December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Financial Services Technology Consortium
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A friend found this... Cheers, Bob Hettinga --- begin forwarded text Bob: I was looking for a web site for Shawmut/Fleet Bank and could not find one. But I did come across this which I thought might be of particular interest to you... http://www.llnl.gov/fstc/index.html It is the Financial Services Technology Consortium (FSTC), which is a consortium of financial services providers, national laboratories, universities, and government agencies who sponsor and participate in non-competitive collaborative research and development on interbank technical projects. Cheers, Will --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Shipwright Development Corporation, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA (617) 323-7923 "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell >>>>Phree Phil: Email: zldf(a)clark.net http://www.netresponse.com/zldf <<<<<

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Re: ASCII unabomber paper attribution and FTP address (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: lmccarth(a)cs.umass.edu (L. McCarthy) > Subject: Re: ASCII unabomber paper attribution and FTP address > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 15:10:48 -0400 (EDT) > > Actually it's: > > ftp://ftp.ai.mit.edu/pub/users/misc/unabomber > > It isn't as of 4:28 Central...:( Anyone got a clue as to where it has flow to? Jim

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Re: Encryption algorithms used in PrivaSoft (fwd)
by lmccarth＠cs.umass.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Confirming suspicions that PrivaSoft is a security-through-obscurity outfit: > From: David Clavadetscher <clav(a)deltanet.com> > Subject: Re: Encryption algorithms used in PrivaSoft > > Dear L., > > At this time our crypto engine is patented and proprietary. If you tell me > the intent of your interest I will see what other information we can provide > to you. Call me if you like. [...]

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My Day
by iagoldbe＠csclub.uwaterloo.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well, my brain's pretty frazzled about now (and I still have a pretty dense paper on xFS to read and summarize for 9am tomorrow for my OS class) from all the press that's gone after me today. The ones I wrote down (I believe sameer wanted a list; I have names and numbers for some of these, too, bt it was pretty hectic: get off the phone, go to my terminal, note that I have 20 new mail messages from people wanting interviews or info, and answer the phone because it's ringing again.): NY Times WS Journal SF Chronicle CNN (camera crew) Marketplace (NPR) SF Examiner Kansas City Star Chronicle of Higher Education Boston Globe Newsweek (or WiReD; it was Steven Levy) and at least half a dozen more. Not to mention the job offers, one call that I couldn't decipher (it sounded like one of those AI's that you see roaming the net every so often, only on the phone), and email in French (je suis canadien, but I was still amazed I could understand it). Sorry for the blathering, but that's how I feel just now. BTW: the line we tended to stress was "public availability of source to at least the security bits", but who knows how it will come out? Holger.Reif(a)PrakInf.TU-Ilmenau.DE (Holger Reif ) was kind enough to verify that the SunOS 4.1.3 version of Netscape generates its keys in _exactly_ the same way as Solaris and HP-UX; he says he'll test other architectures tomorrow. I suspect any big-endian machine with the lrand48() function (which is used in key generation on Solaris/HP-UX; it's disguised in unssl.c as the macro mklcpr()) will be the same. Other Unix flavours should require only minor changes. I'm still interested in what Windoze clients do (other than lose). - Ian "So how _did_ Netscape's stock do today?"

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Re: [NOISE] Unabomber - crypto-anarchist?!?
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

My almost-namesake Sherry Mayo wrote: >Found this quote from the Electronic Telegraph, the online version of >a UK daily newspaper. (world news section, Weds 20th Sept) >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et/access?ac=116192744309&pg=//95/9/20/wunab20.h… > >"Editors forced to print manifesto of Unabomber > >By Charles Laurence in New York > >...The heart of his argument is that industrial society has led to ways of >life for which people are fundamentally unsuited. He calls for a >crypto-anarchic revolution and a new order based on small, village-style >units." >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >Uh? Crypto-anarchic? Surely he's not one of ours? ;-) ;-) ;-) I've read a good chunks of FR's work at http://www.ai.mit.edu/misc/unabomber and have to say he is making some very interesting and incisive arguments, not all of which I disagree with. But I also searched the text for mention of "crypto" and only came up with the fairly standard usage of "crypto leftist." My assumption then is that the meme of crypto anarchy has spread to the writer at that UK newspaper (I wonder if Brian Arthur has been talking to them?) and that he interpret's FR's screed in terms of crypto anarchy? Still, his writing style and some of his points seem close enough to some of my own points, not to mention his Northern California nexus and estimated age, that I'm expecting more inquiries (I deflected one already). After the call from the Sheriff's office about my alleged activities, I wonder.... --Tim May ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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FUCK! how do i unregister from toad.com or the 2 other server ?%
by Martin M 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am tired, i am registered to 3 cypherpunks server and tired or receiving 40-50 new message each day! Please someone reply! Martin mgmicro(a)usa.net

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MacRandoms
by W. Kinney 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

OK, to get my implementation of Colin's randpool code for the Macintosh, ftp://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu/pub/cypherpunks/randomness/MacRandoms.sea.hqx As a bonus, this also includes a nice 68K assembler implementation of MD5. Enjoy. -- Will

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Re: Is Diana News?
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Tim May wrote: > There have been a bunch of messages about this. Some satirical, some > serious. I've avoided any comment (so far as I remember). > But is it news? > I think so. > Not necessarily for Cypherpunks.... > This story involves many interesting issues--freedom of speech, > rights of privacy, the accomplishments of Diana, the issue Toto > raised that Diana is surely a better role model than Diane > (Feinstein), the monarchy, the boycott of tabloids, etc. I would go farther than Tim on this one. We Cypherpunks should concern ourselves with the means traditionally and currently used to maintain social order. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNBDBdZaWtjSmRH/5AQFAyAf7BiWyU/BzDkRJoAZL+S98szVEXsFVss2Q qimTXmUnWfVlkEu+4NSOmRNxFsb/DkyI3drRPw0RSyBRsw56tkXpQVccQ24yTEsD Db2CwObWm7lEKwiogQ05a+ywRfLnFKBm3ZARuQXT+dj5Zm/erjxJlRIHj8fxJDZY VmYfJFT0B+cSjjruAQMdP0hgR5ZJPKo9o2NcRUJUDoiCoLBbqP1gk5brJgFfOwiv KhcOaAjEMuk2W9RIMKr8gwr62zEA399CpVleVyiK7EWyEiMRQQluCYlqzP4B4M6c +HmSIx+lhPPsSrsFtSdXbfI8cbHDNC414n7hXcXoqK7E8p4l/BsQ0Q== =Lzw0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Cypherpunks Press release
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 4:28 PM 9/20/95, Dietrich J. Kappe wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >We've seen the word "hacker" kicked around rather arbitrarily in the press. >Are we to conclude that the cypherpunks are a bunch of hackers? I think its >time for some cypherpunks spin. How about a logo *and* a press release? The >press release would give contacts (email, phone, etc.) so that someone on >this list would be contacted by journalists when a crypto story breaks. > >If we get enough volunteers, we can fax blanket every newspaper, station, >and network in the world. I was of course being facetious about the putative "Cypherpunks logo." Sorry I did not insert smileys. The problem with the "Cypherpunks press release" notion is this: -- we are an effective anarchy. -- there is no "spokespunk" and no foreseeable way of choosing one. Some people seem to _want_ some kind of central contact organization or point, some place to lobby, buy advertising, send faxes, give press conferences, etc. But I don't see it happening. Individuals and their organizations are free of course to do as they wish, but if they claim to speak for "the Cypherpunks," they'll be out of line. We are not a direct democracy, nor even are we a representative democracy. No board of directors, etc. While this undeniably affects how "messages" get out, that's life. There are plenty of organizations with Washington offices, and with spokesmen available for comment. But they don't have what we have. --Tim May ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: RSA Prevails In Arbitration Against Cylink
by Erik E. Fair 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is there electronic copy of the Arbitration Panel's precise ruling available? No quicker way to end the PR confusion than to read the Real Thing(tm). Erik

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