillo and hroller are sorely missed. - remailer(a)valhalla.phoenix.net is, so I'm told, not a valid address. And I get a failure to find the host name at wmono(a)spook.alias.net. Anyone want to shed light on this? - performance is noticeably slower throughout. In January I routinely got messages back in five to ten minutes. Now the shortest round trip is about fifty minutes. Is the load on the remailers that much higher, or are other factors at work? -- Bruce Baugh bruce(a)aracnet.com http://www.aracnet.com/~bruce

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Re: Computer unmasks Anonymous writer...
by um＠c2.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>in the Mathematics Department took part in a statistical analysis of the >Letters of Junius, which appeared anonyously in the Morning Advertiser in >London in the early 1760s. They were ascribed to almost every writer of You can find some more information by searching for "stylometry" or "forensic stylometry" on the net, and probably more in libraries.

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Denver area meeting today, 2/18, 2 pm
by awestrop＠crl.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Usual Suspects will congregate today at the Tivoli, and may visit Majordomo's Net Cafe or other sites of interest. Anyone who's not hanging out with Steve Jackson, Larry Niven, et al, at the Lakewood Sheraton is welcome to drop by; send me a note if you need directions. N. B. -- The Tivoli was built in 1890 to brew Denver beer, Aspen beer, Tivoli beer, etc., and is NOT affiliated with IBM!$%#&@! :-) Alan Westrope PGP public key: http://www.nyx.net/~awestrop <awestrop(a)nyx.net> <awestrop(a)crl.com> PGP 0xB8359639: D6 89 74 03 77 C8 2D 43 7C CA 6D 57 29 25 69 23 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMSc0hFRRFMq4NZY5AQEvvAQAqPy2YsGsbjiLz2vWvB0RPvdpcURCytRS hgCNlbNdMIA5upDzIjhRW4YlkM73cfwl/PQBRy+maXNrNM1QYXVh4wh3khcJoRh1 kVPUNYycz3HaDIH/PFGojgzJXUFhcDhRvEtTsywfhkK8OvifnkFCXAOST8rrygip n+FYY4taFTc= =OhuU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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PUF_fup
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

2-18-96. NYT: "Nerds' Revenge: A How-To Manual. Silicon Valley Is Paved with Paper Fortunes, And Quick Ways To Enjoy them." A long look at how Netscapers are able to quickly get around stock locks and gorge on roadkills while predatory Wall Street and vulture banks eat their guts. Fancy cars and tacky houses are lampooned. "Internet Dreams: from $.10 to $30." A squint at creating instant wealth in the Cybercash puff-up. PUF_fup

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