December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

how to release code if the programmer is a target for coercion (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: how to release code if the programmer is a target for coercion > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:41:16 EST > From: Ryan Lackey <rdl(a)mit.edu> > Tim May brought this issue up recently -- if someone develops a greatest- > thing-since-sliced-bread Eternity package, then releases it. it's pretty > likely that they will eventually be approached by (mi6/mossad/CIA/KCIA/etc.). > > What's likely to happen? > > Certainly they could kill you. They could make it look like random street > crime, or an accident, or kill you with #16 000 in your pocket just to make > it clear what their reasons were (Gerald Bull, Mossad, London, .32acp). Actualy they killed Bull before he could complete his Super-Gun design and get it built. There is no point to be had in killing the designer after the fact except to advertise their accomplishment except to prevent future work by that person. > More likely, they'd try to coerce you. This could include threats of death, > which are best responded to by ignoring them, since they don't gain anything > if they kill you. Or torture, which is equally ineffective if they kill you. > Or slander/etc. to try to discredit you. (unlikely to work at least among > cypherpunks, in the absence of technical attacks as well). This seems to have worked with several of the programmers at The L0pht (l0pht.com) because of their legal problems. Seems they now do work for the DoJ and other groups in return the various charges that were pending against them were dropped (or at least put on hold). > Most likely, they would try to buy you. This could be by outright offering > money for back doors, which would be great if it worked, but is unlikely to > happen in the first place. L0phtCrack is one of the major NT cracking/testing tools currently used by folks. And no, I am not implying it has been compromised only pointing out that because of the relationship of some of the programmers to law enforcement it could have been. I am not aware of the exact timing of the agreement, development, and release of the software. > If offered a bribe, you could go public with > that fact (preferably after taking the money :), Then everyone would want proof and if you couldn't produce it they would simply label you a nutcase. You probably would have mysterious accident after that sort of behaviour. Besides, even if you were to prove it - could you trust the witness protection process? > I was looking around for a solution to this -- Lenny Foner at the MIT > Media lab has something for his agents project which might be a solution. > A system by which sections of source code are verified by individuals, > signed, other sections are verified by others, etc. Then, during If the agents could infiltrate the development team what keeps them from mounting a mitm attack on the people doing the signing? ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: (eternity) Covert Superhighway - the missing component? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:41:53 GMT > From: Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> > Subject: Re: (eternity) Covert Superhighway - the missing component? > - post to random newsgroups, use textual mimic functions, send > decryption keys after the stegoed data has been distributed to > disguise data until it is too late to affect distribution Isn't this going to increase latency and increase the likelihood of both sureptitious attacks (I notice the request in newsgroup A and begin putting my mitm requests in the other newsgroups - the odds being that I will get the data and then forward to the original recipient with small changes) as well as must plain missing the request? > - become a spammer, or employ some spammers. Spammers use the hit and > run approach with disposable accounts; with sufficient availability > of accounts, and the economic incentive they seem to flourish in > spite of intense displeasure of recipients. Be shure to pay with cash and use an anonymous name and address. Considering the cost of accounts this could be quite expensive. Many services do provide the first 2 weeks free or similar features. I predict that should this model be put into practice at a very broad level the ISP's won't give the free trial-periods to anonymous accounts. > - video signals: live porn shows, one on one "chat live to our model, > she will do anything you ask, blah, blah" -- high volume, easy > target for stego, plausible reasons for anonymity Is this going to be a live model or a VR relicant? If it is a live model then it should be relatively trivial to determine that persons identification and location. Another question that comes up is how many strippers are going to participate in this if they know the consequences? It's one thing to spend the night or a few weeks in the tank, a whole nother thing to spend years in there. > - subliminal channels in the TCP/IP and IPSEC protocols. Someone > posted a reference for an implementation of some subliminal channels > in the linux TCP/IP stack. These still have to show up in the actual packets and are open to sniffer attacks. Also, the individual packets can be traced from router to router. Lot's of blind alleys but you'll get there eventualy. > When people can buy a T1 to their house for £2,000/yr instead of > £20,000, we will stand a better chance. SWBT will currently sell T1 access to homes for as little as $214/mo. Would you settle for $2,568/yr.? Note that this price doesn't include routing and name resolution. I'm still (3 months later) trying to get SWBT to tell me how much they will charge for this - they supposedly offer it but I have yet to find an actual business office that support home delivery of service. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Cellular fountain of youth found [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > SCIENTISTS DISCOVER CELLULAR 'FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH' > > Cell/slide Adding the telomerase enzyme keeps cells alive and > dividing In this story: > * Enzyme helps cells avoid aging, death > * Stock in biotech company skyrockets > * Telomeres grow back > * 'It will totally transform genetic engineering' > * Related stories and sites > > January 13, 1998 > Web posted at: 8:55 p.m. EST (0155 GMT) > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Researchers at the University of Texas > Southwestern Medical Center say they have discovered a cellular > "fountain of youth" that enables human cells to avoid normal aging > and cell death. > > The finding won't make people any younger or allow them to live > forever, but the researchers say it could keep them healthier > longer. [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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17 Dec '03

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REMAILERS: please cut down on mccain + tea
by Antonomasia 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Crypto Kong penetration.
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-- 2 Since release there have been a very large number of hits on the Kong documents, and mere 102 downloads of the program, and 74 downloads of the source code. The large number of source code downloads indicates that I am only reaching the crypto techie audience, that for the most part is already able to use PGP, not the non tech audience that Crypto Kong was designed for. On my web page I have documentation as to how business users can and should use this product. (See the section "contracts and certificates" <http://www.jim.com/jamesd/Kong> I and Mather Cromer have prepared a release document targeted at business users (See below) Does anyone have any suggestion of how to get the message in front of the target audience? (press release oriented towards businessmen follows: -- Announcing Crypto Kong. Free digital signatures and encryption. <http://www.jim.com/jamesd/Kong/Kong.htm>. Many businessmen use a faxed signature for a contract, or for authority to act, or worse still, a shared password, as stockbrokers often do. This is almost worthless. The signature on a fax can be, and often is, a mere bitmap, not genuinely scanned in from a signature written in ink on a paper document, but merely applied digitally to an image in computer memory. If that bitmap was also applied to some other document sent to the same company, which it usually was, then the fax proves nothing. On the other hand, often one cannot wait for FedEx to deliver signed documents. The answer is digital signatures and encryption. With digitally-signed electronic documents, you can send unforgeable signed documents instantaneously across the globe. Crypto Kong is easy to use and it uses the same identity model that as businesses today use for ordinary handwritten signatures, unlike other products which impose their own different way of handling identity. Crypto Kong takes away the hassles of certificate management, public key authentication, and complicated operating instructions. Anyone can immediately use it to sign documents, to compare signatures or to encrypt sensitive messages. Kong compares the signatures on documents, rather than comparing a signature against certificates. Crypto Kong software makes it easy to send or receive digitally signed documents or use top grade encryption to keep messages private. Crypto Kong provides support for contracts and the documentation that accompanies transactions. The Crypto Kong application and detailed documentation information is available as a free download from the Kong home page: Kong is compatible only with Windows 95 and Windows NT. Complete source code is also available for download from the home page. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG SgQ8pgY/MeQpI9CfGR5kSsRdW61mSVYtqHkEMoMU 47jSLQPPmYxhaKH9MyohUU9Q9i3bzVWjwey/s3Od4 --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG gME+6HSq3N3G1iw88pJyVqcNc8dlMZhS2f+zUijA 4IpLFuTI1zY7tEU4+gDAFM6uhgcWP9IyA/3guXt7j 4WRob8mo+81LCLSyU4RiPNOilXHZTlyvZzsFMr+9d --------------------------------------------------------------------- We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this right, not from the arbitrary power of the state. http://www.jim.com/jamesd/

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Re: cypherpunks and guns
by Crisavec 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

All I'm saying is that not EVERYONE who collects a government paycheck has "diminished mental capacity" I know several people with genius level IQ's that simply don't care where they work....And that's something to remember... >> > >> >The fact that they collect a paycheck from the government is prima facie >> >evidence of diminished mental capacity. >> >> Don't bet on.... >> >> >> There is only one war, and it's not between the whites and the >> blacks, Labour and the Conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, or >> the Federation and the Romulans, it's between those of us who aren't >> complete idiots and those of us who are. >> >> >Who's side are you on? > > --Dave ************************************************************************ * There is a theory which states that if anyone ever discovers * * exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will * * instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more * * bizarre and inexplicable. * * * * There is another theory which states that this has already happened. * * * * "The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy." * ************************************************************************

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