December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: GAK, Netscape, CyberDog, and you.
by Rich Salz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bob, Please stop this habit of cross-posting to every mailing list; 999 times out of a thousand the resultant discussion helps neither list. And my god, five lists this time, at least some of which have over a thousand readers? NB: Followups redirected. /r$

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McCain on the radio, 9/22
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Sen. McCain is scheduled to be a guest on the Diane Rehm show, Monday 9/22 10:00-11:00, 88.5 (in DC) or 88.1 (in Balto). This show is carried elsewhere in the country, so I'm cc:ing cypherpunks. - Carl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNCKTuVQXJENzYr45AQGhgAP9EtpiDkBvUDp85cdvbX3dvQXSDBvbwte1 K0gGxWscycNWnTbrpSZVRZ/ud/rm4GY/oiUS5lZbebwfsvAejyihUPWKxK1FTaz9 dE3Zm9TLdn9hzZdK0X2PhUPsHCsymZtmVB+N5zrd1m7QAptM6vX+aOBHWAwWZBie lh8KTIV3TJk= =XizX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Carl M. Ellison cme(a)cybercash.com http://www.clark.net/pub/cme | |CyberCash, Inc. http://www.cybercash.com/ | |207 Grindall Street PGP 2.6.2: 61E2DE7FCB9D7984E9C8048BA63221A2 | |Baltimore MD 21230-4103 T:(410) 727-4288 F:(410)727-4293 | +------------------------------------------------------------------+

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John Gage's comments at Computer Security Day in Cleveland
by fc＠all.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Gave gave an interesting pitch for Java at the CSSI Computer Security Day sessions in Cl;evelan yesterday (November 30). Among his comments were: Java is not secure - it is "safe" He (John Gage) regularly downloads binary executables from the Internet and runs them on his workstation at Sun - (connected to the internal Sun network). Sun has terrible physical security - unknown people roam the halls at night all by themselves. In 2 years, you will be able to buy a computer that does more than a Sparc now does, in a portable package the size of a cell phone, with more than 30 million bits per second of mobile bandwidth direct to the Internet, for less than $30. -> See: Info-Sec Heaven at URL http://all.net/ Management Analytics - 216-686-0090 - PO Box 1480, Hudson, OH 44236

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Re: Getting a copy of the Jim Clark speech
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:38 AM 12/1/95 +0600, Ed Carp wrote: >The only problem with this approach is that this will bite other >browsers that have started supporting the so-called "Netscape >extensions". More than one person has coded the Netscape stuff into >their pages because it gives the author more flexibility than the >standard 1.0/2.0 standards. And there aren't many browsers out there >yet that support 3.0. http://www.netmanage.com/ have a free browser that supposedly supports 3.0 -- I have not tested it yet, though I downloaded it a short while ago. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: ALERT: On Monday, call Congress to stop Big Brother amendment!
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 02:47 PM 9/18/97 -0400, you wrote: >3. Say that you're calling to urge the Congressman to pass SAFE (HR695) > without amendments. Does that mean Goodlatte's original bill, or the bill as amended already by the National Security Subcommittee? I believe you should be more specific in your instructions -- suggesting that people ask for the bill to be voted against unless it is exactly as it was prior to the Natl Sec involvement. ..or, assuming it's going to be amended and we can't stop that, ask people to ask for a vote against the bill -- not for it. I'm worried that the person on the phone will check the box under "vote for" and not puzzle out the amendment level. If bills changed number when amended, this wouldn't be such a problem -- but as it is, I really worry. - Carl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNCKoDVQXJENzYr45AQEYwAQAh3Z5IDymS1G44qi1B0HdlVEAtmZHwhum 4KrINQpJW/pX37QCiiAklLpsvkBP2MAvGTB5HMfhBTdwzWqXfDZ6ZS2WTem3HIti CYrNvenIhfwQpAmzspCjTo6rXgExxKF96d++AescmmWUJRcA5LkqwI7HeBZkq4qb EcxDhF6SYkk= =AEyU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Carl M. Ellison cme(a)cybercash.com http://www.clark.net/pub/cme | |CyberCash, Inc. http://www.cybercash.com/ | |207 Grindall Street PGP 2.6.2: 61E2DE7FCB9D7984E9C8048BA63221A2 | |Baltimore MD 21230-4103 T:(410) 727-4288 F:(410)727-4293 | +------------------------------------------------------------------+

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NSC Announce
by wiltship＠iccu6.ipswich.gil.com.au 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thought this might be of interest.... From: ipSecure <ipsecure(a)ipower.nsc.com> Subject: iPower home page/CryptoSampler announcement Date: Fri, 01 Dec 95 15:53:55 PDT For Immediate Release Contact: National Semiconductor Lori Sinton (408) 721-2448 lori(a)ipower.nsc.com http://www.ipsecure.com CryptoSampler, from National Semiconductor, Demonstrates Ease of Building Secure Electronic Commerce and Communications Applications Company's iPower(tm) Business Unit Launches Free CryptoSolver to Inaugurate New Web Site SANTA CLARA, Calif., November 27, 1995 --- National Semiconductor Corporation today announced the availability of its CryptoSampler package for applications developers interested in gaining a "hands on" understanding of how cryptography solves modern business problems. Developed by National's iPower Business Unit, the program consists of three demonstration applications and the PersonaCard(tm) 100, a hardware token for personal, portable data security. The package contains both the demonstration applications including "build-it- yourself" tools to integrate security easily into electronic commerce and communications applications. Priced at $129, the CryptoSampler package is available to the first 1,000 U. S. respondents and can be ordered directly from National's iPower Business Unit. In a related move, the company's iPower Business Unit launched its own web site along with CryptoSolver, an interactive game that invites participants to solve encrypted messages based on the concepts of substitution ciphers and the alphabetic frequency table. CryptoSolver, a technology-teaser game rates players' deciphering skills and can be downloaded from iPower's new web site free. "As networks become the lifeblood of corporations and the principal means of commerce, securing electronic transactions and proprietary information over public and private networks is absolutely critical," said Tom Rowley, marketing director for National's iPower Business Unit. "Through this program, we hope to help broaden individual's understanding of how modern security technology can solve real problems on the Internet and in Electronic Commerce business applications," Rowley explained. CryptoSampler Package - Token Plus Three Applications in One ------------------------------------------------------------ The CryptoSampler package consists of a PersonaCard 100 data security token, a floppy disk containing all three demonstration applications, a cryptography primer written by recognized cryptography expert Bruce Schneier, and a questionnaire. Customers who choose to complete and return the questionnaire, will receive a free copy, while supplies last, of Bruce Schneier's newly-released book, Applied Cryptography, second edition. o PersonaScreen(tm) System Lockout Utility is a screen locker that prevents unauthorized entry into a personal computer by locking the keyboard and mouse. The PersonaCard Token, implemented in the PC Card (formerly PCMCIA) Type II format, locks and unlocks the desktop computer. o PersonaSecure(tm) Word Utility enables users to sign, seal (encrypt, decrypt), and verify documents as well as e-mail messages from within Microsoft Word 6.0 for Windows. Installed automatically, PersonaSecure displays a toolbar that corresponds to the functions of National's PersonaCard data security token. The hardware token incorporates RSA's industry-standard digital signature and encryption formats which are now "token aware." In addition to protecting and validating Microsoft Word documents, users can encrypt and decrypt e-mail messages with others who have installed the PersonaSecure Word Utility. o PersonaDLL Library for Visual BASIC 3.0 is a Dynamic Link Library (DLL) of routines that enables developers to quickly and easily develop their own applications incorporating high-level data security features. PersonaDLL includes a Visual BASIC application, Visual BASIC source code, and access to all of the features of the PersonaCard 100 token including digital signatures, RSA key generation, encryption, and verification. System requirements to run the CryptoSampler package are: Microsoft Windows 3.X, Windows for Workgroups 3.X, and a PC Card slot (version 2.1 or later). Microsoft Word 6.0 is required for the PersonaSecure Word Utility. Pricing and Availability ------------------------ The CryptoSampler package is available with or without a PC Card Reader. For those who plan to run CryptoSampler applications on a desktop or portable personal computer already equipped with a PC Card slot, the basic package is offered at a special price of $129 (including handling and shipping). A CryptoSampler package with PC Card reader is available for $199. The total retail value of the basic package and configuration with card reader is $300 and $500, respectively. To order the CryptoSampler package in either configuration, call 1-800-272-9959 Ext# 631 between the hours of 7 AM and 7 PM Central Standard Time. To play CryptoSolver and for more information about the CryptoSampler program, see the iPower web site at http://www.ipsecure.com . iPower Security Solutions ------------------------- Introduced a year ago, iPower technology provides the highest-level of commercially available security in a personal, portable hardware token. iPower solutions are already being incorporated by OEMs, ISVs, and VARs into a variety of applications and hardware platforms including e-mail and messaging, electronic commerce, network security, and secure access to on-line services including the Internet. National Semiconductor Corporation provides technologies for moving and shaping information. The company focuses on four key areas - communications, consumer, industrial, and personal systems. National Semiconductor is headquartered in Santa Clara, California, and has 22,300 employees worldwide. -30- Note to Editors: To receive a CryptoSampler package for review, call or e-mail Lori Sinton, 408 721-2448 or sampler(a)ipower.nsc.com iPower and PersonaCard are trademarks of National Semiconductor Corporation. All other trademarks are held by their respective companies Flight to Quality Wiltshire Productions Pty Ltd Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Intl Voice 61 7 3376 3535 Intl Fax 61 7 3279 4027 Email wiltship(a)gil.com.au PGP Key ID 3E584C7D PGP Fingerprint 01 03 FB F4 BE F8 2B F3 5D 84 6B 69 37 80 FE 10

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The Ultimate Non-MLM Home Based Business:..
by 47173936＠11641.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Talking to Jim
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 2 Dec 1995, PeterWiltshire wrote: > Gidday all > > I emailed Jim Clark day before yesterday about his comments re key escrow. Uhhm, what is his email address?? I'd love to ask him one or two questions, not just about key escrow, but about Netscape's future prospects and its current stock valuation. (Netscape now has a market capitalization larger than Apple Computer.) > He responded. As it's not good form to post private email, might I suggest > that one of the 'elders' here put to Jim a list of questions on the proviso > that his answers can be posted to the list. You never know, a lot of > speculation might be confirmed or denied. I've got some questions ... Mathew Ingram, reported in the Investment Reporter that Jim has stock holdings currently worth more than $1 Billion in Netscape, and yet Jim was quoted as saying at a recent technology conference "you could argue there's something of an Internet bubble developing." The article also quoted him as saying that if Netscape made a profit in the next year or two it would only be "because we miscalculated." Miscalculated?? I'll say. If he thinks that GAK will go down with great support, when they want to split their stock, then they're really not quite aware of the mind of the organization that they'll be up against. I wonder what people will have to say about Netscape, then. Right now, brokerage firm Hambrecht & Quist is estimating that in five years the Internet will be a $23 Billion market -- equal to the size of the _entire_ software industry today. And a money manager at Franklin Resources Inc. said, "some people are suggesting the big tech company in the next century could be Netscape." Personally, I don't think so. But then who am I?? Goldman Sachs just put Netscape on its "recommended" list. And some analyst called Michael Parekh was quoted as saying that Netscape could hit $200 in the next two years. That it was going to be the Microsoft of the Internet -- dominating the software side of the World Wide Web. I wonder if Parekh's valuation is a pre or post stock split evaluation. Shoot, if Parekh is talking about $200 post-split ... then Netscape could well become a really big league play in this game far sooner than most people think. I'd love to hear how this fits with Jim's words of a "bubble". The market seems to "think" that it's a better present judge of what Netscape has than he does. It's almost as though the "market" has developed a "mind" of its own. It's own particular neural network. It doesn't seem like the market is paying attention to any of Jim's warnings or words. His "opinion" -- like all corporate officers opinions are strongly discounted and very lightly weighted. It's almost as though there is automated software at work. Some people might think about going short against the box on this one. Although the article talked about a short "squeeze" which would generally mean that this stock is going to go nowhere but up as the short sellers try to cover, personally, I might start to take some money off the table and not add anything to my position. But all this depends on the depth of someone's pockets, I guess. And on some serious trading analysis. Then again, there is that old adage about never fighting the tape. It's compared frequently to whizzing into the wind, I think. Probabilities and such. (Disclaimer: This is not intended as and should not be considerred as investment advice ... or for that matter as whizzing advice, either.) I'd love to hear Jim talk some more about this. For me, all of this Netscape stuff is getting way too surreal. It seems really strange. Some people are arguing that things are getting out of hand, and yet it seems like this one is completely out of Jim's control. No one is listening to ANYTHING from Netscape at all. The market is simply listening to its own internal dialogue. And that certainly is a surprise to this writer. It's a surprise to me, and it's probably a surprise to Netscape. Finance 501 is more complex than Finance 101. Maybe they should read up about the privatization of BP and the involvement of the KIO. Or learn a bit about Li Ka-Shing, or something which adds to their knowledge base. That might give some idea about what is actually going on here. (Not that the Kuwaiti Investment Office or Li-Ka Shing has an interest in this one.) Alice de 'nonymous ... ...just another one of those... P.S. This post is in the public domain. C. S. U. M. O. C. L. U. N. E.

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SHU_tup
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

12-2-95. NYPiper: "Accord Reached For Limiting Smut on Internet." Page One lead. Bowing to a seemingly unstoppable push in Congress to keep sexual material off the Internet, a coalition of commercial on-line services and some civil liberties groups agreed today to accept a number of restrictions they had opposed a few months ago. "Terrorism Bill Plan May Break Deadlock." Tiny article. In a bid to salvage a stalled antiterrorism bill, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee has agreed to the demands of conservative Republicans to remove proposals expanding the Government's wiretapping authority. SHU_tup (10 kb)

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Re: sooner or later
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Bill Stewart wrote: >At 10:45 PM 9/18/97 -0700, Wei Dai wrote: >>Many of us believe that a crypto ban is inevitable. The only >>question for us is whether it'll happen sooner or later. Seen in >>this perspective, all that industry and civil liberties lobbies can >>do is delay the ban. But is this necessarily a good thing? >Yes. Later is bad, but sooner is worse. First of all, "Soon" means >"We lost already", while "Later" means "We haven't lost yet, even >though it looks pretty much like we're going to lose later,... Even if we lose a battle legislatively tomorrow, this does not mean we have "lost". In practice, people can still write code and distribute it, the same way people are still making LSD, growing mushrooms, or growing marijuana. Code propagates easily which means that so long as there is any place in the world where it can be safely used, it will be. Even if it is illegal throughout the world, there are going to be places where the local administrators are too corrupt or incompetent to really enforce the law. (The law is more or less impossible to enforce anyway because you have to charge people with possession of random data.) This means that somebody will be using the stuff, and the New Renaissance will still happen, but the benefits will have to propagate back into the United States for a change. The greatest risk is of a major government going "ape" over this issue and randomly persecuting those they suspect of doing illegal arithmetic without real evidence or real trials. The passing of a law may mitigate this because they will feel as if they are doing something, even if the "problem" was not entirely solved. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNCKgi5aWtjSmRH/5AQF5Bgf/UWVTAU8Mk4g8QMX7ya1OnMPbbQvH14wE Lq2Lr+FKYYjQLRTH3UYMPjl+mxXJWhnIxGrK6SNSE3kh+InRpzX1jPtGBpYVXq/9 fr1YgkzjUilcN5dHRxwAO4ciwFmTu0ZCHORhk90DcnwQOBdckXN5ykjGZ3CTGEQA IXrhnV6sK3Ovuxe73WSuaZ+lOUPCMs4SVvnKIeWb4JWy0L3j4YwsmYu0aVVqNAeg Kd2sXYqaBxnitXFg+KTppcW16k9AqSMbFK5+Go3dIM1wZOI8kJKBTE9+Iw6u/zff tvZGXJWGRHB4e4VRf+OAttaP7Aalqx83AHMXe6WhhDUFqXJ7WmhkQw== =UOyl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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