December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Different Ways Polly Klaas Could Have Been Killed
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Different Ways Polly Klaas Could Have Been Killed: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5.

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Different Ways to Kill AOL Members
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Different Ways to Kill AOL Members: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5.

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Re: More on House Intelligence committee amendment on crypto
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:38 PM 9/11/97 -0700, Declan McCullagh wrote: >So I'm reading through the 43-page amendment to SAFE that the House >Intelligence committee approved today. It includes: > >* Ban on sale of crypto without a backdoor. Five year & fine (maybe >$250,000?) if violated. Prosecutions can be held in closed-door >courtrooms, publishers of info about case to be held in contempt of court. Does the bill retain the 5 years first offense, 10 years second offense provisions for using crypto in the comission of a crime? Let's see: Lucky sells five copies of PGP. That's 5+(5+4*10)=50 years in prison. Or is it (5*5)+(5+4*10)=70 years? Doesn't make much of a difference at my age, I suppose. --Lucky Green <shamrock(a)netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. DES is dead! Please join in breaking RC5-56. http://rc5.distributed.net/

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Re: Different Ways to Kill AOL Members
by Syniker＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Subj: Different Ways to Kill AOL Members Date: 97-09-12 01:05:58 EDT From: remailer(a)bureau42.ml.org (bureau42 Anonymous Remailer) Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)Algebra.COM To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Different Ways to Kill AOL Members: 1. Just thrust your head and shoulders thru their bedroom window :):) 2. 3. 4. 5.

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Docs in Bernstein converted to HTML
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've converted two of the newer documents in _Bernstein v. Dept of State_ into HTML; but I'd appreciate it if someone felt like proofreading/comparing them to the original images, it's late and my eyes are tired. Judge Patel's Order of 9/9/97, staying some of the injunctive relief: HTML at <http://www.parrhesia.com/bernstein/stay.html> image at <http://www.eff.org/pub/Legal/Cases/Bernstein_v_DoS/Legal/970909_stay_order. images/index.html> Declaration of William Reinsch in support of emergency motion for total stay: HTML at <http://www.parrhesia.com/bernstein/reinsch.html> image at <http://www.eff.org/pub/Legal/Cases/Bernstein_v_DoS/Legal/970910_reinsch_dec l.images/index.html> -- Greg Broiles | US crypto export control policy in a nutshell: gbroiles(a)netbox.com | http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | Export jobs, not crypto. |

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More on House Intelligence committee amendment on crypto
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

So I'm reading through the 43-page amendment to SAFE that the House Intelligence committee approved today. It includes: * Ban on sale of crypto without a backdoor. Five year & fine (maybe $250,000?) if violated. Prosecutions can be held in closed-door courtrooms, publishers of info about case to be held in contempt of court. * Federal government computer purchases must use key escrow "immediate decryption" after 1998. Same with network established w/Federal funds. * Such products can be labeled "authorized for sale to U.S. government" * U.S. government may "not mandate the use of encryption standards" for the private sector * Export decisions aren't subject to judicial review * Defense & Commerce have controls of exports of crypto * Establishes Encryption Industry and Information Security Board * Internet providers, key recovery centers aren't liable if they turn over keys following legal standards * President can negotiate int'l agreements, perhaps punish noncompliant governments I'm still reading... More details shortly... -Declan

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Information Please
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am interested in researching possible legal grounds for taking armed action against politicians governments and law enforcement agencies. I would appreciate any pointers anyone might be able to provide to any material of this nature. Of particular interest would be information as to the application of International law in this area. I am assuming of course that there must be some form of law somewhere which recognizes the right to resist oppression and violation of human rights by any government elected or not. Thank you. ps If possible I would like to receive this information before September 16th 1997 as it is a two day drive to southern California and I would like at least one day to rest.

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No Subject
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It is quite probable that this has been said before. In case it hasn't, however, I feel compelled to point out that mandatory key escrow/recovery could likely mean an economic disaster of unimaginable proportions. Okay, key escrow, whether by the goobermint or a contracted third-party, is beginning to scare the living crap out of me. Okay, let's assume that the ammended SAFE passes and is promptly signed into law(despite what the administration says, I don't think anyone believes for a second that it would be signed without hesitation). It's a simple matter for the Commerce Dept. to modify their review criteria to specify that the key escrow/recovery feature be enabled and that the end user not be able to disable it. This obviously doesn't affect anyone who can get their hands on the source and comment out a line or two, but think about what happens with big corporations, especially financial ones. It's highly likely that a good number of them will use crypto software just the way Big Brother would like them to, happily sending their keys off so that our friends in Washington can keep them nice and safe. Now think about this: You're Joe Random Govt. Worker at the official secret key repository, and there's a budget crisis going on - instead of paychecks, you're getting I.O.U.'s. Your terminal has access to thousands, perhaps millions, of secret keys. You grab one of CitiBank's, forge a few transactions, and 30 seconds later your Swiss bank account is a few million dollars fatter and according to the digital signature, the transaction originated in L.A.. Of course, one doesn't even have to be an underpaid govt. worker to join in on the fun. Just find a buffer overflow in the key repository's daemon software and trick it into tacking on a few secret keys with its "Big Brother thanks you for your cooperation." packet. Considering that even the CIA can't keep their severs secure, why should ANYONE, even thouse naive enough to trust the govt. to respect their privacy, ever trust such a corrupt and insecure organization with their encyption keys. Along the same lines, it's almost certain that someone is eventually going to fat-finger some code and keys are going to get sent in the clear, posted publicly, or something equally bad - with the government running the "key management infastructure", it'll probably be a 12 year old kid who got bored with Minesweeper who causes the global economic collapse.

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Re: Taxless society concerns
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Warpy wrote: > First off. In such a society, who cares for the old, the sick, and the > infirm? How is such care going to be payed for? How will basic services be > maintained without the necessary taxes required to pay for them? Haven't you ever heard of ZPG? The problem with Medicare is that the taxpayers are paying to keep the old people alive, no matter how close to death they are!! Then, on top of that, we give them free money! Come on people, we already have nigh 6 billion people on this planet, I think we can stand to lose anybody over 65. > But the question remains. In such a taxless society, and little or no > government, how are those less fortunate than us going to be cared for? As for the less fortunate, welcome to Evolution 101: Survival of the Fittest, where fit means good education, good job, and enough money to giev your kids the same. -- Run.exe * Value Your Privacy? The Government Doesn't. Say 'No' to Key Escrow! * Adopt Your Legislator - http://www.crypto.com/adopt "If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith." -- Albert Einstein runexe(a)ntplx.net http://www.ntplx.net/~runexe/ PGP encrypted mail prefered

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3% to Freedom
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Just heard a Canadian MP state that he was voting in favour of gun registration because 52% of his constituents were in favor of it. Killing 3% of the people to save the rights of 48% of them seems like a fair trade-off to me. We could kill them with hammers until we killed enough that they passed hammer registration laws. Then we could switch to scissors. Then forks. Then rocks. Of course, it would be impossible to bust all the people who were in possession of unregisterd rocks in their yards, so they would probably have to use selective enforcement against just blacks and longhairs and the like. Am I ready to run for public office, or do I need to get stupider? If so, then I propose that we start killing people by filling their mouths with dirt, then we can pass dirt registration laws. Then we can kill people by filling their lungs with air until they burst and we can pass air registration laws. Then we can leave people out in the sun until they die and pass sun registration laws. "The reason I pulled you over, guys, is because the sun came up. Unless one of you cops to possessing it, I'm going to have to take you all in." Am I stupid enough to be a cop, now? If not, then we can kill people by taking them to the roofs of buildings and throwing them to the ground. Then we can pass roof and ground registration laws. "Hey, pal. Your feet are on the ground. You got a permit?" "Sorry pal, this permit is for a different piece of ground. I'm going to have to take you in. And, since the sun is out, you're going to get an extra five years for possession of the sun in the commission of a crime."

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