December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: PGP Distribution Site at MIT *DOWN*
by carolann＠censored.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sat Nov 25th, 1995: >We apologize for the inconvenience and hope to have full service >restored shortly. > -Jeff Can you PLEASE put the .org permissions back in it! Thanks ever so much. censored.org can't get in. Love Always, Carol Anne -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMLd3ZorpjEWs1wBlAQHQXQP9EzvOuKxWs3f1gLPbhmUC7BMJcHLR8Dfz jeU0AyGsxp9KWvfeut2nNzbSYsAgzLGUwmoQcU66t8iJPCXVW/mCORo5R1tExi+p RFlPrhyfJyDxJfNT/RzRlrQT6KDj5U4AizIliaGdVh3KVHUmOiUNxX/4FAUQTKpl c+kEefbMElI= =9Y9F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Member Internet Society - Certified BETSI Programmer - Webmistress *********************************************************************** Carol Anne Braddock (cab8) carolann(a)censored.org 206.42.112.96 My Homepage The Cyberdoc *********************************************************************** ------------------ PGP.ZIP Part [017/713] ------------------- M8H,),S$8G>&.WP(8IRA`-M['+`Q%&_C"">5-F%LX@<_Q$;*P'',Q$Z/AA[8M MF=O0H+*%(-S%&>S%+FS&<LS%3(Q&#W1"<]2%`H^;,]^1C$'HBN8PX$4SYAU^ MPGD<Q0ZLA0D+,`MCT!LA**4M[-JPAK9F?40!AJ,CW"'%DR#:'9?Q)3[%<DQ` ------------------------------------------------------------- for next chunk to export --> http://dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/export/

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No Subject
by Albert Nanomius 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

------- Forwarded Message From: "LadyNada" <ladynada(a)ix.netcom.com> To: snet-l(a)world.std.com Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 13:26:39 +0000 Subject: Post Office to approve some internet email - -- Area : AEN NEWS -----------------------------------------( M-BOARD.SU1 )---- Msg# 22280 Date: 11-18-95 19:01 From: jared(a)alaska.net Read: No Replied: No To: All Mark: Subj: Oh, great. The Post Office is going to certify Internet mail. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jared Armstrong" <jared(a)alaska.net> Originally to: news(a)aen.org Original Date: Sat, 18 Nov 95 18:47 EST http://techweb.cmp.com/techweb/ia/18issue/18post.html > [Image] > Post Office offers Internet digital ID > Certification authority a key enabler of electronic commerce > By Gail Bronson > Side bar WASHINGTON - Come next summer, the U.S. Postal Service > expects to be up and running with a service that will identify > senders and receivers of Internet messages, a critical enabler of > electronic commerce. > Specifically, the Postal Service will operate a certification > authority for public-key certificates used to digitally sign > messages transmitted over the Internet. > The Postal Service expects the service to be of particular interest > to anyone involved in electronic commerce or electronic data > interchange, in which the ability to assure the identity of both > the sender and receiver of information can be crucial. > "Right now there is no way to figure out if messages on the > Internet have been tampered with nor is there any way to > authenticate the genuine identity of a sender," said Paul Raines, > program manager for electronic commerce at the Postal Service. "It > could be a dog on the other end of the Internet now for all you > know." > Limited beta tests of the Postal Service's system already are under > way within the federal government, at the Federal Aviation > Administration, Social Security and the Internal Revenue Service. > "We're eager to work with VeriSign [RSA Data Security Inc. > spin-off] and any other certification authorities to come up with > ways to help with cross certification," Raines said. "We're not in > this to compete with private companies, rather, we're trying to > enable [the electronic commerce] industry." > Some users may find the Postal Service certification authority > service more appealing than private alternatives because its > service will carry the weight of law - tampering with Internet > messages would be as much a crime as tampering with regular U.S. > mail. On the other hand, there is always the lingering concern of > having to deal with a federal bureaucracy. > The Postal Service intends to play two roles in the certification > business. > First, as a certifying service the federal agency will provide the > code, or public-key certificate, necessary for recipients of > digitally signed messages to identify the sender. This service will > be necessary to decrypt mail unless the two correspondents > previously exchanged their keys privately. Second, the Postal > Service will maintain a server to manage a public register of > public-key certificates accessible off the Internet, Raines said. > The Postal Service will conduct market studies to gauge demand > before deciding how much individuals must pay to obtain someone > else's public key certificate. In addition, the Postal Service will > sell for less than a dollar an electronic date-time stamp to prove > the existence of a message in a particular point in time. > "We're taking the same attributes of hard copy that make them > legally binding and transferring them to electronic > correspondence," Raines said. > The Postal Service is working with several companies, including > Premenos Corp., to develop the necessary software, Raines said. The > user agent and interface specifications for designing software to > interface with the Postal Service's server, however, are available > free to any one willing to sign a licensing agreement, Raines said. > Regardless of how such arrangements work themselves out, the Postal > Service intends to operate this business on a nonprofit, > self-supported basis. "We don't intend to have first-class mail > supporting Internet mail," Raines said. > Back to Current Issue ______________________________________________________ Jared Armstrong Anchorage, Alaska, USA Last Free Place On Earth jared(a)alaska.net http://www.alaska.net/~jared For PGP Key, Send E-Mail With Subject:Get PGP Key ______________________________________________________ PGP Key ID E2B22AD1 PGP Fingerprint 38 C7 58 C0 C3 10 E0 9D 51 B2 F4 FA 76 04 47 87 ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ - --- Reply to: news(a)aen.org * Origin: AEN NEWS Internet Gateway (1:231/110.1) ------- End of Forwarded Message

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Re: key for Alice as promised (not)
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Wed, 22 Nov 1995 anonymous-remailer(a)shell.portal.com wrote: > > As an incentive for Alice to generate herself a PGP key, I hereby > > place Alice on notice that if she doesn't sign her next post, and > > provide a PGP key, I will create one for her, and steal all the > > postive (?) reputation that she has developed so far. Positive reputation?? Me?? Uhhm, thanks, I guess. > > You have 24 hours Alice, otherwise a key gets posted to here, and to > > the keyservers with your nym on it. > > Well 24 hours have passed, and Alice remains unrepentant: Can you imagine?? I'm simply not willing to fool myself into thinking that I ahve security by posting a key and using PGP. I think that's irresponsible. Unless, I have a secure machine dedicated to PGP *which I don't* I don't fool myself into thinking that I have any security, at all. > On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, the old Alice de 'nonymous wrote: > > > Alice here ... > > > > No, *I* am the real Alice, and I refuse to use PGP signing. Yep ... that's right. > So here we go Alice's key: > > Type bits/keyID Date User ID > pub 1024/23292ED1 1995/11/22 Alice de 'nonymous <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> > Key fingerprint = CA 76 81 41 54 CE E7 D6 62 EE 6D 65 EE FB A3 55 Gee, it might even help if you got the address right. Since when is the list address, my address?? cypherpunks(a)toad.com?? Alice de 'nonymous ... ...just another one of those... P.S. This post is in the public domain. C. S. U. M. O. C. L. U. N. E.

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Cypherpunks article in The Nando Times
by ahupp＠primenet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Check out http://www.nando.net/newsroom/ntn/info//101095/info446_33.html Its an article about the cypherpunks, mostly bullshit and hyperbole. I especially liked the parts about "Larry Detweiler" and this quote from Jim Kallston, of the FBI: "We're not trying to stop technology," Kallston said. "We're trying to collect information on criminals and terrorists and child pornographers." What happened to the fourth horseman Jim? -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQBtAzCNppQAAAEDALhWZl7IuGZ9zZT5bACo0b/1L0Nv0C72vKHIO3IHh+cwpHHa 2Ozb9aeO0UvXGwkkZIYgUm0EvmzKh7yb1GTLvBp5kXpR3I9w+Yj4LGlBDERpUWw6 x4ED49pwDnz1Hl5FBQAFEbQYYXNoIDxhaHVwcEBwcmltZW5ldC5jb20+ =PtJK -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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SAC_lam
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

11-25-95. Washrag: "Hacking Away at the Internet's Web. Security Concerns Grow as Saboteurs Target On-Line Sites." Computer hackers are turning their unwelcome attentions to the World Wide Web. Web sites are among the easiest places on the Internet to disrupt and sabotage, experts say, in part because many of the people who set up such displays pay little attention to security. Such unprotected systems located outside of a secure network are often called "sacrificial lambs," noted a manager at Trusted Information Systems Inc. SAC_lam (8 kb)

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NOF_uss
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Science, Nov 17, 1995: "Security Schemes Aspire to No Fuss System Protection." Because of the painful trade offs between security and usability that come with current protective measures, computer scientists have heen investigating new ways to detect and ward off intruders that present fewer obstacles to users and administrators. Two of the most intriguing directions announced at the Baltimore security conference were reported by researchers at Purdue University's Computer Operations, Audit, and Security Technology laboratory (COAST). The first was an attempt to harness techniques from artificial intelligence to detect intrusions; the second, a pilot test of what has been called software forensics -- an effort to recognize malign programs by identifying the fingerprints of their creators. NOF_uss (15 kb)

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Learning Elliptic Curves
by norm＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I have found an easy introduction to elliptic curves. It is "Rational Points on Elliptic Curves" by Joseph H. Silverman & John Tate. (Springer-Verlag ISBN: 0-387-97825-9 or 3-540-97825-9) It is a breezy undergraduate introduction. It emphasizes the mathematical elegance. It mentions crypto applications but does not delve deeply. Schneier recommends "Elliptic Curve Public Key Cryptosystems" by Alfred J. Menezes. (Kluwer Academic Publishers ISBN: 0-7923-9368-6) That book has only a very compressed theory section which already requires knowledge of field theory. I think that the first book is a good intro to the second, which does cover crypto applications. What I learned is that elliptic curves are an alternative to finite fields for crpto purposes. Here is what they have in common: There are many (2^70 -- 2^2000) values any one of which can be represented in the machine in constant space. a_i is the ith one of these values. If someone sends you a_i it is real hard to figure out what i is. There is an operation that isn't too expensive for computing a_(i+j) given a_i and a_j. For some big integer i you can compute a_i in about (log i)^3 steps. For RSA, knowing how to do these two computations does not reveal what the period of the sequence is, i.e. what is the first i such that a_0 = a_i. Knowing the period is tantamount to knowing the private key.

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PGP Distribution Site at MIT *DOWN*
by jis＠mit.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The anonymous FTP server running on net-dist.mit.edu (which is also bitsy.mit.edu) is currently down due to a failure of the disk drive that hosts the files. We expect to replace the disk this afternoon (Saturday) and begin restoral operational as soon as the new disk is cabled up. We apologize for the inconvenience and hope to have full service restored shortly. -Jeff -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMLdruMUtR20Nv5BtAQELyAP/ekj4hTskW7rEqW5lTidmE67yjqxDWlj0 ahCYBpGOHyE6SRmoCNpjAyHkTu0As1rfdcyZOziDdlHkYWgyxPu3yjrQ9J5yvpM7 V+Q2EWSHHePjlXx9oyHa6FwkgwUkwTAQpuZBC9fu9Jp0HxPs7a6JC+6WSAJi342J EDGnqFtxTp8= =+MsK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: MIT Distribution Site (FTP) for PGP and Other Products *DOWN*
by jis＠mit.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article <jis-2511951419240001(a)road-warrior.mit.edu>, jis(a)mit.edu (Jeffrey I. Schiller) wrote: > The anonymous FTP server running on net-dist.mit.edu (which is also > bitsy.mit.edu) is currently down due to a failure of the disk drive > that hosts the files. We expect to replace the disk this afternoon > (Saturday) and begin restoral operational as soon as the new disk > is cabled up. Service is now restored (on a new disk). -Jeff -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMLeu8sUtR20Nv5BtAQGQGgP8CCm6SJdkxNAv125clOeWq/3VEFMBGgx7 GTpZIKcZutWSqBbC8ATUDoyqcIURR+xEUvKxegktauYkS+fdfHnqsD84OnA1lG2X 4bOwO8G9zA2Uy93lcVrM4WrAYE1J4hseiuhFK6T4kGbHek91ZU/dY5xGjgo+3Wrm FeYXRwfujJY= =hAXB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Gingrich, "crypto coalition" & dysfunctional philosophy
by jimbell＠pacifier.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The detweiler tentacle is afraid to debate me... >To: "Vladimir Z. Nuri" <vznuri(a)netcom.com> >From: jimbell(a)pacifier.com (jim bell) >Subject: Re: Gingrich, "crypto coalition" & dysfunctional philosophy > >>well, I don't really care about convincing anarchists that you're >>a bozo. it's reasonable people who it would scare me if they began >>to take you seriously. > >Then start being "scared." I guess you have lots of practice. > >> frankly I'm not convinced that anyone with >>half a brain is taking you seriously. > >I don't have to convince you of anything! You wimped out! You claimed that you would be happy to debate me IN PUBLIC! Well, I did and you ran away with you tail between your legs! > >Stop being a wuss! If you're as correct as you claim you are, you have no reason to fear. Debate, dammit! >

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